86 There's Always Tomorrow

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86 There's Always Tomorrow

#1 Post by Finch » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:54 pm

There's Always Tomorrow

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Between his twin masterpieces All That Heaven Allows and Written on the Wind, Douglas Sirk created this razor-sharp study of male crisis, both a glittering testament to love's labours lost and his most unforgiving vision of suburban conformity.

Disregarded and neglected by his family, executive toy manufacturer Clifford Groves (Fred MacMurray) is unexpectedly reunited with his former co-worker Norma Miller (Barbara Stanwyck). As the old friends catch up on lost time, his children's suspicions and hostility to the new relationship threaten to push their father away permanently and throw into disarray the lives of all concerned.

With crystalline, noir-tinged cinematography from Russell Metty (Touch of Evil) and heartbreaking performances by Stanwyck and MacMurray, reunited 12 years after Double Indemnity in their final on-screen pairing, There's Always Tomorrow finds one of Hollywood's greatest dramatists at his finest. The Masters of Cinema Series is proud to present this little-seen classic in a new special edition.

SPECIAL FEATURES

• Beautiful high-definition anamorphic transfer
Days with Sirk, a 61-minute documentary from 2008 featuring rare interview footage with Sirk shot in 1982
• Original theatrical trailer
• New optional English subtitles (SDH) for the hearing impaired
• Original dialogue and continuity script (in PDF form)
• Booklet featuring an essay by Andrew Klevan, excerpts from a 1977 interview with Sirk and rare production stills

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#2 Post by Tribe » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:34 pm

Is this gonna be Blu ray only or DVD? I couldn't tell from any of the specs.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#3 Post by domino harvey » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:48 pm

The Blu-ray numbers are low, the DVD numbers high. It's DVD

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#4 Post by hangman » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:59 am

Tribe wrote:Is this gonna be Blu ray only or DVD? I couldn't tell from any of the specs.
This was discussed earlier and it was noted to be DVD, since the original master isn't available and isn't high on the priority of the studio, so unless things have changed should be DVD. So rejoice or despair, hopefully more of the former rather than the latter as this is another Sirk to watch :D

Edit: Found the old message on the twitbook topic for MoC.
peerpee wrote:The HD backup master was destroyed in the Universal fire. A new one needs to be made, but it's bottom of their agenda. Our release will be DVD only, unfortunately. But it will contain DAYS WITH SIRK.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#5 Post by jaredsap » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:05 am

Mr Finch wrote:Specs announced:

• Beautiful high-definition anamorphic transfer
peerpee wrote:The HD backup master was destroyed in the Universal fire. A new one needs to be made, but it's bottom of their agenda.
Very excited for this, but I'm a bit confused...

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#6 Post by hangman » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:11 am

jaredsap wrote:
Mr Finch wrote:Specs announced:

• Beautiful high-definition anamorphic transfer
peerpee wrote:The HD backup master was destroyed in the Universal fire. A new one needs to be made, but it's bottom of their agenda.
Very excited for this, but I'm a bit confused...
Probably just means the existing master is good enough for DVD but doesn't make the cut for Blu-ray (which is what was asked as to why it wasn't on Blu), I wouldn't worry about the MoC transfer quality given their releases and even more so considering that there is the Carlotta release which looked quite good, which you can check out at DVDbeaver, (and most likely same or similar source for MoC).
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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#7 Post by david hare » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:40 am

Yes jared, I was confused by the copy too.

It would be nice to think the master they eventually get is at least a 2k ...

I own three versions of this - the German, French and the Oz and they all look wonderful, but this would be something in 1080p.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#8 Post by tojoed » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:31 am

Nick, will it have English subs for the deaf ?

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#9 Post by peerpee » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:41 am

Yes -it will have SDH.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#10 Post by tojoed » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:47 am

Great, that's three copies sold already. Much obliged.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#11 Post by Jack Phillips » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:32 pm

Does the Carlotta edition include the earlier film version as well?

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#12 Post by tojoed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:33 am

Jack Phillips wrote:Does the Carlotta edition include the earlier film version as well?
No, was there an earlier version, or are you thinking of "Magnificent Obsession"?

