1980s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol. 3)

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1126 Post by swo17 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:14 pm

I was thinking I might post the results tonight at around midnight MDT in the U.S. Is there anyone still working on a list that would rather I wait until tomorrow morning?

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1127 Post by domino harvey » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:40 pm

If you wait til after Midnight, the list turns into a Gremlin/pumpkin/comedy third answer

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1128 Post by bamwc2 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:19 pm

domino harvey wrote:One of my fondest film-watching memories ever is viewing the Stepfather on IFC years ago with my ex-girlfriend and both of us exclaiming "OH SHIT!" at the same time during that justly infamous moment
I saw the film, but can't think of what you might mean other than Terry O'Quinn's nude shower scene. Spoiler reminder, please?

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1129 Post by domino harvey » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:21 pm

SpoilerShow
When Quinn messes up his phony backstories and gives a horrifying pregnant pause before uttering, "Who am I here?"

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1130 Post by swo17 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:09 pm

I'm enjoying picturing that it was actually prompted by Terry O'Quinn casually taking a shower.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1131 Post by bamwc2 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:11 pm

swo17 wrote:I'm enjoying picturing that it was actually prompted by Terry O'Quinn casually taking a shower.
I was going for a joke, but I suppose that it may have come off sounding a bit...homophobic. Not my intention. However, if you seen the movie (actually it's the opening scene), then you'd realize that the shower is anything but casual.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1132 Post by swo17 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:15 pm

You're forgetting that domino and his ex originally connected after mutually lamenting the lack of movie scenes in which Terry O'Quinn keeps himself nice and clean.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1133 Post by bamwc2 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:16 pm

There were no showers on the Lost island.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1134 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:25 am

I was hoping swo would post the list at 80 minutes past midnight but then he went and disappointed all of us yet again

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1135 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:33 am

There are a few West Coasters that are still fitting in more viewings tonight, so I'll be posting the results in the morning. (Mountain time, which in domino time is never.)

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1136 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:14 am

Many thanks to everyone for your participation in this latest round of the lists project! I'll be releasing the results shortly in the next three posts. Here again is a guide to what the figures listed after each film represent, each separated with a slash mark:

1. Total points (50 for each #1 placement, 49 for each #2, etc.)
2. Number of lists the film appeared on (out of 34 submitted). If the film appeared in anyone's top 10, the number of top 10 appearances is also denoted in parentheses.
3. Highest placement of the film on any one list. If more than one person ranked the film this high, this is also denoted in parentheses.
4. Change in position from the 2008 list, with movements of 10 or more highlighted.

So for example, the 270/11(3)/5(x2)/+3 shown for The Thing means that it scored 270 points and appeared on eleven lists (and three top 10s), with two people ranking it as high as #5. The film also moved up three positions from its placement on the 2008 list.

For the list of orphans, only figure #3 is displayed (the highest rank, not the score given).

If anyone would like me to PM them a list of how all of their picks fared in the overall tally (rather than having to scour through all of the results) it's a simple thing for me to do. Just let me know.

I'll unlock the 1990s thread in the next day or so. In the meantime, feel free to continue discussion in this thread regarding the results of the 1980s project and to share your individual lists (including defenses of your poor-faring favorites). But in doing so, please keep in mind this thing that I wrote for a prior project, which more or less still applies:
As for the list being safe, that's only true perhaps if you refuse to look beyond the top 100 films. If you're familiar with the law of large numbers, it's inevitable that when you start compiling upwards of 30 lists, it's going to start to look pretty homogenized. We had 34 lists submitted this time. There were 29 last time, and I'm guessing 20-23 the first time. For the first iteration of the list in 2005, a film had to have just 64 points to make the top 100. The top 86 also-rans this time have at least that many points. At various points in the tabulation process, many of those films were included in the top 100. But when you add enough other lists, these films start to get replaced by films that we're generally all familiar with, and that a relatively large number of people like, but few enough to place them terribly high on their lists. I think the most interesting picks are the ones that have very strong support from just two or three people, but two or three voters can only give out so many points, and these films are always going to have a difficult time making the top 100 as long as more than 30 people are voting. I've actually looked back at the results of various lists and it's pretty consistent that the number of points a film will need to make the top 100 is close to 3.5 times the number of people participating.

