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40 Armageddon
Armageddon
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Bruce Willis and and an all-star cast of roughneck oil drillers blast off on a mission to save the planet in Michael Bay's doomsday space epic.
DIRECTOR-APPROVED DOUBLE DISC SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
DISC ONE: THE MOVIE
- The exclusive director’s cut, containing previously unseen footage, in a new digital transfer personally supervised by Michael Bay
- Discrete 5.1 channel Dolby® Digital soundtrack
- Two commentary tracks: One featuring Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer, Bruce Willis, and Ben Affleck; the second featuring cinematographer John Schwartzman, NASA consultant Dr. Joe Allen, and asteroid consultant Ivan Bekey
- Subtitles for the deaf and hearing impaired
- Optimal image quality: RSDL dual-layer edition
DISC TWO: SUPPLEMENTS
- Michael Bay’s gag reel
- Deleted scenes compiled by Michael Bay
- Storyboards and production design drawings
- Analyses of the special effects by visual effects supervisors Richard Hoover, Pat McClung, and Hoyt Yeatman
- Production designer Michael White on the look of Armageddon
- Trailer, teaser, and television spots
- The Aerosmith music video “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing,” plus interviews with band members
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Bruce Willis and and an all-star cast of roughneck oil drillers blast off on a mission to save the planet in Michael Bay's doomsday space epic.
DIRECTOR-APPROVED DOUBLE DISC SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
DISC ONE: THE MOVIE
- The exclusive director’s cut, containing previously unseen footage, in a new digital transfer personally supervised by Michael Bay
- Discrete 5.1 channel Dolby® Digital soundtrack
- Two commentary tracks: One featuring Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer, Bruce Willis, and Ben Affleck; the second featuring cinematographer John Schwartzman, NASA consultant Dr. Joe Allen, and asteroid consultant Ivan Bekey
- Subtitles for the deaf and hearing impaired
- Optimal image quality: RSDL dual-layer edition
DISC TWO: SUPPLEMENTS
- Michael Bay’s gag reel
- Deleted scenes compiled by Michael Bay
- Storyboards and production design drawings
- Analyses of the special effects by visual effects supervisors Richard Hoover, Pat McClung, and Hoyt Yeatman
- Production designer Michael White on the look of Armageddon
- Trailer, teaser, and television spots
- The Aerosmith music video “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing,” plus interviews with band members
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- daniel p
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May seem like a strange question, but is this in a double width or single width case? The reason I ask is, it features the 'old style' criterion font on the front cover - but I have most of the first lot of releases, and none with this 'old style' are double width. Can't picture the spine in double width. Can someone feed my curiosity so I don't have to buy the damn thing for myself?
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Well, here's the single-alpha version. I know the old ezboard noted that this disc used to be a double-alpha and is now a single, but I don't know if that info was ever replicated here (the ezboard section was called "Printings and Versions"; if anyone knows how to get into the old ezboard site i think the info is here but I can't load the page.
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No, Armageddon isn't the best film ever, in the collection, hell it's not even in the top 500, but you have to say one thing... It does have style, and that's why it's in the collection. Michael Bay, has a style to his films... A blockbuster style, if you will... and that's why the Criterion Collection holds this film... Because it has it's own style.... Michael Bay has his own style... Try looking at it that way.
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- Gordon
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Sales from this title must have paid for so many pet projects at Criterion and many much-loved SEs. I love the fact that it and The Rock are in the collection. But how pretentious is it for a filmmaker to insist that his films are released by Criterion. If that is what Bay did. Wes Anderson, too. Can any filmmaker make this request?
Criterion are worth a bundle now. The profits are huge, no doubt. A digitally restored, hi-def transfer of The Browning Version with extras?! And it has sold about 40 copies so far, I bet. I asked Mulvaney about this and he said that he isn't at liberty to discuss sales and profits. One too many Browning Versions and we'll be seeing more Armageddons in the collection, you can bet your butt on that.
Criterion are worth a bundle now. The profits are huge, no doubt. A digitally restored, hi-def transfer of The Browning Version with extras?! And it has sold about 40 copies so far, I bet. I asked Mulvaney about this and he said that he isn't at liberty to discuss sales and profits. One too many Browning Versions and we'll be seeing more Armageddons in the collection, you can bet your butt on that.
