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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:54 pm 
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Was The Searchers restoration that produced the original blu-ray not 4k? I'm intrigued by it and North by Northwest. There are a ton of posts about their last restorations, how millions were spent to do them, and after all that the releases were still a bit disappointing. Comparing both blu-rays to the 35mm releases I've seen I actually don't believe they fare too poorly, which makes me wonder if they are merely victims of a terrible encode and perhaps some 2008-era grain management that looks bad, but the underlying restorations already look great.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:37 am 

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Was The Searchers restoration that produced the original blu-ray not 4k? I'm intrigued by it and North by Northwest. There are a ton of posts about their last restorations, how millions were spent to do them, and after all that the releases were still a bit disappointing. Comparing both blu-rays to the 35mm releases I've seen I actually don't believe they fare too poorly, which makes me wonder if they are merely victims of a terrible encode and perhaps some 2008-era grain management that looks bad, but the underlying restorations already look great.


The Searchers was 4K circa-2004 from the 8 perf 35mm color separations since the camera negative was too faded.

North by Northwest was 4K (likely scanned in 6/8K) circa-2009 from the 8 perf faded camera negative plus the 8 perf B&W yellow separation to replace the missing color on the negative.

Both are VC-1 lower bitrate encodes on Blu, though.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:05 pm 
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The NxNW scan was indeed 8K and downscaled to 4K for restoration.
As for the result, I think they are just results of the time. I'm quite sure that if Warner was to perform the same type of workflow now on these, the results would be better because the experience in digital restoration and scanning are better now.
I don't know if the 2015 BFI 4K restoration of Doctor Zhivago is a clear improvement over what Warner did in 2010, but that would be another movie I tend to compare (digital PQ wise) to NxNW and The Searchers and which would need to be improved upon too. I saw the Warner restoration in theaters 2 years ago, and it just wasn't good enough anymore.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:36 pm 

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Warner has discontinued A Clockwork Orange and Papillon. Could they be potential Criterion releases?


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