977 Blue Velvet

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#26 Post by tenia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:56 am

IIRC, the lost footage was already restored on the MGM BD.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#27 Post by Guido » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:58 am

The MGM blu does not include the feature-length documentary by Peter Braatz, which seems to be a pretty major addition here.
More than just an 86-minute expansion of his previous documentary, Blue Velvet Revisited is a subjective meditation on the mood of the shoot in North Carolina in the autumn of 1985, an uncanny recreation of little moments in time that would have otherwise been forgotten, and a sort of non-narrative visual essay/tone poem that complements Lynch’s original vision while delivering an ethereal vibe all its own.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#28 Post by EddieLarkin » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:17 am

tenia wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:56 am
IIRC, the lost footage was already restored on the MGM BD.
And to a far higher quality than the main feature.

Which is the real advantage of the Criterion, that the film itself is no longer sourced from a 13 year old HD master.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#29 Post by tenia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:54 am

It is finer, while the movie looks softer with a coarser tamer grain, but it's not that far away. The HD master for Blue Velvet is getting old and dated, but it remains pretty much OK, though on the softer side (and with a it of dust and a bit of wobble at times). Sure, some of the deleted scenes have a more pronounced fine grain, but many are not that far from the main feature, quality wise.
However, I do believe the new 4K restoration will mark a noticeable bump in PQ.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#30 Post by Finch » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:40 pm

The colours in the 4k resto are lovely. I'll grab this after all (never owned Blue Velvet on BD).

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#31 Post by whaleallright » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:33 pm

In the booklet accompanying this release, Criterion's editors have mistakenly indicated that the film was shot in "Wilmington[, Delaware]" when in fact it was shot in Wilmington, North Carolina. Oopsie-daisy!

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#32 Post by dustybooks » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:23 pm

There goes our only hipster cred.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#33 Post by whaleallright » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:36 pm

You still have Dawson's Creek!

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#34 Post by dustybooks » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:45 am

True, and... (spotted while shopping last week)

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Back on topic: my friend lived in the apartment building prominently featured in Blue Velvet for about a year. It remains eerie and very poorly maintained!

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#35 Post by whaleallright » Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:18 pm

I was wondering, does the building that serves as the Beaumont hardware store still stand? If so, what's in it now?

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#36 Post by dustybooks » Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:29 pm

The building is still there, totally repainted, on the corner of Castle and Front streets near the Cape Fear Bridge. It most recently was a tiny grocer and farmer’s market but as of last week when I was nearby it appeared to be empty.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#37 Post by Roger Ryan » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:50 pm

The new Criterion transfer does, indeed, look wonderful and is a definite improvement over the MGM Blu-ray.

Interestingly, two of the fade-outs on the new release have been significantly extended/slowed (the one following the wide shot of the police combing through the vacant lot, and the one which concludes the wide shot of Jeffrey and Sandy as they take their night-walk). I imagine this must have been done at Lynch's request and is a bit revisionist; the quicker fades, as they appeared on the previous home video editions, were definitely present in the original release (I saw the film three times theatrically in '86/'87 and remember the abruptness of these transitions). I'm not complaining as I think the slower fades work much better. Also (again, for the first time I believe), the semi-transparent marks which appeared near the center of the image throughout the opening montage have been digitally removed (I'm pretty certain these were inadvertent artifacts created by the optical process used for the series of dissolves in the sequence).

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#38 Post by konoyaro » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:03 pm

In the scene where Dorothy finds Jeffrey hiding in the closet and is soon after is visited by Frank. I sometimes see two red discs on the carpet, to the left of the upholstered chair and in front of the couch.

These discs seem to disappear a couple times but also seem to designate a spot where action in the scene is supposed to occur.

Are these camera markers that didn't get edited out or are they something else?

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#39 Post by Roger Ryan » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:30 pm

konoyaro wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:03 pm
...Are these camera markers that didn't get edited out or are they something else?
They could be foot markers for the actors to hit in tighter shots (necessary to keep a clean focus and tight composition). It's fairly common even on larger budget films for the markers (often tape arranged in a "T" formation) to be inadvertently left on the floor (and visible) in wide or master shots. Then again, I believe that is the exact spot on the floor where the chair is placed that Rossellini sits in during her first scene with Hopper. They could very well be placement markers for that chair.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#40 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:15 pm

And in a weird way it sort of works within the film's narrative, because one could see Hopper's character being so particular about his... day to day rituals... that he would insist upon the chair being placed in the exact same spot each time. So even if it's an accident that we can see them, it's a happy accident.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#41 Post by nitin » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:02 pm

Is it on the MGM disc too?

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#42 Post by Roger Ryan » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:38 pm

nitin wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:02 pm
Is it on the MGM disc too?
Yes, the "discs" were on the floor of the set during filming, so they've always been there. In reviewing the scenes taking place in Dorothy's apartment, I now realize the chair is not placed on or near the discs. The shiny red discs strike me as an intended part of the set design. There are many examples throughout the film (per usual with Lynch's work) of little decor touches that the director himself crafted (the odd shrunken-head mask that hangs on Jeffrey's bedroom wall; the mountain range tableaux that rests on the front counter of the police station). My guess is that the shiny red discs were something Lynch felt needed to be a part of the flooring in the apartment set. Also, since nearly two hours of footage was cut from the initial rough edit, it's possible the presence of the discs were explained in a deleted scene.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#43 Post by ford » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:08 pm

A 4k UHD disc seems inevitable so I’m sitting out the Criterion edition. Am I wrong?

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#44 Post by zedz » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:05 pm

Just finished going through this disc, and 'Blue Velvet Revisited' is really bad. A smattering of interview insights and some poorly shot standard EPK footage stretched out to excruciating feature length by pretending to be an experimental film. If you cut the meat out of this, you might get a decent ten minute featurette of interview extracts playing over a slideshow of stills.

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Re: 977 Blue Velvet

#45 Post by Leo K. » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:56 am

zedz wrote:Just finished going through this disc, and 'Blue Velvet Revisited' is really bad. A smattering of interview insights and some poorly shot standard EPK footage stretched out to excruciating feature length by pretending to be an experimental film. If you cut the meat out of this, you might get a decent ten minute featurette of interview extracts playing over a slideshow of stills.
Thank you for the thoughts on this - I was worried about that and will hang on to what I already have on the MGM Blu.

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