Criterion and Warner Bros.

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Re: Criterion and Warner Bros.

#701 Post by barryconvex » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:20 am

MichaelB wrote:I always assumed that Monty Python and the Holy Grail was a direct piss-take of Lancelot du Lac...
I had the exact same thought while watching Jabberwocky...

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#702 Post by matrixschmatrix » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:03 am

MichaelB wrote:I always assumed that Monty Python and the Holy Grail was a direct piss-take of Lancelot du Lac until I looked at its production history against the Bresson film’s release history and realised that this would be a logistical impossibility - unless one of the Monty Python team was treated to an early screening in France (and why would they have been?), they’d have had to fly down to Cannes mid-production for the world premiere. And Lancelot du Lac didn’t open theatrically in Britain until several months after Holy Grail - for some reason it took more than a year to cross the Channel.

So it really does seem to be a very unfortunate coincidence.
One of the Pythons- Jones, I think- talks about this in the special features for Holy Grail, as he says that Bresson's movie opened in New York just after theirs did, and how he kind of felt awful because he actually really liked the Bresson, but it didn't stand a chance at not being treated as ridiculous due to the juxtaposition.

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#703 Post by starmanof51 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:19 pm

The Pythons had been working on the Grail script for awhile too. There were some bits from early drafts that ended up getting used in the last TV season (I'm fuzzy but I think in the Michael Ellis/Department Store episode. Early Grail draft had descendants of the knights still looking for the Grail and checking out Harrod's, because "Harrod's has everything")

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#704 Post by colinr0380 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:30 am

FilmNerdJamie wrote:
colinr0380 wrote:Excalibur would be a fantastic release. It still remains the ultimate 'dark, grungy' high fantasy version of the legend (anticipating a whole run of dark fantasy through the early to mid 80s), maintaining a delicate balance between a sense of wonder whilst filling the characters full of horribly human, adult flaws - the kind of flaws that the more magical figures can inspire them to rise above and/or exploit.

Though it needs to appear in a month where Monty Python and the Holy Grail and Lancelot du Lac also get brought out, for contrast!
Given that it's one of their stock-catalog titles (and the fact Boorman's other masterworks Deliverance and Point Blank got their due), it's shocking Excalibur hasn't gotten a proper home-video release with top-notch transfer and extras. I say that but I could see Point Blank get the Criterion treatment too.

Would be nice for them to get on that while Boorman is still with us... and, while we're at it, someone please put a camera in front of him and get him to talk about The Exorcist II: The Heretic.
Not to mention that I'd really like a good Blu-ray version of Beyond Rangoon at some point, though it might be controversial at the current time due to its focus on the currently getting re-evaulated figure of Aung San Su Kyi. (But then that would provide the fantastic opportunity for historical extras and roundtable discussions Battle of Algiers-style!)

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#705 Post by neeb » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:31 pm

So I was listening to the Director's Club podcast episode on James Whale. And they mentioned SHOWBOAT and how they didn't watch it because they couldn't locate a copy.

I checked the Warner Archive page and...

SHOW BOAT (1936) is out of print.

There is no James Whale in the Collection and there was a report of a phantom page a year back so this movie is now a possibility.

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#706 Post by Minkin » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:50 pm

I'm sure Show Boat is coming at some point - as it was a former Criterion Laserdisc title. Oddly, the laserdisc commentary has shown up on the TCM broadcast of Show Boat as a SAP audio option (strange since the commentary has never appeared on any other video release).

Its a great film, although I mostly just remember the Paul Robeson performances.

Speaking of which - Criterion apparently has the rights to the 30s King Solomon's Mines. Thus I wonder if they'd pair it with the 50s version as well (which WB owns). They could also do the same sort of thing with including the remake of Show Boat with the 30s version, although I think the Whale version is far superior and can exist on its own.

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#707 Post by Ashirg » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:52 pm

Ashirg wrote:Whatever happened to Linklater's Suburbia?
To respond to myself, it's getting a DVD-R release from Warner Archive in January...

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#708 Post by Mr. Deltoid » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:16 am

Ashirg wrote:
Ashirg wrote:Whatever happened to Linklater's Suburbia?
To respond to myself, it's getting a DVD-R release from Warner Archive in January...
Bloody hell, that's annoying! Not even a WB Archive Blu-ray, but a DVD-R? You'd think Linklater's name alone would have persuaded them to bump it up to a pressed disc. Do we know if Warner have the UK rights to this as well? Something in the back of my mind says it was a different distributor, but I could be wrong.

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#709 Post by demonknight » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:15 pm

Apparently, last night at a spoken word show, John Waters confirmed Criterion was doing Female Trouble for 2018 and Polyester for late 2018/early 2019.

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#710 Post by Dentists » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:24 pm

criterion10 wrote:
ianungstad wrote:Stop (Bill Gunn)
Last Summer (Frank Perry)
I do know that the Warner Archive was planning to release both of these, only to be postponed after having trouble locating quality prints.
Bill Gunn’s STOP! - quality print does exist...
Ganja & Hess soundtrack by Sam Waymon out 4/21/18. Contact your local record store to make sure they stock this.

Also I heard from Warner Bros the definitive reason why Bill Gunn’s “Stop!” Hasn’t been released - copyright issues:
“This is mostly in relationship to street music heard in the distant background of the film during interior scenes”.

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