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#13 Post by david hare » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:30 pm

No They mean Stahl's When Tomorrow Comes (1939) - I think - which was included in one or other of the rleases (but also not in the Oz Madman very expensive disc.)

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#14 Post by willoneill » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:55 pm

Jesus, how many John Stahl movies did Sirk remake?

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#15 Post by tojoed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:20 pm

I didn't know it was based on Stahl's "When Tomorrow Comes", but, anyhow, although the Carlotta is a two disc affair ther's no other film on it.
To answer Willoneil, with "There's Always Tomorrow", there's also "Magnificent Obsession" and "Imitation of Life", so that's at least three. Maybe somone knows more.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#16 Post by tenia » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:51 pm

Here what is on the 2nd disc from the Carlotta release :

. DEMAIN EST UN AUTRE JOUR PAR BOURGET & BERTHOMIEU (25 mn): Une conversation autour du film entre Jean-Loup Bourget, historien du cinéma, et Pierre Berthomieu, spécialiste du cinéma hollywoodien.

. TANT D’ANNÉES APRÈS… (23 mn): Pat Crowley et Gigi Perreau se remémorent leur collaboration avec Douglas Sirk et Barbara Stanwyck sur le tournage du film.

. PERSPECTIVES SUR LA FAMILLE AMÉRICAINE (25 mn): La réalisatrice et icône du cinéma indépendant américain Allison Anders (Border Radio, Sugar Town et Four Rooms) révèle pourquoi Demain est un autre jour est son film de chevet et tire des parallèles entre le cinéma de Douglas Sirk et celui de Wim Wenders.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#17 Post by Ashirg » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:55 am

Interlude is a remake of Stahl's When Tomorrow Comes an it's included on Interlude disc.

There's Always Tomorrow is a remake of Edward Sloman's There's Always Tomorrow (1934) and that film is not on DVD.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#18 Post by david hare » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:40 am

Merci!

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#19 Post by What A Disgrace » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:01 am

I wouldn't mind if you delayed this disc for a few months (or a year even) if you could snag the Carlotta extras, Nick.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#20 Post by peerpee » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:48 am

We couldn't make the figures work. We went for the DAYS WITH SIRK documentary instead (and had that subtitled), when we were facing "zero extras" in the face.

This title will, unfortunately, only sell hundreds of copies and we've pushed the boat out by including the documentary and doing SDH on the feature.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#21 Post by tojoed » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:09 am

I'm quite happy just to have the film with SDH, good for MoC.

I suppose Sirk's film should have been called "There's Always 2morrow".

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#22 Post by Cash Flagg » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:23 pm

tenia wrote:. TANT D’ANNÉES APRÈS… (23 mn): Pat Crowley et Gigi Perreau se remémorent leur collaboration avec Douglas Sirk et Barbara Stanwyck sur le tournage du film.

. PERSPECTIVES SUR LA FAMILLE AMÉRICAINE (25 mn): La réalisatrice et icône du cinéma indépendant américain Allison Anders (Border Radio, Sugar Town et Four Rooms) révèle pourquoi Demain est un autre jour est son film de chevet et tire des parallèles entre le cinéma de Douglas Sirk et celui de Wim Wenders.
These extras are also on the Madman disc.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#23 Post by Cash Flagg » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:11 am


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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#24 Post by Finch » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:22 pm

This could be one of the best DVDs of 2010: the image looks wonderful and I'm looking forward to seeing the film for the first time (placed my preorder with Amazon yesterday). Coincidentally, I watched another Stanwyck-Murray pairing (Leisen's Remember The Night) yesterday and it left me hungry for more.

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Re: 86 There's Always Tomorrow

#25 Post by Finch » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:53 am

Watched the film and read the booklet last night and expectedly it's another winner from MoC: Andrew Klevans' analysis of the first two scenes is an excellent read and deepened my appreciation for the film which I loved. As good as Stanwyck and MacMurray are in the Leisen and the Wilder, I think this is possibly their subtlest and most moving performances together. Especially liked the moment in Clifford's office when Norma says that for a while time stood still, or when she turns sharply at his remark that her visit is the most pleasant surprise he has had in years.

Also wanted to mention the beautiful packaging, with great stills on the inside cover, the menu and booklet. Thanks MoC =D>

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