Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol. 4

The scuttlebutt on Criterion, Eclipse, and Janus Films. Lists and polls are STRONGLY discouraged.
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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

#1551 Post by albucat » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:03 pm

I believe that was announced way back in 2009, and there's been no real evidence of a forthcoming release since then. Unfortunately, I would guess this was a planned title that was cancelled long ago.

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#1552 Post by zedz » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:00 pm

As long as I've been watching their site, at least, which must be four or five years now.

(Just checked: the MoC F or Fake came out at the beginning of 2007, and it must have been in the works well before then.)

I strongly doubt that the project has been abandoned, since they actually hold all of the materials. It's more likely that the scope of the project keeps changing or the restoration work is more complicated / expensive than they anticipated.

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#1553 Post by Roger Ryan » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:35 am

zedz wrote: I strongly doubt that the project has been abandoned, since they actually hold all of the materials. It's more likely that the scope of the project keeps changing or the restoration work is more complicated / expensive than they anticipated.
I suspect the delay may be related more to logistics or legal issues. Virtually all of the Welles material the Munich Filmmuseum has in its archive has been edited and presented as short subjects at various festivals and retrospectives for years (THE DREAMERS presentation is especially good). I don't think there is much additional restoration that can be done, although with the advent of Blu-ray I imagine they would consider rescanning the 35mm and 16mm elements at a higher resolution to create HD versions of the presentations (I'm thinking the versions that are screened at festivals now are in SD). The 40-odd minute assembly of scenes from THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND would definitely be prevented from appearing on a home video release because of legal issues; perhaps some of the other holdings are in a similar legal limbo.

Regarding videotape: Welles was just beginning to experiment with shooting on video shortly before he died and he intended to do a version of KING LEAR where the close-ups would be shot on video then transferred to 35mm and establishing shots would originate on film. Welles prepared a promo short to interest investors in which he performed a brief excerpt as Lear. Apart from this, everything else Welles shot originated on 35mm or 16mm film.

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#1554 Post by krnash » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:41 pm

Criterion tweeted a link to this collection of ten photos from There Will Be Blood

Probably just one set of film lovers spreading a good gallery of photos from a movie they love. But maybe something more?

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#1555 Post by Lowry_Sam » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:42 pm

ryannichols7 wrote:this forum's favorite designer Sam Smith, via Twitter:
Sam's Myth ‏@SamsMyth
Just had a totally transcendent viewing of a film I'm working on w @Criterion. Truly my #1 dream assignment.

Sam's Myth ‏@SamsMyth
I first saw this film on a 14" tv in NYU's media library. I've seen it a dozen times since. Tonight was like seeing it for the first time.
>Film Library Search>La Dolce Vita Fellini, Federico 1960 174 min DVD DVD1563

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#1556 Post by scoundrel » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:37 am

Lowry_Sam wrote:
ryannichols7 wrote:this forum's favorite designer Sam Smith, via Twitter:
Sam's Myth ‏@SamsMyth
Just had a totally transcendent viewing of a film I'm working on w @Criterion. Truly my #1 dream assignment.

Sam's Myth ‏@SamsMyth
I first saw this film on a 14" tv in NYU's media library. I've seen it a dozen times since. Tonight was like seeing it for the first time.
>Film Library Search>La Dolce Vita Fellini, Federico 1960 174 min DVD DVD1563
>Film Library Search>Ballistic Jaw Propulsion of Trap-Jaw Ants u/k 4 min DVD DVD2257

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#1557 Post by bringmesomechemicals » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:21 am

>Post Reaction Search>scoundrel>Ballistic Humor Production

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#1558 Post by zedz » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:46 pm

OMG! Criterion are really releasing Ballistic Jaw Propulsion of Trap-Jaw Ants? FUCKING SELL-OUTS!

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#1559 Post by HistoryProf » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:11 pm

onedimension wrote:Dreyer's Joan of Arc
This is what I was thinking....but maybe that's just because i've been dreaming of this on blu for two years now. But it's the film that I immediately think of whenever i hear something described as "transcendent".

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#1560 Post by movielocke » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:01 am

City Lights?

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#1561 Post by movielocke » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:20 pm

Might as well kickstart the speculation for Monday:

Pina
Qatsi trilogy

Grey Gardens/Beales of Grey Gardens bluray upgrade

Etaix eclipse (but probably been pushed to january)

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#1562 Post by Matt » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:19 pm

The last two posts on the "Current" section of the website featured I Know Where I'm Going! and The Scarlet Empress. I know it probably means nothing, but I can dream about new Blu-ray editions, can't I?

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#1563 Post by jwd5275 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:30 pm

The two Hulot upgrades
On the Waterfront

T-t-t-t-that's all folks.

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#1564 Post by Forrest Taft » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:44 pm

Hitchcock Masterpiece Blu-Ray Collection, produced by Peerpee.

