1970s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol. 3)
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:12 am
VOTING CLOSED. RESULTS CAN BE FOUND HERE.
If you are reading this sentence, you are eligible to participate in our forum's latest decades lists project exploring the films of the 1970s. If you know anyone adventurous enough--on or off the forum--that you think would also enjoy participating, feel free to invite them as well.
Please PM me your list of what you believe are the top 50 films from the decade toward the end of the project. You may feel that you could compile a list of 50 favorite films from this period much earlier than the deadline, but it's still highly recommended that you engage in the discussions here. Don't keep your favorites a secret, and always be open to suggestions from others!
THE RULES
1) Each individual list is to comprise no more or less than 50 films, ranked in your order of preference (with no ties). If you haven't yet seen 50 films from the decade that you think are genuinely great (or even if you have), please take advantage of the resources listed below and participate in the ongoing discussions to find films that you can be proud to put on your list.
2) Any feature film, documentary, experimental film, short film, music video, TV miniseries, TV movie, or TV special released in the 1970s (1970-1979) is eligible.
3) The date given on IMDb is the relevant date for determining a film's year of release, even when it's clearly wrong (unless a special case is made below). If the film is not on IMDb and you say it was released during the 1970s, I'll take your word for it.
4) In certain cases, it may be appropriate for films that are technically separate to be combined, or for films that are technically combined to be separated. In such cases, you may vote for either a part or the whole, but bear in mind that all votes will be competing against each other (e.g. a vote for Ivan the Terrible Pt. 1 will not count toward the vote for Ivan the Terrible in the final tally). Generally, if multiple films are allowed to be combined for voting purposes, you should probably vote for them that way unless you are strongly opposed to doing so. The most common cases:
• Single-director multi-part films for which each segment was released separately (e.g. Feuillade's serials, Lang's two-part epics) may be considered as a single film. Films included in trilogies may not be combined.
• Variant edits: For films that exist in multiple versions (e.g. Welles' Mr. Arkadin, Rivette's Out 1), all votes that don't specify a "secondary" version will be counted toward the "primary" version.
• Portmanteau films: Each of the individual segments and the film as a whole are all separately eligible.
We may occasionally need to make a special case related to rule 3 or 4. If you are seriously considering including a film on your list that you have a question about in this regard, bring it up in this thread and we'll iron it out.
For more details about rules and procedures, please refer here.
ELIGIBILITY – REMINDERS / SPECIAL CASES
¡Qué viva México! is cited as a 1970s film on IMDb, but we made it eligible for our 1930s list so it is ineligible now.
The Other Side of the Wind is eligible as a 1970s film even though it was technically completed and released decades later.
Ruskin and The Ear are eligible as 1970s films, even though IMDb calls them 1990s films.
The Godfather and The Godfather Part II are two separate films.
The Ascent of Man and Life on Earth are eligible as miniseries, even though IMDb calls them TV series (which would normally be ineligible).
The following are examples of multi-part films that may be voted for as a single film, or each segment as a separate film, if you insist (with all votes competing against each other): The Emigrants/The New Land, Hapax Legomena, Battles Without Honor and Humanity, The Battle of Chile, Lester's Musketeers films
The following films may be cited as 1970s releases in some places, but not on IMDb, and so are not eligible for this list: The Sorrow and the Pity, The Honeymoon Killers, Eros + Massacre, Walden, The Gladiators, Medea, Smoking, Diary of a Shinjuku Thief, The Night of Counting the Years, Kes, Burn!, Poto and Cabengo, My Night at Maud's, Stations of the Elevated, The Falls, New York Portrait II, Confidence, Birds Orphans and Fools, Build a House Plant a Tree, How to Live, By Night with Torch and Spear, The Fog, The Beyond, Winter Wind, Breaker Morant
The following films are cited as 1970s films on IMDb, and so are eligible for this list, regardless of what anyone else might say: The Conformist, A Touch of Zen, The Wild Child, Days and Nights in the Forest, Le Vent d'est, La Rupture, Whity, Case for a Rookie Hangman, Du côté d'Orouët, Apotheosis, Bronco Bullfrog, Kustom Kar Kommandos, Hi Mom!, Adelheid, Gates of Heaven, Siberiade, Grass Labyrinth, King Lear (Kozintsev), Buffet froid, Autumn Marathon, Lucifer Rising, The Kremlin Letter, End of the Road, Les Choses de la vie, Tale of Tales, Two Wondrous Tigers, Gods of the Plague, Moscow Distrusts Tears, A Intrusa, Fruit of Paradise, L'Enfant secret
