453 Chungking Express

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Re: 453 Chungking Express

#26 Post by Matt » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:44 pm

Cold Bishop wrote:I'd wait for the Blu-Ray.
Aren't the DVD and Blu-ray coming out on the same day?

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#27 Post by Cold Bishop » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:48 pm

Aha, I just saw that the Blu-Ray page has been updated. So yes.

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#28 Post by nostalghic » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:13 am

What a beautiful cover. I'd look great in a fold-out pack like the single disc edition of Sansho the Balliff. But whichever way, I can't wait. :)

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#29 Post by Matt » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:57 am

Welcome new folks. We discuss Criterion cover art in one thread and one thread only. This one.

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#30 Post by royalton » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:29 am

ARRR! Why didn't I wait?! Why. didn't. I. WAIT??

Sadly I don't think waiting will be an issue for the film of my namesake.

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#31 Post by Cde. » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:22 am

Hopefully Criterion complement this disc with Fallen Angels somewhere down the line.

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#32 Post by Mr Sausage » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:40 am

Cde. wrote:Hopefully Criterion complement this disc with Fallen Angels somewhere down the line.
Chungking Express comes along and everyone forgets the rules? Random speculation/wishing goes here.

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#33 Post by Darth Lavender » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:37 pm

Cde. wrote:Hopefully Criterion complement this disc with Fallen Angels somewhere down the line.
That's already been announced (some time ago) as Kino's debut blu-ray release.

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#34 Post by Stefan Andersson » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:21 am

Will this be one of the Doyle/Wong-approved HD-based transfers already out in Asia?

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#35 Post by funkcisco » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:39 pm

I love the film. But 40 bucks for a single disc with this little extras is overpriced.

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#36 Post by kaujot » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:42 pm

funkcisco wrote:I love the film. But 40 bucks for a single disc with this little extras is overpriced.
All Criterions (with the odd exception here and there, like Clean, Shaven) with a commentary are upper-tier priced.

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#37 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:49 pm

And if the movie is good enough (like Green for Danger, for example) it's usually worth the upper-tier price despite the fact that it only has one disc.

I'd take only one disc and a scholar's commentary over two discs with no commentary any day.

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#38 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:49 am

Cronenfly wrote:Well, Wong's certainly made his mark on the tech specs; I haven't heard of the movie being shown in any other ratio than 1.85:1 until now (the recent R3 Alto DVD release, which I thought was a restoration/new transfer straight from Jet Tone, was 1.85:1, not the CC "director's requested" 1.66:1).
The Criterion/Rolling Thunder LD was 1.66:1 (mistakenly labeled as 1.85:1), as was the original UK DVD from ICA. The old Ocean Shores disc had a weird AR of around 1.50:1. Somebody at the WKW forums supposedly asked Wong (or Doyle, can't remember which) about the AR and was told they went for 1.66:1 during shooting, but that it didn't look too bad at 1.85:1 either. Unfortunately that post seems to have been lost to the ages, so you'll have to take my word on that.

The question to ask now: does this mean Fallen Angels and Happy Together (and possibly even the pre-CE films) should be 1.66:1 as well? Like you, I thought the remastered versions were as "official" as we were ever going to get, but evidently that isn't the case.

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#39 Post by godardslave » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:53 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:I'd take only one disc and a scholar's commentary over two discs with no commentary any day.
Whereas I, on the other hand, dislike commentaries and would rather see a 2nd disc packed full of interesting extras like interviews and documentarys.

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#40 Post by domino harvey » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:04 pm

Guys, star-bellied sneetches are far superior

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#41 Post by Matt » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:22 pm

The Chungking Express transfer is Christopher Doyle-approved.

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#42 Post by Perkins Cobb » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:07 am

Curtis Tsui wrote:The prospect of producing “yet another disc” of writer/director Wong Kar-wai’s 1994 effervescent pop cinema classic was a little daunting . . . . What else could be done or said with this new presentation?
Exactly what I'm still wondering, Curtis:
Curtis Tsui wrote:Doyle did request some changes . . . . They weren’t anything too major . . .
Although if the "Chris Doyle + A Case of Whiskey + Hidden Camera" featurette had made it on as a special feature, I would concede the necessity of the release.

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#43 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:10 am

Perkins Cobb wrote:
Curtis Tsui wrote:The prospect of producing “yet another disc” of writer/director Wong Kar-wai’s 1994 effervescent pop cinema classic was a little daunting . . . . What else could be done or said with this new presentation?
Exactly what I'm still wondering, Curtis.
Who knows, maybe they'll release it in HD!

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Re: 453 Chungking Express

#44 Post by Gigi M. » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:19 pm

Beaver

The Criterion looks best to my eyes.

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Re: 453 Chungking Express

#45 Post by denti alligator » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:23 pm

Wasn't the Blu-ray supposed to come out the same day? I hope this doesn't mean a delay on the release date.

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Re: 453 Chungking Express

#46 Post by Shrew » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:31 pm

Beaver probably just didn't get a review copy of the Blu-Ray yet.

LooKs nice, though it is weird about the lacK of sharpness. As for the green tinge, it looks more like the Miramax has a red tinge, Criterion-Ozu style.

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#47 Post by Napier » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:39 pm

Agreed, the Criterion also seems best to my eyes. Here's hoping the blu-ray will knock our socks off.

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#48 Post by cdnchris » Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:53 am


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Re: 453 Chungking Express

#49 Post by jojo » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:02 pm

You know, it may be a personal taste, but I'm not a big fan of the softer, brightened image of the Criterion. Perhaps the faded feel is more in line with Doyle's vision, but I'd always liked the darkened, lit-by-neon look of the film. And I think the Artificial Eye version seems to capture this best. I didn't even think the Miramax version was that horrible either.

My biggest problem with the Miramax/AE was the aspect ratio/non-anamorphic issues.

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Re: 453 Chungking Express

#50 Post by Murdoch » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:47 pm

jojo wrote:You know, it may be a personal taste, but I'm not a big fan of the softer, brightened image of the Criterion. Perhaps the faded feel is more in line with Doyle's vision, but I'd always liked the darkened, lit-by-neon look of the film. And I think the Artificial Eye version seems to capture this best. I didn't even think the Miramax version was that horrible either.

My biggest problem with the Miramax/AE was the aspect ratio/non-anamorphic issues.
I'm in this camp as well, but my problem with the Miramax release, outside of the aspect ratio, was that in the last scene of the film some of the subtitles were off so it'll be worth picking this up just to catch a few missed lines of dialogue, it wasn't much but I found it frustrating and with the AE OOP the CC is my best option.

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