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#1565 Post by movielocke » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:13 pm

Matt wrote:The last two posts on the "Current" section of the website featured I Know Where I'm Going! and The Scarlet Empress. I know it probably means nothing, but I can dream about new Blu-ray editions, can't I?
I share your dream. I know Where I'm Going, if upgraded, should include the full length Edge of the World, given the added space of bluray.

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#1566 Post by knives » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:15 pm

I would rather they give it its own release given the quality of the film and the number of potential extra (see the BFI release for further illustration).

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#1567 Post by matrixschmatrix » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:25 pm

Well I think they should release a big box set of all the Dietrich/von Sternberg collaborations on blu, even though I know that won't happen, because seriously that would be amazing

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#1568 Post by Matt » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:29 pm

movielocke wrote:
Matt wrote:The last two posts on the "Current" section of the website featured I Know Where I'm Going! and The Scarlet Empress. I know it probably means nothing, but I can dream about new Blu-ray editions, can't I?
I share your dream. I know Where I'm Going, if upgraded, should include the full length Edge of the World, given the added space of bluray.
knives wrote:I would rather they give it its own release given the quality of the film and the number of potential extra (see the BFI release for further illustration).
Seriously, get the BFI. It's an amazing set (and region-free).

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#1569 Post by captveg » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:51 pm

jwd5275 wrote:The two Hulot upgrades
On the Waterfront

T-t-t-t-that's all folks.
Agreed.

On the Waterfront (BD/DVD)
Jour de fete (w/ Parade as bonus) (BD/DVD)
M. Hulot's Holiday (BD upgrade)
Mon Oncle (BD upgrade)

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#1570 Post by kingofthejungle » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:54 pm

matrixschmatrix wrote:Well I think they should release a big box set of all the Dietrich/von Sternberg collaborations on blu, even though I know that won't happen, because seriously that would be amazing
This would be perhaps the greatest release of anything ever.

I would buy 5.

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#1571 Post by zedz » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Matt wrote:The last two posts on the "Current" section of the website featured I Know Where I'm Going! and The Scarlet Empress. I know it probably means nothing, but I can dream about new Blu-ray editions, can't I?
I'll dream right along with you, but I presume we won't see I Know Where I'm Going! until it undergoes a full restoration, since it seems like they're working through the major Powell / Pressburger titles one by one (which means Colonel Blimp should be next up from Criterion).

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#1572 Post by willoneill » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:54 pm

movielocke wrote:Might as well kickstart the speculation for Monday:

Pina
Am I crazy or didn't someone else release Pina just a couple of months ago?

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#1573 Post by bradass » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:32 pm

willoneill wrote:
movielocke wrote:Might as well kickstart the speculation for Monday:

Pina
Am I crazy or didn't someone else release Pina just a couple of months ago?
Mongrel Media put out an edition in Canada.

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#1574 Post by Minkin » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:11 am

While attempting to dig up any information regarding Janus and the Harold Lloyd Estate (there's a few Harold Lloyd films playing at Film Forum between now and November -for those wanting to see them/find out who the distributor is), I dug up this mildly interesting list of Janus films from the AFI Catalog page (oddly, most all of the films listed are from 1961-64, and plenty is missing, but there are a few surprises there (at least for those of us who haven't seen that full Janus catalog page that somebody had a while back, if anyone still has a copy of that, could they pm it to me?)).

Here's the full list of 35 titles:

All These Women (1964)
Anatomy of a Marriage; My Days With Jean-Marc (1964)
Anatomy of a Marriage; My Nights With Françoise (1964)
Ashes and Diamonds (1961)
L'avventura (1961)
Bernadette of Lourdes (1962)
China! (1965)
Cinderella (1961)
Crooks Anonymous (1963)
The Devil's Eye (1961)
The Face of War (1963)
The Fiances (1964)
The Fruit Is Ripe (1961)
The Guest (1964)
Harold Lloyd's Funny Side of Life (1966)
Heavens Above! (1963)
Jules and Jim (1962)
Just Once More (1963)
Maid for Murder (1963)
Nurse on Wheels (1963)
Opiate '67 (1967)
The Playboy of the Western World (1963)
Port of Call (1963)
The Ritual (1970)
Secrets of Women (1961)
Some Like It Cool (1961)
The Sound of Trumpets (1963)
Sparrows Can't Sing (1963)
The Swedish Mistress (1964)
Three Fables of Love (1963)
Through a Glass Darkly (1962)
The Troublemaker (1964)
Two Daughters (1963)
Winter Light (1963)
Young Aphrodites (1966)

I also found the TCM page for Hitchcock's Number 17, which lists Janus as the domestic distributor. Does Janus own quite a few of these PD Hitchcock films (some of which haven't seen daylight for a while - like Secret Agent - that Ian mentioned not too long ago)?

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#1575 Post by ShellOilJunior » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:02 am

Going by the recent hint, we might see a title announced today that begins with a 'B'.

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