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A few years ago there was a hilarious piece about Bay's movies in Film Comment where the author called Armageddon Bay's masterpiece because it had the balls to go so far over-the-top than any other film he's done. He also said it fit in a loose-knit trilogy -- The Girl in the Control Room.
If I can find it, I'll dig it up.
If I can find it, I'll dig it up.
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Absolutely. It's the Scream of disaster movies - both ripping the piss out of itself, and still delivering all the thrills and spills one expects from the genre. Bay goes way, way, way overboard, and it's fantastic. The Rock is so po-faced and charmless in comparison. The attempts at building characters felt terribly forced, as if all involved were aiming for Higher Things, while still throwing in a bunch of dull stereotypes for cheap laughs anyway (the camp hairdresser, for example) - in Armageddon, characters are defined by their quips, as it should be.
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After a few years of my friends telling me that Armageddon was a total blue-collar wet dream and that I should see it, I finally did on September 10, 2001. After sitting through 14 hours of who-needs-to-do-what talking and yelling head television the following day, I watched it for a second time and it was as much of a blast as the first time and I've enjoyed it the dozen times I've seen it since. And I ain't no give 'em hell flag-waving yipper. Tho I do work at NASA.
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So just to make sure I understand, Michael Bay and Armageddon have style, right? Also, the only reason Criterion can justify including this film within their holy collection of films is that the DVD for the movie is a cash-cow that subsidizes other "artistic masterpieces" and "under-appreciated gems". Correct? I'm just so glad we're clearing up these confusing issues.
Anyone else find it funny that the word "pretentious" is being used here?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure any filmmaker can make this request... and then it's up to Criterion do decide if they want to produce the DVD or not.Gordon wrote:But how pretentious is it for a filmmaker to insist that his films are released by Criterion. If that is what Bay did. Wes Anderson, too. Can any filmmaker make this request?
Anyone else find it funny that the word "pretentious" is being used here?
Sounds good.McMurphy wrote:One too many Browning Versions and we'll be seeing more Armageddons in the collection, you can bet your butt on that.
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Yeah, I'll get right on that.Gordon McMurphy wrote: Andre, dry yer eyes, would ya?
Gordon McMurphy wrote:I acknowledge my pretentiousness. I love it.
That's sad.
Good luck with that.Gordon McMurphy wrote:You will be silent now.
Narshty wrote:Absolutely. It's the Scream of disaster movies - both ripping the piss out of itself, and still delivering all the thrills and spills one expects from the genre.
You know Narsh, I've heard you state this before, but I still don't see it. The movie is over-the-top, but it certainly isn't as overtly self-aware as Scream, where it's painfully obvious for any audience member. I doubt very many viewers see Armageddon as having a laugh at its own expense, or at the expense of its genre.
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Well, I have to justify my irrational love for this great lurching toxic monster of a film somehow. "It rocks" failed to cut it beforehand. Watch it (or as much as you can bear to) again - it's fascinating how Steve Buscemi and Peter Stormare seem to be the only ones who realise what kind of picture they're in.Andre Jurieu wrote:Narshty wrote:Absolutely. It's the Scream of disaster movies - both ripping the piss out of itself, and still delivering all the thrills and spills one expects from the genre.
You know Narsh, I've heard you state this before, but I still don't see it. The movie is over-the-top, but it certainly isn't as overtly self-aware as Scream, where it's painfully obvious for any audience member. I doubt very many viewers see Armageddon as having a laugh at its own expense, or at the expense of its genre.
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No they don't, and I remain unconvinced that this was Bay's intention in the first place. If it was perhaps he should have cast Leslie Nielsen in the Willis role to get his point across?Andrei wrote:Narshty wrote:Absolutely. It's the Scream of disaster movies - both ripping the piss out of itself, and still delivering all the thrills and spills one expects from the genre.
You know Narsh, I've heard you state this before, but I still don't see it. The movie is over-the-top, but it certainly isn't as overtly self-aware as Scream, where it's painfully obvious for any audience member. I doubt very many viewers see Armageddon as having a laugh at its own expense, or at the expense of its genre.
I agree with Narshty (about The Rock as well). And I like Con Air for the same reasons as well.