Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Boosmahn
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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2501 Post by Boosmahn » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:13 pm

Some Like It Hot and A Story From Chikamatsu have both been pushed back a week.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2502 Post by domino harvey » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:23 pm

Presumably the same disc production issues hitting other labels

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#2503 Post by Fortisquince » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:36 am

Could you elaborate on the production issues? On Amazon, I noticed that the delivery date for my order of Chikamatsu has been delayed until 11/16 and the release date for 2001 has been all over the place. What’s going on? I was really hoping to kick back with 2001, Ambersons, and put on a personal Mizoguchi retrospective over Thanksgiving.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2504 Post by KJones77 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:39 am

Fortisquince wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:36 am
Could you elaborate on the production issues? On Amazon, I noticed that the delivery date for my order of Chikamatsu has been delayed until 11/16 and the release date for 2001 has been all over the place. What’s going on? I was really hoping to kick back with 2001, Ambersons, and put on a personal Mizoguchi retrospective over Thanksgiving.
Not an expert but from what I understand, nearly all North American disc production has been relocated to just one manufacturer in just one factory.

Delays have run rampant in the industry lately due to missed deadlines and the factory running over capacity.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2505 Post by Boosmahn » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:23 pm

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2506 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:25 pm

So, going forward all release dates will be "fake"?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2507 Post by Boosmahn » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:24 pm

Abbas Kiarostami's short film Bread and Alley now has an information page

Maybe a supplement for the Koker Trilogy? The films are coming out in Japan in February, so it's possible.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2508 Post by Glowingwabbit » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:43 pm

Boosmahn wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:24 pm
Abbas Kiarostami's short film Bread and Alley now has an information page

Maybe a supplement for the Koker Trilogy? The films are coming out in Japan in February, so it's possible.
Jonathan Rosenbaum said early 2019 so it would make sense if it was announced today (or next month). I don't know if it's going to be just the Koker Trilogy or a bigger set. Not sure if that's been verified anywhere.

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#2509 Post by knives » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:45 pm

I wouldn't mind a separate children's film set from the Koker set, but that's just me.

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#2510 Post by Ribs » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:52 pm

Berlin Alexanderplatz now on coming soon page, had an HD clip too

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#2511 Post by Glowingwabbit » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:57 pm

Ribs wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:52 pm
Berlin Alexanderplatz now on coming soon page, had an HD clip too
I just bought the Second Sight one yesterday so this makes sense.

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#2512 Post by swo17 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:01 pm

David Mackenzie encoded and presented at the correct speed, so not a regrettable purchase!

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#2513 Post by domino harvey » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:05 pm

Upgrading that and releasing the Koker Trilogy would be two uncommonly large releases for one month

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2514 Post by captveg » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:08 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:25 pm
So, going forward all release dates will be "fake"?
October and November are the peak replication time of year due to the holiday push, and new release titles will get preferential treatment over catalog titles. Things should settle down and normalize by the beginning of the year.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2515 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:25 pm

They are up. Death in Venice, To Sleep with Anger, La verite, Shame and Berlin Alexanderplatz

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2516 Post by Brian C » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:32 pm

With the exception of To Sleep with Anger, this is a very 2002-ish Criterion lineup - Bergman, Visconti, Clouzot, RWF. All that's missing is a Kurosawa.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2517 Post by Finch » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:57 pm

Very happy about To Sleep with Anger!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2518 Post by Minkin » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:20 am

Time for the Speculation Rodeo!

To Sleep with Anger - Aug newsletter clue + was previously confirmed by Burnett

Death in Venice - Confirmed via restoration credit at festival screening (same with Some Like it Hot)

La vérité - Confirmed many years ago at some event - by Becker. Restored in 2017

Shame - More Bergman stand-alone releases being trotted out for the completionists and both of the people who don't want the Bergman set

Berlin Alexanderplatz - Upgrade (was this restored?)
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249 upgrades remain. No real surprises this month (other than finally getting La verite). I wonder how many more Bergman films we're going to get still. Criterion has one more month before I remove Bringing Up Baby / Thin Man from the 2018 New Years clues section.

For Region B fans - I suspect To Sleep with Anger / Death in Venice / La verite will be made available there.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2519 Post by perkizitore » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:02 am

Minkin wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:20 am
For Region B fans - I suspect To Sleep with Anger / Death in Venice / La verite will be made available there.
Death in Venice is not that certain compared to the other two (although it would be great to be proved wrong), how many Warner titles have been released so far in the UK?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2520 Post by dwk » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:25 am

Criterion has released 28 Warner titles across 26 releases in the US and 10 of those films, in 9 releases, have been issued in the UK.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2521 Post by Apperson » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:32 am

There are a few that have been released here, The Philadelphia Story was the most recent until True Stories gets released in January.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2522 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:00 pm


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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2523 Post by Big Ben » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:24 pm

I mean it feels right given the circumstances. It was to be upgraded and was then pulled. I really like Ran and having Criterion put it out again would ensure an immediate purchase from me.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2524 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:27 pm

Captveg said the KLInsider that the SC releases Lionsgate put out will stay with Lionsgate. Hopefully that was bad info on the KLInsiders part.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#2525 Post by domino harvey » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:32 pm

Maybe they will and these will be released concurrently with the SC ones. I could see Lionsgate being persuaded if they could keep their releases in print. Universal's done it with a few Criterion titles as well, so it wouldn't be without precedent

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