RESOURCES
Past Forum Discussions
Discussion from the Forum's Prior 1970s Project
Defending of Sad Pandas from the Forum's Prior 1970s Project
Discussion from the Forum's Western List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Musicals List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Horror List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Animation List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Shorts List Project
The Alternate Oscars: Best Picture 1969-Present
100 Russian and Eastern European Classics
Pakula, Coppola, and the 1970s Cinema of Paranoia
Japanese Cinema in the 1970s
Shaw Brothers & the 1970s
Forum Discussions of International DVDs
African / Bulgarian / Chinese / Cuban / Czech / Dutch / Finnish / German / Hungarian / Norwegian / Polish / Romanian / South American / Swedish / Turkish / Ukrainian / Yugoslavian
Forum Discussions of Filmmakers Active During the 1970s
Robert Aldrich / Woody Allen / Theo Angelopoulos / Michelangelo Antonioni / Dario Argento / Mario Bava / Ingmar Bergman / Bernardo Bertolucci / John Boorman / Robert Bresson / Luis Buñuel / John Carpenter / Claude Chabrol / Michael Cimino / Larry Cohen / Stuart Cooper / David Cronenberg / Brian de Palma / Rainer Werner Fassbinder / Federico Fellini / Freddie Francis / Jess Franco / John Frankenheimer / Georges Franju / Terry Gilliam / Jean-Luc Godard / Wojciech Has / Howard Hawks / Monte Hellman / Alfred Hitchcock / Dennis Hopper / John Huston / Shōhei Imamura / Otar Iosseliani / Krzysztof Kieślowski / Alexander Kluge / John Krish / Stanley Kubrick / Akira Kurosawa / David Lean / Sergio Leone / Joseph Losey / Sidney Lumet / David Lynch / Louis Malle / Joseph L. Mankiewicz / Jean-Pierre Melville / Hayao Miyazaki / Kira Muratova / Ermanno Olmi / Nagisa Ōshima / Pier Paolo Pasolini / Sam Peckinpah / Arthur Penn / Roman Polański / Otto Preminger / Satyajit Ray / Alain Resnais / Nicolas Roeg / George Romero / Francesco Rosi / Roberto Rossellini / Raúl Ruiz / John Schlesinger / Martin Scorsese / Ousmane Sembène / Don Siegel / Jerzy Skolimowski / Jan Švankmajer / Andrei Tarkovsky / Jacques Tati / Jan Troell / François Truffaut / Luchino Visconti / Andrzej Wajda / John Waters / Orson Welles / Billy Wilder / Fred Zinnemann / Valerio Zurlini
Forum Discussions of 1970s Films
And Soon the Darkness / Apocalypse Now / The Battle of Chile / The Beast / Big Nights and Small Mornings / Blue Collar / The Brood / The Conformist / Dynamite Chicken / Emperor of the North Pole / Fingers / The Godfather I & II / Hard Times / Hot Tomorrows / Johnny Got His Gun / Last Tango in Paris / Little Murders / The Marcus Nelson Murders / Mikey & Nicky / The Monk / Nashville / Next Stop, Greenwich Village / 1900 / 99 and 44/100% Dead / No Lies… / On the Silver Globe / Orderers / The Other Side of the Wind / The Outfit / The Passenger / Phantasm / Rituals / Rolling Thunder / Some Call It Loving / Stalker / Stop / Suspiria / Taxi Driver / 10 Rillington Place / Thundercrack! / Twilight's Last Gleaming / Vanishing Point / Wake in Fright / The Wedding Trough / The World at War
Guides Within This Thread
Do you feel you have an especially informed opinion about the work during the 1970s from a particular director, country, genre, etc.? Many people here would greatly appreciate your taking the time to prepare a guide for navigating through all that's available. (Though they do not necessarily need to be comprehensive.) Guides are especially welcome for extremely prolific directors/movements, or to summarize availability for films (such as shorts) that are often hidden away on releases for other films or only available on the web. Past examples: Director Guide, Country Guide, Genre Guide, DVD Availability Guide
zedz on the UK
knives on Ashby, Schlesinger, Bava, and Jaglom, Huston, Ritchie, Malle, and Bartel, Jewison, Van Peebles, Cassavetes, and Antonioni, Hill, De Palma, Penn, and Frankenheimer
domino harvey on Cybill Shepherd, Pakula, Bogdanovich
bamwc2 on Pasolini, Altman, Russell, Cronenberg, Carpenter, Cohen
YnEoS on Joseph Kuo Nam Hung, Golden Harvest comedies, Lee Tso Nam, Goldig Films, more Golden Harvest films
AWAITING FURTHER GUIDES
External Resources
A list of films from the 1970s appearing on They Shoot Pictures, Don't They's Top 1000 or Doubling the Canon lists
(This list is by no means comprehensive, but can serve as a good reminder of some of the more prominent films that are eligible from this decade. Conversely, if you love a film that doesn't show up here, that might be a good indicator that it could use an extra push.)
