340 Koko: A Talking Gorilla

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340 Koko: A Talking Gorilla

#1 Post by mmacklem » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:41 pm

Koko: A Talking Gorilla

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In 1977, acclaimed director Barbet Schroeder and cinematographer Nestor Almendros entered the universe of the world's most famous primate to create the captivating documentary Koko: A Talking Gorilla. The film introduces us to Koko soon after she was brought from the San Francisco Zoo to Stanford University by Dr. Penny Patterson for a controversial experiment—she would be taught the basics of human communication through American Sign Language. An entertaining, troubling, and still relevant documentary, Koko: A Talking Gorilla sheds light on the ongoing ethical and philosophical debates over the individual rights of animals and brings us face-to-face with an amazing gorilla caught in the middle.

Special Features

-New, restored digital transfer supervised and approved by director Barbet Schroeder
-New video interview with Schroeder
-Alternate French-language audio track with optional English subtitles
-Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
-PLUS: A new essay by author Gary Indiana and an homage to Koko from Marguerite Duras

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#2 Post by What A Disgrace » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:48 pm

Beat me by a minute.

I spent that minute looking at the cover art, trying to figure out if I was awake or dreaming.

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#3 Post by Jean-Luc Garbo » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:19 pm

Wow, way to follow up those last two Barbet Schroeder films, Criterion. I would have expected something like this to be on Home Vision were they still around.

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#4 Post by Narshty » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:13 pm

When I saw the title, I thought another cult schlocker might have escaped the Eclipse pen, but now the overwhelming thought on my mind is: Eh?

To be fair, I can imagine it'll be a very engaging, interesting film, but it seems like the sort of thing one might happen to watch on TV one evening - a Horizon special or something. It just seems like a rather C-list selection - a little-known documentary on a rather obscure topic by a not-especially distinguished director.

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#5 Post by Matt » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:20 pm

Grumbling has been moved to the Criterion 2006 thread. If you want to complain about the quality of titles being announced, you know where to stick it.

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#7 Post by FilmFanSea » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:36 pm

Koko's Official Website

Unfortunately, the natural DVD supplement to this film would have been the 1999 PBS Nature documentary, A Conversation with Koko, but it's already been released on DVD (and I doubt PBS would license it out).

Also see this article which details the bizarre sexual discrimination lawsuit filed by two female former employees of the Gorilla Foundation, who alleged that they had been required to bare their breasts to Koko (who is female, BTW). The lawsuit was dismissed last December.

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#8 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:54 pm

I'm looking forward to seeing this.

I haven't seen this since elementary school, and I actually remember liking it, but then again, I was 7.

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#9 Post by edgarnazaretian » Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:16 am

weirdest thing about these two dvds being announced...i had a dream last night where i was at the criterion page and i saw the new titles announced and they were all random films...dont know the titles...i just remember thinking "wtf"? no offense to the movies, just never heard of them

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#10 Post by cdnchris » Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:02 pm

Now I'm going to express some disappointment. In all honesty I've found Koko to be quite fascinating ever since I was young and I know there's a lot of stuff out there on the subject so I figured with this release there'd be prime-pickings for supplements. But alas, just a Schroeder interview and an alternate French track I won't listen to.

Ah well, at least it's a cheaper one. I've actually become more fascinated with this film after reading more about it and I'd really like to see it now. Plus my wife wants it, so it doesn't feel like too much of a gamble.

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#11 Post by backstreetsbackalright » Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:28 pm

and an homage to Koko from Marguerite Duras
Hot!

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#12 Post by skuhn8 » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:37 pm

Couldn't they dig up something to clue us in on what the monkey's been up to the past 25 years?

I'm definitely intrigued, never knew about this documentary, though wouldn't be surprised if I've seen it without being aware that it was Barbet's as I definitely would never switch the channel on Koko.

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#13 Post by cdnchris » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:43 pm

skuhn8 wrote:Couldn't they dig up something to clue us in on what the monkey's been up to the past 25 years?
Exactly. Other than dying and losing a baby (which she apparently expressed being depressed about--or was it a cat??) I know nothing else about what she's been up to and I thought a supplement like that would be great (though, true, the interview might mention something, or at least the booklet, but still...)

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#14 Post by oldsheperd » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:49 pm

What about Cheetah the monkey from the Tarzan films. he just celebrated his 75th. I must sat, though this is a much wlecome surpise, surprisingly out of nowhere. The only thing I can compare this release to in the collection is with For All Mankind since that was originally a National Geograhic.

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#15 Post by Buttery Jeb » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:56 pm

I, too, was hoping for a "Koko on Koko" featurette on this one. I'd think anyone watching this would be interested on her thoughts from back during the making of the film.

As it stands, I had a jones to rent this a few weeks ago, and my current all-DVD rental place informed me it wasn't out. I was convinced HVE put it out with "More." Oh well, at least it's coming now.

-BJ

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#16 Post by Andre Jurieu » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:27 pm

edgarnazaretian wrote: no offense to the movies, just never heard of them
I can maybe understand not having heard of KoKo, since it's a bit older, but you've seriously never heard of Yi Yi despite the enormous amount of praise it has received since its release? That makes me sad.

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#17 Post by The Invunche » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:28 pm

Everytime Andre gets sad an angel masturbates.

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#18 Post by Andre Jurieu » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:35 pm

The Invunche wrote:Everytime Andre gets sad an angel masturbates.
Wow. Angels have remarkable self-control? I wonder if it's a sin in heaven, or whether "guilty" angels just fly around smashing into one another?

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#19 Post by jcelwin » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:14 pm

Perhaps we can start a new topic:
Anyone up for some cattiness about criterionforum.org?

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#20 Post by bunuelian » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:16 pm

I look forward to seeing this much more than I look forward to seeing Andre masturbate. Or wait, I don't see that on the supplements list - am I misisng something? *rocks back and forth*

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#21 Post by Andre Jurieu » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:05 pm

jcelwin wrote:Perhaps we can start a new topic:
Anyone up for some cattiness about criterionforum.org?
That didn't take long.
bunuelian wrote:I look forward to seeing this much more than I look forward to seeing Andre masturbate.
That's angels masturbating, not me.

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#22 Post by daniel p » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:44 pm


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#23 Post by souvenir » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:23 pm

DVD Beaver review is up and, surprisingly, it appears this release is not progressive and has combing issues. This would certainly be disappointing.

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#24 Post by Gordon » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:36 pm

DVD Beaver is timing out, as of 23:00 GMT.

A non-progressive Criterion transfer is 2006 is disturbing. First Midnight Cowboy, now this.

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#25 Post by HerrSchreck » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:23 am

What struck me is that Gary stated that this is the first purely nonprogressive CC dvd, which is incorrect. Off the top of my head NANOOK & HAXAN are both interlaced transfers.

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