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Brian C · #301 Post by **Brian C** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:07 pm

Beaver on The English Patient. Commence argument ... now!

The Narrator Returns · #302 Post by **The Narrator Returns** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:09 pm

There's little argument to be had when few people actually care about the film.

American Dad put it best: It looks beautiful, but it takes a very long time for an unsatisfying pay-off.

#303 Post by **swo17** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:12 pm

Is that what passes for a joke on a Seth MacFarlane show? I was going to go with:

ARGUMENT: The English Patient is boring.
COUNTER-ARGUMENT: I agree.

END SCENE

#304 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:43 pm

swo17 wrote:Is that what passes for a joke on a Seth MacFarlane show?

It's no "Obama is a socialist"

#305 Post by **Matt** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:41 pm

Seinfeld wrote:[Elaine and Peterman are watching "The English Patient". Elaine is about to freak out of boredom]
Elaine Benes: [quietly] No. I can't do this any more. I can't. It's too long.
Elaine Benes: [yells] Quit telling your stupid story about the stupid desert, and just die already! DIE!
J. Peterman: [surprised] Elaine, you don't like the movie?
Elaine Benes: [shouts] I hate it!
[the audience shushes Elaine]
Elaine Benes: [shouts back] Oh, go to hell!

Later...

[as Elaine turns to re-enter the theatre, she sees Gail, Carol and Lisa coming out]
Elaine Benes: [surprised] Hey, what're you guys doing here?
Lisa: We just saw "The English Patient" again.
Gail: It's even better the second time.
Elaine Benes: [sarcastically] They made it longer?

I, too, would have preferred to see Sack Lunch.

manicsounds · #306 Post by **manicsounds** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:19 am

BDdefinition's review also puts the Lionsgate release in picture quality above SC, (and the Lionsgate has a lot more extras as well).

But the difference in the color scheme, unusual if all the previous releases were similar.

colinr0380 · #307 Post by **colinr0380** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:10 pm

How about the stuffed toy take on the film?

ianthemovie · #308 Post by **ianthemovie** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:11 pm

Has anybody taken a look at the new R1 Blu of The Piano? From the sounds of it on Beaver and on Amazon, all of the subtitles for Ada's sign language and the Maori dialogue (i.e., crucial pieces of information) have been left off. Quite a disappointment seeing as how a Blu-ray edition of this film has been long-awaited and is much-deserved. To my knowledge, even the SD-DVD has never been upgraded for R1 since its original non-anamorphic edition back in c. 2000.

What do you all suppose is the likelihood of Lionsgate issuing a recall and/or fixing this? Removing the subtitles from this film seems to me pretty egregious. I had really been looking forward to this release, but it looks like I'll be holding on to my sad +12-year-old DVD until a better version comes along.

Brian C · #309 Post by **Brian C** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:38 pm

I've watched it, and it's true that the described subtitles are missing. I didn't miss them though - I've read where some say that they're vital to the story, but I don't agree, and in fact I'd entertain arguments that it's a better film without them. Ada's backstory now seems more ambiguous, and I think it plays nicely against Flora's fanciful stories.

That said it's been long enough since I've seen the movie that I don't remember all that precisely what's missing, so perhaps ignorance is bliss here. That cuts both ways, I guess - it obviously means that the film isn't rendered an incoherent mess by their absence, but I obviously can't claim to be the final word, either. At any rate, like I say I didn't feel like I was missing anything vital.

Of course, that doesn't speak to the question of intent, and if they're supposed to be there, then Lionsgate should recall and reissue. But I'm happy enough given what I paid for it, and unless the subtitles mean a lot to you personally, I wouldn't let it prevent you from upgrading.

manicsounds · #310 Post by **manicsounds** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:57 pm

So there are only English SDH and that's all? No second subtitle track for the non-English? Definitely should be fixed by Lionsgate. I'm passing on this release since it is extras-free. Waiting for the inevitable Studio Canal UK disc.

Looking at DVDBeaver, they say there are 2 English subtitle tracks, but it is says later on that the Lionsgate has forgotten the non-English dialogue subtitles...

ianthemovie · #311 Post by **ianthemovie** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:16 pm

Well, I guess I have to eat my words--I went ahead and sprang for the Blu-ray. (I had a credit on my account at DVDPlanet, so with tax and shipping it only came to $4.) I am planning to show the movie to some friends in a couple of weeks and figured it will be worth it to have a high-def anamorphic copy, even without the subtitles. I'm hoping that as long as I don't mention it, they won't know that they're missing anything, as this will be their first time seeing the film.

I get what you're saying, Brian, and I'm sure the movie still "works" without the subtitles, but I do believe that those lines add great symbolic meaning to the film (for example near the end when one of the Maori men says that "the piano is a coffin. Let the sea bury it"), and it's infuriating that they've been left off. If Lionsgate ever issues a recall--and I really hope they do--I'll be promptly mailing my copy in for an exchange.

