How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#201 Post by bfaison » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:33 am

Can any of you who own a copy of Alphaville confirm the numbers on the disc rings for me? On the bottom of the disc, inner ring: IFPI LB75 90121001N as well as: ALPHAVILLE Made In Taiwan. Top inner disc ring says F2 but it's backwards. Everything about it looks legit down to the paper used for the insert and booklet but I own a few of these old OOP DVDs and none of them say Made in Taiwan or have so little etched into the rings. Thanks for your time.

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#202 Post by Lemdog » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:52 am

My copy of Alphaville says FN72701 and ALP030DVD

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#203 Post by bfaison » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:36 am

Thanks for taking the time to do that. Looks like I got got, then. I will say that if that's the case this is one of the most impressive bootlegs I've ever received. From the printing on the disc to the paper/case used to the menus I would never have been able to tell if I didn't check out the numbers. Here's some pics for anyone curious.

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#204 Post by bfaison » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:22 am

So thanks to Lemdog's info I bought a copy on eBay that has matching 'FN72701' and 'ALP030DVD', but this disc does not have a clear center ring and has a much different printing on the disc art itself (the words are not shiny/metallic and it is overall much more blurry). Here's some pics.

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#205 Post by Minkin » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:32 pm

bfaison wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:22 am
So thanks to Lemdog's info I bought a copy on eBay that has matching 'FN72701' and 'ALP030DVD', but this disc does not have a clear center ring and has a much different printing on the disc art itself (the words are not shiny/metallic and it is overall much more blurry). Here's some pics.
Your Alphaville looks identical to the one that I bought directly from Criterion. Same code on the bottom; the center ring is mirrored (+the small central ring that is clear). The printing on the disc looks the same blurry / wonky too. Your 2nd copy is legitimate.

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#206 Post by bfaison » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:05 pm

Thank you!

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#207 Post by black&huge » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:19 am

Are criterion bootlegs still a major problem? I'm eyeing a dual format copy of L'eclisse on amazon for around $34 and I have no idea if that version still gets sold for ridiculous prices but it is from a third party seller but sold and shipped directly from Amazon and I hear even in those cases a bad product can still go through to the customer. Seller feedback is overall 99% but negative feedback seems to be consistent though not outweighing positive feedback and I only saw one 1 star rating for the past month or so for a "fake copy" but stretching back a few months it's all 4-5 star ratings

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Re: How to identify (and avoid) Criterion bootlegs

#208 Post by tenia » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:28 am

The one I'm seeing at $34.5 on Amazon is noted as "Ships from and sold by Amazon.com". It looks like this is what they're currently selling the movie since the 2018 BD-only re-release also is currently at $37.13.
I don't know if there is a specific reason for you to be looking for the DF release, but you would probably have been better off buying the re-release during the B&N 50% sale.

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