National lists
AWAITING FURTHER SUGGESTIONS
Recommended Reading
Lost Illusions: American Cinema in the Shadow of Watergate and Vietnam, 1970-1979, David A. Cook
Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex-Drugs-and-Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood, Peter Biskind
AWAITING FURTHER SUGGESTIONS
FORUM MEMBER SPOTLIGHTS
Is there a film you love that you fear is under most people's radar? Try shining a light on it! To inaugurate a film into the spotlight section, just follow these three simple steps:
1. Make a post about the film discussing why you find it so exceptional.
2. Clearly indicate that you wish the film to be one of your spotlight titles.
3. Direct others to where the film can be found.
I'll keep track of all the spotlight titles here so that they can be easily referenced. You're welcome to have more than one spotlight title, but try not to have too many more, so it's manageable for everyone to be able to see them all.
Everyone is strongly encouraged to give each of these films the same chance that you would hope others would give your own spotlight titles.
The Place Without Limits (Arturo Ripstein) (knives)
The Maids (Christopher Miles) (knives)
Black Roots (Lionel Rogosin) (knives)
The Dupes (Tewfik Saleh) (thirtyframesasecond)
Sounder (Martin Ritt) (bamwc2)
The Silent Partner (Daryl Duke) (bamwc2)
Family Life (Ken Loach) (zedz)
The Nail of Brightness (Lino Brocka) (Wu.Qinghua)
At Long Last Love (Peter Bogdanovich) (domino harvey)
Wrong Move (Wim Wenders) (domino harvey)
Alex in Wonderland (Paul Mazursky) (life_boy)
The Stone Wedding (Mircea Veroiu & Dan Pița) (swo17)
The Green Wall (Armando Robles Godoy) (the preacher)
Duvidha (Mani Kaul) (swo17)
AWAITING FURTHER SUGGESTIONS
DESPERATELY SEEKING SO AND SO
Is there a film you're dying to see but you've exhausted all possible avenues for finding it and still come up short? List it here and perhaps some kind soul will be able to direct you to a copy by PM. Please limit listings here to only a few films that you're most desperate to see.
swo17 is seeking:
Mathias Kneissl (Reinhard Hauff)
La Maison du bois (Maurice Pialat) w/ English subs
Doomed Love (Manoel de Oliveira) w/ English subs
Where Spring Comes Late (Yōji Yamada) w/ English subs
bamwc2 is seeking:
Blanche (Walerian Borowczyk)
The Little Theater of Jean Renoir (Jean Renoir)
Shirley Thompson vs The Aliens (Jim Sharman)
Eadweard Muybridge, Zoopraxographer (Thom Andersen)
Without Anesthesia (Andrzej Wajda)
RobertAltman is seeking:
The Gravy Train (Jack Starrett)
Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street (Samuel Fuller)
The Set-Up (Kathryn Bigelow)
knives is seeking:
Lorsque le bateau de Léon M. descendit la Meuse pour la première fois (Dardenne brothers)
Le chant du rossignol (Dardenne brothers)
***Please PM me if you have any suggestions for additions to/deletions from this first post.***
If you are reading this sentence, you are eligible to participate in our forum's latest decades lists project exploring the films of the 1970s. If you know anyone adventurous enough--on or off the forum--that you think would also enjoy participating, feel free to invite them as well.
