172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

Discuss DVDs and Blu-rays released by Eureka/Masters of Cinema and the films on them. If it's got a spine number, it's in here.
Forum rules
Please do not clutter up the threads for MoC titles with information on pre-orders. You can announce the availability of pre-orders in the MoC: Cheapest Prices / Best Places to Buy / Pre-Orders thread. Any posts on pre-orders in any other thread will be deleted.
Message
Author
User avatar
TMDaines
Posts: 3683
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:01 pm
Location: Stretford, Manchester

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#51 Post by TMDaines » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:29 am

This box set is the dog's bollocks. If you've never seen any of the three films here, you are in for a great time. The extras I've watched are all fantastic too and I'm excited to see more Keaton. One of MoC's very best.

User avatar
senseabove
Posts: 82
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:07 am

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#52 Post by senseabove » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:22 pm

Are there really no screencap comparisons with the Kino releases anywhere yet? I know it's going to be an improvement, but, ya know, I'd like to see it with my own eyes before I inevitably convince myself to double dip on these...

User avatar
Drucker
Posts: 4120
Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 9:37 am

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#53 Post by Drucker » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:26 pm

It is night and day compared to Kino. If you love Keaton they are essential.

User avatar
swo17
Posts: 13644
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am
Location: SLC, UT

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#54 Post by swo17 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:30 pm

But what about the more recent 4K Kino reissues?

User avatar
FrauBlucher
Posts: 3046
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
Location: Greenwich Village

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#55 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:01 pm


User avatar
Roscoe
Posts: 222
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:40 pm
Location: NYC

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#56 Post by Roscoe » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:09 am

Well, the original Kino Keaton Blu-Rays were not the Lobster "restorations." I got the Kino/Lobster release of the Keaton shorts, and much preferred the original Kino Blu-Ray, the Kino/Lobster versions looking frankly rather washed out, almost bleached. I read at least one review of the Kino/Lobster release of THE GENERAL that preferred the original Kino Blu-Ray, and after my experience with the short films I didn't bother to get it.

These Cohen 4K restorations are glorious. THE GENERAL in particular looks like it was shot yesterday. My multi-region Blu-ray player is more than justified.

User avatar
whaleallright
Posts: 902
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:56 am

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#57 Post by whaleallright » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:15 pm

I assume that Cohen themselves will be releasing these in the USA...? Are these the only Keaton features that have benefited from this new(er) round of restorations?

User avatar
andyli
Posts: 540
Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:46 pm

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#58 Post by andyli » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:53 pm

It's going to be a massive project comparable to the Chaplin one over at Cineteca di Bologna. The goal is to restore, over time, all Keaton's silents.

User avatar
Ribs
Posts: 2930
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#59 Post by Ribs » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:59 pm

No word from Cohen about when they'll be releasing them over here, but I believe as of mid-2017 these were the only ones they had completed.

User avatar
whaleallright
Posts: 902
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:56 am

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#60 Post by whaleallright » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:13 pm

andyli wrote:It's going to be a massive project comparable to the Chaplin one over at Cineteca di Bologna. The goal is to restore, over time, all Keaton's silents.

Thanks! This is probably a product of me getting older and time seeming to run faster, but it feels like yesterday that Lobster debuted their own restorations of Keaton's films, to considerable fanfare or at least gratitude. I was inclined to wait to purchase these new restorations until something equivalent to Kino's enormous Keaton set arrived, but it sounds like these will be released piecemeal for the foreseeable future.

User avatar
FrauBlucher
Posts: 3046
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
Location: Greenwich Village

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#61 Post by FrauBlucher » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:29 pm

According to Cohen's website Our Hospitality and Seven Chances are also available in 4k.

Mr. Guy
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:33 pm

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#62 Post by Mr. Guy » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:32 pm

The other Keaton films that have been restored thus far other than The General, Sherlock Jr., and Steamboat Bill Jr, include Seven Chances, Our Hospitality, and Battling Butler, they are also working on all of the shorts and have completed Neighbors, The Goat,the High Sign, Cops, and One Week

User avatar
What A Disgrace
Posts: 2157
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:34 pm
Contact:

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#63 Post by What A Disgrace » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:12 pm

I've no interest in re-buying the shorts for a 4th time, however that manifests itself*, but I'll buy a MoC triple feature of Seven Chances, Our Hospitality and Battling Butler.

*The exception is if its an actual UHD release.

User avatar
denti alligator
Posts: 2734
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:36 pm
Location: "born in heaven, raised in hell"

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#64 Post by denti alligator » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:06 pm

Glad I held off getting the BR of the Shorts. So, are the rest of these coming? I'm selling off my Kinos now, but just want to be sure.

User avatar
Roscoe
Posts: 222
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:40 pm
Location: NYC

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#65 Post by Roscoe » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:27 pm

FWIW -- I saw the new restoration of BATTLING BUTLER, the Cohen restoration that is, at the San Francisco Silent Film Festival a few weeks back, and it is a marvel. Clean and clear and razor sharp, looking like it was shot yesterday. Cohen can't get these restorations to us eager US buyers fast enough.

User avatar
FrauBlucher
Posts: 3046
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
Location: Greenwich Village

Re: 172-174 Sherlock, Jr., The General & Steamboat Bill, Jr.

#66 Post by FrauBlucher » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:50 pm

I’m very surprised Cohen has released these yet. I wonder if they have rights issues for the physical media.

I wonder/hope that MoC will eventually sell these as standalones.

Post Reply