115 Rififi

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eerik
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Re: 115 Rififi

#26 Post by eerik » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:03 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:Hhhhmmm, how will this compare to the Arrow release, PQ wise.? I own the Arrow release which is solid, do I double dip?
Most likely the same Gaumont master.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#27 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:23 pm

eerik wrote:
FrauBlucher wrote:Hhhhmmm, how will this compare to the Arrow release, PQ wise.? I own the Arrow release which is solid, do I double dip?
Most likely the same Gaumont master.
If you have the Arrow, I'd stick with it. I doubt they'd do a better job, and I like the dual artwork on Arrow's reissue.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#28 Post by MichaelB » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:43 am

eerik wrote:
FrauBlucher wrote:Hhhhmmm, how will this compare to the Arrow release, PQ wise.? I own the Arrow release which is solid, do I double dip?
Most likely the same Gaumont master.
A racing certainty, I'd say. We know Criterion use Gaumont masters elsewhere, and this is one of their good ones!
Which means that it'll almost certainly look gorgeous, but there's very little point double-dipping.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#29 Post by tenia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:11 am

The question should be : which Gaumont master will Criterion use ? We know that Arrow used the non-degrained one when Gaumont used the degrained one, with a visibly different result.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#30 Post by MichaelB » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:58 am

One of the most basic things a conscientious DVD/BD producer needs to do is examine rival editions with the proverbial fine-tooth comb. It's pretty much inconceivable that Criterion won't have done this, so they'll be more than aware that there's a good degrained master out there.

(I haven't seen it since it was released, but I daresay the Arrow still looks pretty stunning - back then, it was a benchmark for an HD presentation of a black-and-white film from the 1950s.)

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Re: 115 Rififi

#31 Post by eerik » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:59 am

tenia wrote:The question should be : which Gaumont master will Criterion use ? We know that Arrow used the non-degrained one when Gaumont used the degrained one, with a visibly different result.
Gaumont's own Blu-ray has a bit poorer compression, more tinkering. Doesn't mean that there's another master.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#32 Post by tenia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:14 am

eerik wrote:Gaumont's own Blu-ray has a bit poorer compression, more tinkering. Doesn't mean that there's another master.
Oh, don't worry, it was confirmed that Gaumont used at the time to do 2 restored masters : one degrained, one non-degrained. So you just needed to add 2+2 to understand what happened. I'm also quite sure it has been confirmed by Gaumont themselves who used what on Rififi.


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Re: 115 Rififi

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Re: 115 Rififi

#35 Post by manicsounds » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:17 pm

Is it just me or are none of the DVDBeaver screencaps for that review available?

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Re: 115 Rififi

#36 Post by chatterjees » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:18 pm

They are not showing up on my screen too.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#37 Post by Lowry_Sam » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:55 pm

They show up fine for me (using Firefox), but they do take a bit to load, looks like big file sizes.

The Criterion is the only one that shows the full telegram message, but it is a bit darker than the other 2. I think I'll keep my Arrow edition.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#38 Post by Sandman » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:46 pm

I had no problem, but the images did load slower than usual.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#39 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:29 am

I'm leaning towards picking up the CC even though I have the Arrow. I almost always prefer CC's contrast levels, along with more info in the frame make this more likely to be a get for me.

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Re: 115 Rififi

#40 Post by manicsounds » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:20 am

OK, for some reason they were not coming up through my hotel WiFi, but now I can see. Still very surprised Criterion opted not to include more extras than their old DVD, Arrow is clearly superior with extras.

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