Please PM me your list of what you believe are the top 50 films from the decade toward the end of the project. You may feel that you could compile a list of 50 favorite films from this period much earlier than the deadline, but it's still highly recommended that you engage in the discussions here. Don't keep your favorites a secret, and always be open to suggestions from others!
THE RULES
1) Each individual list is to comprise no more or less than 50 films, ranked in your order of preference (with no ties). If you haven't yet seen 50 films from the decade that you think are genuinely great (or even if you have), please take advantage of the resources listed below and participate in the ongoing discussions to find films that you can be proud to put on your list.
2) Any feature film, documentary, experimental film, short film, music video, TV miniseries, TV movie, or TV special released in the 1970s (1970-1979) is eligible.
3) The date given on IMDb is the relevant date for determining a film's year of release, even when it's clearly wrong (unless a special case is made below). If the film is not on IMDb and you say it was released during the 1970s, I'll take your word for it.
4) In certain cases, it may be appropriate for films that are technically separate to be combined, or for films that are technically combined to be separated. In such cases, you may vote for either a part or the whole, but bear in mind that all votes will be competing against each other (e.g. a vote for Ivan the Terrible Pt. 1 will not count toward the vote for Ivan the Terrible in the final tally). Generally, if multiple films are allowed to be combined for voting purposes, you should probably vote for them that way unless you are strongly opposed to doing so. The most common cases:
• Single-director multi-part films for which each segment was released separately (e.g. Feuillade's serials, Lang's two-part epics) may be considered as a single film. Films included in trilogies may not be combined.
• Variant edits: For films that exist in multiple versions (e.g. Welles' Mr. Arkadin, Rivette's Out 1), all votes that don't specify a "secondary" version will be counted toward the "primary" version.
• Portmanteau films: Each of the individual segments and the film as a whole are all separately eligible.
We may occasionally need to make a special case related to rule 3 or 4. If you are seriously considering including a film on your list that you have a question about in this regard, bring it up in this thread and we'll iron it out.
For more details about rules and procedures, please refer here.
ELIGIBILITY – REMINDERS / SPECIAL CASES
¡Qué viva México! is cited as a 1970s film on IMDb, but we made it eligible for our 1930s list so it is ineligible now.
The Other Side of the Wind is eligible as a 1970s film even though it was technically completed and released decades later.
Ruskin and The Ear are eligible as 1970s films, even though IMDb calls them 1990s films.
The Godfather and The Godfather Part II are two separate films.
The Ascent of Man and Life on Earth are eligible as miniseries, even though IMDb calls them TV series (which would normally be ineligible).
The following are examples of multi-part films that may be voted for as a single film, or each segment as a separate film, if you insist (with all votes competing against each other): The Emigrants/The New Land, Hapax Legomena, Battles Without Honor and Humanity, The Battle of Chile, Lester's Musketeers films
The following films may be cited as 1970s releases in some places, but not on IMDb, and so are not eligible for this list: The Sorrow and the Pity, The Honeymoon Killers, Eros + Massacre, Walden, The Gladiators, Medea, Smoking, Diary of a Shinjuku Thief, The Night of Counting the Years, Kes, Burn!, Poto and Cabengo, My Night at Maud's, Stations of the Elevated, The Falls, New York Portrait II, Confidence, Birds Orphans and Fools, Build a House Plant a Tree, How to Live, By Night with Torch and Spear, The Fog, The Beyond, Winter Wind, Breaker Morant
The following films are cited as 1970s films on IMDb, and so are eligible for this list, regardless of what anyone else might say: The Conformist, A Touch of Zen, The Wild Child, Days and Nights in the Forest, Le Vent d'est, La Rupture, Whity, Case for a Rookie Hangman, Du côté d'Orouët, Apotheosis, Bronco Bullfrog, Kustom Kar Kommandos, Hi Mom!, Adelheid, Gates of Heaven, Siberiade, Grass Labyrinth, King Lear (Kozintsev), Buffet froid, Autumn Marathon, Lucifer Rising, The Kremlin Letter, End of the Road, Les Choses de la vie, Tale of Tales, Two Wondrous Tigers, Gods of the Plague, Moscow Distrusts Tears, A Intrusa, Fruit of Paradise, L'Enfant secret