#312 Post by **domino harvey** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:54 pm

Swingers and the underrated Made are out as a double-feature Blu on May 29th

captveg · #313 Post by **captveg** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:19 pm

Grand Illusion blu-ray 7/31/12

Lionsgate's sixth StudioCanal Collection release, and first since Delicatessen in September 2010.

That puts them about, oh, 15-20 or so behind Europe (though there are some from SC EU that Lionsgate does not have rights to).

Drucker · #314 Post by **Drucker** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:48 pm

Wonderful news, was just about to get the region B!

#315 Post by **Jeff** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:16 pm

Drucker wrote:Wonderful news, was just about to get the region B!

I already did, as I had given up on the StudioCanal Collection continuing to exist in the U.S. Features appear to be the same, and I like the packaging on my UK disc.

Brian C · #316 Post by **Brian C** » Wed May 09, 2012 10:23 pm

So they're actually releasing it as "La Grande Illusion" instead "Grand Illusion"? Not that I oppose, necessarily, but it's pretty shocking. This is the company that released Un Flic as "Dirty Money".

manicsounds · #317 Post by **manicsounds** » Thu May 10, 2012 10:42 am

I don't know if all the features are carried over. The Euro "Le Grande Illusion" includes "Little Match Girl", but the US press release doesn't mention it.

FilmFanSea · #318 Post by **FilmFanSea** » Thu May 10, 2012 1:08 pm

manicsounds wrote:I don't know if all the features are carried over. The Euro "Le Grande Illusion" includes "Little Match Girl", but the US press release doesn't mention it.

Lionsgate previously released The Little Match Girl (La Petite Marchande D'Allumettes) in the US on the 2007 3-disc Jean Renoir Collector's Edition (still in print), so they may have felt it was superfluous on this release.

PfR73 · #319 Post by **PfR73** » Fri May 11, 2012 10:34 am

colinr0380 wrote:How about the stuffed toy take on the film?

I listened to the solo Anthony Minghella commentary last night & he actually mentions this parody in the commentary. He apparently enjoyed it & had seen it more in the intervening years between finishing the film & recording the commentary than he had seen his actual film.

The Narrator Returns · #320 Post by **The Narrator Returns** » Fri May 11, 2012 6:20 pm

"See you at the video store, Richter!"

Total Recall Announced, Again, For Blu-Ray

#321 Post by **cdnchris** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:50 pm

Sorta surprised this wasn't mentioned yet. Checked my e-mail late and saw that Lionsgate is releasing a Tarantino box set on Blu-ray for November 20th which includes True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, JackieBrown, both Kill Bills, Death Proof, and Inglourious Basterds. It looks like it's just a repackaging of existing discs, though, but does include two bonus discs that includes this material:

* Critics Corner: The Films of Quentin Tarantino – In-depth critics’ discussion piece exploring Tarantino’s films that redefined cinema and the impact of one of the most influential writers/directors of our time.
* 20 Years of Filmmaking – Take a look at Tarantino’s career from the beginning, with interviews from co-workers, critics, stars and master filmmakers alike as well as a tribute to his greatest collaborator, Sally Menke.

It says the 2 bonus discs contain 5-hours' worth of material so I assume there's more than what has been listed.

It's going to be $119.99

Art work

#322 Post by **matrixschmatrix** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:00 pm

That's kind of annoying- I'd be interested to see the bonuses, particularly any material about Menke, but I've already got everything in there besides Death Proof, which I don't especially want.

#323 Post by **cdnchris** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:30 pm

Yeah, it's a bit useless unless you own none of them or only a few. Somewhat stunned that Natural Born Killers isn't in there, but I guess that's more Stone's movie and I believe Tarantino isn't fond of the finished result.

Also disappointed about the lack of From Dusk Till Dawn, but I'm guessing even Lionsgate has standards and figured there was no way in hell they were including the Echo Bridge disc.

colinr0380 · #324 Post by **colinr0380** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:50 pm

I might have to debate with myself about this one. On the one hand I already have all the films except Reservoir Dogs on DVD, on the other the Blu upgrade and the extras might be worth the price. Hmm

cdnchris wrote:Also disappointed about the lack of From Dusk Till Dawn, but I'm guessing even Lionsgate has standards and figured there was no way in hell they were including the Echo Bridge disc.

I haven't looked into the From Dusk Till Dawn situation. Was that disc particularly bad? I see that Echo Bridge seem to have released that film's making of documentary Full Tilt Boogie as a separate disc. I would have thought that would have been an essential inclusion on the From Dusk Till Dawn package rather than a standalone thing!

#325 Post by **cdnchris** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:08 pm

I haven't actually seen it yet but the "good" reviews suggested it was "OK" and the most scathing basically said it looked like a murky upscale littered with artifacts. It also has none of the features from the DVD, except you can get Full Tilt Boogie in the set (which has all of the films in the series) or on its own as you said.

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