Honestly, when I'm compiling, there are generally very few lists submitted that are strictly composed of mainstream, safe choices. And even if someone were to submit a list that was like 49 of every mainstream, obvious movie that I hate plus one film that I only came to know of and treasure because of their recommendation during this project, I would be glad that that person participated.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1137 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:14 am

The 1980s List

01. Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989) 672/20(11)/2/+6
02. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986) 608/19(8)/2/+3
03. Fanny and Alexander (Ingmar Bergman, 1982) 578/16(6)/1(x2)/-2
04. Sans soleil (Chris Marker, 1983) 525/17(5)/2(x2)/+19
05. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1980) 515/14(6)/2(x2)/+7
06. Come and See (Elem Klimov, 1985) 462/14(6)/1/+3
07. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983) 461/14(8)/2/+8
08. L'Argent (Robert Bresson, 1983) 436/13(4)/1/+6
09. Ran (Akira Kurosawa, 1985) 407/14(5)/1/-7
10. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980) 405/14(6)/1/-4
11. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980) 402/13(7)/1/-7
12. My Neighbour Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988) 378/16(2)/5/+39
13. Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, 1987) 374/11(4)/4/--
14. Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders, 1984) 344/13(2)/5(x2)/+6
15. Veronika Voss (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1982) 338/11(4)/5/-4
16. À nos amours (Maurice Pialat, 1983) 333/10(2)/3/+8
17. Grave of the Fireflies (Isao Takahata, 1988) 321/12(3)/1/+39
18. Terrorizers (Edward Yang, 1986) 295/9(2)/1/+47
19. The Elephant Man (David Lynch, 1980) 294/10(2)/1/+16
20. Dekalog (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1988) 292/8(3)/2/-10
21. Blade Runner (Ridley Scott, 1982) 283/10(4)/7(x2)/-18
(tie) Alice (Jan Švankmajer, 1988) 283/11(3)/6/+21
23. The Thing (John Carpenter, 1982) 270/11(3)/5(x2)/+3
24. The King of Comedy (Martin Scorsese, 1983) 262/10(1)/2/-7
25. Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog, 1982) 260/11(2)/1/-17
26. Blow Out (Brian De Palma, 1981) 258/9(2)/2/+34
27. Possession (Andrzej Żuławski, 1981) 250/8(3)/2/+35
(tie) Stranger Than Paradise (Jim Jarmusch, 1984) 250/8(4)/3/+19
29. Love Streams (John Cassavetes, 1984) 248/7(3)/7(x2)/New
(tie) Brazil (Terry Gilliam, 1985) 248/10(3)/1/-1
31. The Purple Rose of Cairo (Woody Allen, 1985) 244/9(3)/2/+8
32. Where Is the Friend's Home? (Abbas Kiarostami, 1987) 239/10(2)/1/+59
33. Dead Ringers (David Cronenberg, 1988) 238/9(2)/9(x2)/-2
34. Heaven's Gate (Michael Cimino, 1980) 234/6(4)/1(x2)/+42
35. Broadcast News (James Brooks, 1987) 233/6(3)/4/+158
36. Black Rain (Shōhei Imamura, 1989) 232/8(2)/1/+9
(tie) The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1986) 232/7(2)/3/-18
38. Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters (Paul Schrader, 1985) 225/9(3)/6/+12
39. Mauvais sang (Leos Carax, 1986) 222/6(3)/3/+65
(tie) City of Pirates (Raúl Ruiz, 1983) 222/6(2)/2/+62
41. Robocop (Paul Verhoeven, 1987) 217/8(1)/9/+74
(tie) Nostalghia (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1983) 217/10(1)/2/--
43. A City of Sadness (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1989) 215/7(2)/6/+37
44. El sur (Víctor Erice, 1983) 211/7(1)/1/New
45. Le Pont du Nord (Jacques Rivette, 1981) 210/7(2)/3/+126
46. After Hours (Martin Scorsese, 1985) 202/8(2)/1/-7
(tie) Crimes and Misdemeanors (Woody Allen, 1989) 202/8(2)/2/-25