RESOURCES
Past Forum Discussions
Discussion from the Forum's Prior 1970s Project
Defending of Sad Pandas from the Forum's Prior 1970s Project
Discussion from the Forum's Western List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Musicals List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Horror List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Animation List Project
Discussion from the Forum's Shorts List Project
The Alternate Oscars: Best Picture 1969-Present
100 Russian and Eastern European Classics
Pakula, Coppola, and the 1970s Cinema of Paranoia
Japanese Cinema in the 1970s
Shaw Brothers & the 1970s
Forum Discussions of International DVDs
African / Bulgarian / Chinese / Cuban / Czech / Dutch / Finnish / German / Hungarian / Norwegian / Polish / Romanian / South American / Swedish / Turkish / Ukrainian / Yugoslavian
Forum Discussions of Filmmakers Active During the 1970s
Robert Aldrich / Woody Allen / Theo Angelopoulos / Michelangelo Antonioni / Dario Argento / Mario Bava / Ingmar Bergman / Bernardo Bertolucci / John Boorman / Robert Bresson / Luis Buñuel / John Carpenter / Claude Chabrol / Michael Cimino / Larry Cohen / Stuart Cooper / David Cronenberg / Brian de Palma / Rainer Werner Fassbinder / Federico Fellini / Freddie Francis / Jess Franco / John Frankenheimer / Georges Franju / Terry Gilliam / Jean-Luc Godard / Wojciech Has / Howard Hawks / Monte Hellman / Alfred Hitchcock / Dennis Hopper / John Huston / Shōhei Imamura / Otar Iosseliani / Krzysztof Kieślowski / Alexander Kluge / John Krish / Stanley Kubrick / Akira Kurosawa / David Lean / Sergio Leone / Joseph Losey / Sidney Lumet / David Lynch / Louis Malle / Joseph L. Mankiewicz / Jean-Pierre Melville / Hayao Miyazaki / Kira Muratova / Ermanno Olmi / Nagisa Ōshima / Pier Paolo Pasolini / Sam Peckinpah / Arthur Penn / Roman Polański / Otto Preminger / Satyajit Ray / Alain Resnais / Nicolas Roeg / George Romero / Francesco Rosi / Roberto Rossellini / Raúl Ruiz / John Schlesinger / Martin Scorsese / Ousmane Sembène / Don Siegel / Jerzy Skolimowski / Jan Švankmajer / Andrei Tarkovsky / Jacques Tati / Jan Troell / François Truffaut / Luchino Visconti / Andrzej Wajda / John Waters / Orson Welles / Billy Wilder / Fred Zinnemann / Valerio Zurlini
Forum Discussions of 1970s Films
And Soon the Darkness / Apocalypse Now / The Battle of Chile / The Beast / Big Nights and Small Mornings / Blue Collar / The Brood / The Conformist / Dynamite Chicken / Emperor of the North Pole / Fingers / The Godfather I & II / Hard Times / Hot Tomorrows / Johnny Got His Gun / Last Tango in Paris / Little Murders / The Marcus Nelson Murders / Mikey & Nicky / The Monk / Nashville / Next Stop, Greenwich Village / 1900 / 99 and 44/100% Dead / No Lies… / On the Silver Globe / Orderers / The Other Side of the Wind / The Outfit / The Passenger / Phantasm / Rituals / Rolling Thunder / Some Call It Loving / Stalker / Stop / Suspiria / Taxi Driver / 10 Rillington Place / Thundercrack! / Twilight's Last Gleaming / Vanishing Point / Wake in Fright / The Wedding Trough / The World at War
Guides Within This Thread
Do you feel you have an especially informed opinion about the work during the 1970s from a particular director, country, genre, etc.? Many people here would greatly appreciate your taking the time to prepare a guide for navigating through all that's available. (Though they do not necessarily need to be comprehensive.) Guides are especially welcome for extremely prolific directors/movements, or to summarize availability for films (such as shorts) that are often hidden away on releases for other films or only available on the web. Past examples: Director Guide, Country Guide, Genre Guide, DVD Availability Guide
zedz on the UK
knives on Ashby, Schlesinger, Bava, and Jaglom, Huston, Ritchie, Malle, and Bartel, Jewison, Van Peebles, Cassavetes, and Antonioni, Hill, De Palma, Penn, and Frankenheimer
domino harvey on Cybill Shepherd, Pakula, Bogdanovich
bamwc2 on Pasolini, Altman, Russell, Cronenberg, Carpenter, Cohen
YnEoS on Joseph Kuo Nam Hung, Golden Harvest comedies, Lee Tso Nam, Goldig Films, more Golden Harvest films
AWAITING FURTHER GUIDES
External Resources
A list of films from the 1970s appearing on They Shoot Pictures, Don't They's Top 1000 or Doubling the Canon lists
(This list is by no means comprehensive, but can serve as a good reminder of some of the more prominent films that are eligible from this decade. Conversely, if you love a film that doesn't show up here, that might be a good indicator that it could use an extra push.)
