It is currently Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:16 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:50 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 pm
Location: Brandywine River
My point, referring also to an earlier post, was that for people hoping to divest themselves of Melvilles that they own and mop up the vast majority of his output 'd'un coup' with this set looks a pretty bleak prospect. That also goes for french speakers requiring HoH subs.


Top
 Profile  
 

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:18 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am
NABOB OF NOWHERE wrote:
That also goes for french speakers requiring HoH subs.


Well, again, Le samourai, Le cercle rouge, L'armée des ombres, Le silence de la mer, Deux hommes dans Manhattan & Quand tu liras cette lettre at least are likely to be repacking of the existing discs and will thus have French SDH.
It also seems that the movies shared by the 2 sets will share their extras (and even the extra DVD).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:51 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 pm
Location: Brandywine River
Specs for the French Melville set have been updated to include French HoH but no English subs.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:31 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am
From a DVD Classik member :
Le silence de la mer: French SDH
Les enfants terribles (awful DVD): No subs
Quand tu liras cette lettre: French SDH + Eng
Bob le flambeur: French SDH + Eng
Deux hommes dans Manhattan: French SDH
Léon Morin, prêtre: French SDH + Eng + German
Le doulos : French SDH + Eng + German
Le samouraï : French SDH
L'armée des ombres: French SDH + Eng + German
Le cercle rouge: French SDH + Eng + German
Un flic: French SDH + Eng + German
24h de la vie d'un clown: French SDH + Eng + German


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:37 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:20 pm
Location: Worthing
That's a very pleasant surprise, which would appear to confirm my suspicions that the overlaps between the French and English boxes contain exactly the same discs. I couldn't see why they wouldn't, given production logistics, but it's nice to be sure.

And since I have the MoC BD of 'Le Silence de la mer', much of 'Deux hommes dans Manhattan' is in English anyway, and 'Le Samouraï' barely has any significant dialogue to speak of (and there's always the Criterion), I think I can order the French box with far more confidence. Many thanks for this.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:40 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:09 pm
Location: Edinburgh, UK
After the snafu with the new Belle de Jour, I've decided to hold on to my BFI disc of Le Cercle Rouge and other Melville releases including the Crit of Army of Shadows until the new SC set has had a few reviews.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:54 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:20 pm
Location: New England
Finch wrote:
After the snafu with the new Belle de Jour...

What snafu? (searching older posts didn't provide an answer)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:01 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:22 am
Location: NYC
Michael Kerpan wrote:
Finch wrote:
After the snafu with the new Belle de Jour...

What snafu? (searching older posts didn't provide an answer)

The only thing I could find was davidhare's comments that the color in the trailer looked wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:15 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 9:37 am
The bluray.com review points this out.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:41 am 

Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:07 am
So has there been any word on whether the French box has the Pathé master of Le Samourai?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:45 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am
Of course it does. There's just no certainty whether it's the first or the second pressing, the 2nd being vaguely less DNRed.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:36 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:20 pm
Location: Worthing
It’s definitely the Pathé disc, and it’s unwatchable. I don’t care whether it’s the first or second pressing: I’m replacing it with the Criterion as soon as I get the chance.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:41 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 pm
Location: Brandywine River
Yes there is no other option. After wittering on about a possible third way after seeing clips from Le Samourai on the Tavernier doc I have now seen the full Melville episode from the TV series which without question references the Pathé in all its abhorrent glory. So humble pie for dinner for me and I guess its the Criterion for everyone else.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:23 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am
It's quite saddenning to see such a renowned movie being so poorly treated, between a FUBARed restoration that seems nowhere close to be redone and an old HD master that shouldn't be perceived as providing such a good quality bump.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:04 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:20 pm
Location: Worthing
I don’t have any regrets about purchasing the French Melville box, not least because it’s far more English-friendly than I was anticipating, but I’d personally recommend that people buy the UK box and pad things out with Le Silence de la mer (MoC), Quand tu liras cette lettre (Gaumont - it’s the same disc in the French Melville box), Two Men in Manhattan (Cohen) and Le Samouraï (Criterion). That way you’ll get English-friendly versions of ten out of thirteen features in the best presentations to date. The other three aren’t available anywhere on BD as far as I’m aware.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:24 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am
Having already most of the individual titles already releases, I'm going to buy the UK boxset myself. I'm just hoping that Le doulos, Bob le flambeur and the newer Léon Morin restoration are properly restored / presented.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group




This site is not affiliated with The Criterion Collection