National lists
AWAITING FURTHER SUGGESTIONS
Recommended Reading
Lost Illusions: American Cinema in the Shadow of Watergate and Vietnam, 1970-1979, David A. Cook
Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex-Drugs-and-Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood, Peter Biskind
AWAITING FURTHER SUGGESTIONS
FORUM MEMBER SPOTLIGHTS
Is there a film you love that you fear is under most people's radar? Try shining a light on it! To inaugurate a film into the spotlight section, just follow these three simple steps:
1. Make a post about the film discussing why you find it so exceptional.
2. Clearly indicate that you wish the film to be one of your spotlight titles.
3. Direct others to where the film can be found.
I'll keep track of all the spotlight titles here so that they can be easily referenced. You're welcome to have more than one spotlight title, but try not to have too many more, so it's manageable for everyone to be able to see them all.
Everyone is strongly encouraged to give each of these films the same chance that you would hope others would give your own spotlight titles.
The Place Without Limits (Arturo Ripstein) (knives)
The Maids (Christopher Miles) (knives)
Black Roots (Lionel Rogosin) (knives)
The Dupes (Tewfik Saleh) (thirtyframesasecond)
Sounder (Martin Ritt) (bamwc2)
The Silent Partner (Daryl Duke) (bamwc2)
Family Life (Ken Loach) (zedz)
The Nail of Brightness (Lino Brocka) (Wu.Qinghua)
At Long Last Love (Peter Bogdanovich) (domino harvey)
Wrong Move (Wim Wenders) (domino harvey)
Alex in Wonderland (Paul Mazursky) (life_boy)
The Stone Wedding (Mircea Veroiu & Dan Pița) (swo17)
The Green Wall (Armando Robles Godoy) (the preacher)
Duvidha (Mani Kaul) (swo17)
AWAITING FURTHER SUGGESTIONS
DESPERATELY SEEKING SO AND SO
Is there a film you're dying to see but you've exhausted all possible avenues for finding it and still come up short? List it here and perhaps some kind soul will be able to direct you to a copy by PM. Please limit listings here to only a few films that you're most desperate to see.
swo17 is seeking:
Mathias Kneissl (Reinhard Hauff)
La Maison du bois (Maurice Pialat) w/ English subs
Doomed Love (Manoel de Oliveira) w/ English subs
Where Spring Comes Late (Yōji Yamada) w/ English subs
bamwc2 is seeking:
Blanche (Walerian Borowczyk)
The Little Theater of Jean Renoir (Jean Renoir)
Shirley Thompson vs The Aliens (Jim Sharman)
Eadweard Muybridge, Zoopraxographer (Thom Andersen)
Without Anesthesia (Andrzej Wajda)
RobertAltman is seeking:
The Gravy Train (Jack Starrett)
Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street (Samuel Fuller)
The Set-Up (Kathryn Bigelow)
knives is seeking:
Lorsque le bateau de Léon M. descendit la Meuse pour la première fois (Dardenne brothers)
Le chant du rossignol (Dardenne brothers)
***Please PM me if you have any suggestions for additions to/deletions from this first post.***