(tie) Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg, 1981) 202/9(1)/2/-14
49. Pee Wee's Big Adventure (Tim Burton, 1985) 201/6(3)/3/+160
50. Vagabond (Agnès Varda, 1985) 197/10(1)/5/-23
51. The Fly (David Cronenberg, 1986) 191/6(4)/1/+11
52. Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (Todd Haynes, 1987) 189/8/12/-19
53. Modern Romance (Albert Brooks, 1981) 185/6(3)/5/+71
54. Die Hard (John McTiernan, 1988) 184/8(2)/2/+54
55. Au revoir les enfants (Louis Malle, 1987) 183/6(3)/1/+21
(tie) The Right Stuff (Philip Kaufman, 1983) 183/7(3)/8(x2)/-36
57. Chameleon Street (Wendell Harris, 1989) 179/7(2)/7/+217
58. Broadway Danny Rose (Woody Allen, 1984) 177/5(2)/4/-21
59. Shoah (Claude Lanzmann, 1985) 174/7(3)/1(x2)/+71
(tie) Body Double (Brian De Palma, 1984) 174/6(2)/1/+51
(tie) The Ballad of Narayama (Shōhei Imamura, 1983) 174/8(1)/9/+26
62. This Is Spinal Tap (Rob Reiner, 1984) 168/7(2)/5/-16
63. They All Laughed (Peter Bogdanovich, 1981) 165/5(2)/1/+5
64. The Vanishing (George Sluizer, 1988) 163/7(2)/7/-6
65. Chocolat (Claire Denis, 1988) 161/4(2)/3/+77
66. The Asthenic Syndrome (Kira Muratova, 1989) 158/5(2)/8/+28
(tie) My Dinner with Andre (Louis Malle, 1981) 158/8(1)/3/-10
68. Sherman's March (Ross McElwee, 1986) 157/7(2)/2/-35
69. Amadeus (Miloš Forman, 1984) 152/6(2)/4/+27
70. Dimensions of Dialogue (Jan Švankmajer, 1982) 151/5/13/+90
71. Mystery Train (Jim Jarmusch, 1989) 149/4(2)/7/-4
72. Cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988) 148/5(1)/3/+78
(tie) Landscape in the Mist (Theodoros Angelopoulos, 1988) 148/7(1)/8/-28
74. Comrades (Bill Douglas, 1986) 147/4(1)/5/+81
75. The Seventh Continent (Michael Haneke, 1989) 144/5(2)/8/+59
(tie) Blood Simple (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1984) 144/7(1)/4/-39
77. The Thin Blue Line (Errol Morris, 1988) 143/5(1)/6/-23
78. A Short Film About Love (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1988) 141/5/13/+53
79. Yellow Earth (Chen Kaige, 1984) 136/4(2)/6/+132
80. Heimat (Edgar Reitz, 1984) 135/3(2)/2/+48
(tie) The Empire Strikes Back (Irvin Kershner, 1980) 135/6(1)/10/-14
82. Distant Voices, Still Lives (Terence Davies, 1988) 134/6(1)/2/-21
83. The Falls (Peter Greenaway, 1980) 133/3(2)/1/-1
(tie) Taipei Story (Edward Yang, 1985) 133/3(2)/3/New
(tie) The Last Temptation of Christ (Martin Scorsese, 1988) 133/5(1)/10/-2
86. Fire Festival (Mitsuo Yanagimachi, 1985) 132/4(1)/2/New
87. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial (Steven Spielberg, 1982) 131/4(1)/2/+11
88. The Aviator's Wife (Éric Rohmer, 1981) 130/4(1)/2/-12
89. Stardust Memories (Woody Allen, 1980) 129/3(2)/6/-13
90. Full Metal Jacket (Stanley Kubrick, 1987) 127/8(1)/8/-68
91. Radio Days (Woody Allen, 1987) 126/9(1)/9/-22
92. Sex, Lies, and Videotape (Steven Soderbergh, 1989) 125/4(1)/3/+24
(tie) Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Hayao Miyazaki, 1984) 125/5(1)/8/New
94. Ms. 45 (Abel Ferrara, 1981) 124/3(1)/6/New
95. Thief (Michael Mann, 1981) 123/5/13/New
(tie) Hannah and Her Sisters (Woody Allen, 1986) 123/6/18/-57
97. Excalibur (John Boorman, 1981) 119/5(1)/1/+91
98. Manoël on the Island of Marvels (Raúl Ruiz, 1984) 117/4(2)/1/New
(tie) Johanna d'Arc of Mongolia (Ulrike Ottinger, 1989) 117/3(1)/1/New
(tie) House of Games (David Mamet, 1987) 117/5/13/-1
(tie) Body Heat (Lawrence Kasdan, 1981) 117/5/12/New


Top Directors

Woody Allen (9 films, 1138 points)
Martin Scorsese (5 films, 999 points)
Rainer Werner Fassbinder (5 films, 983 points)
David Cronenberg (4 films, 908 points)
David Lynch (2 films, 902 points)
Wim Wenders (5 films, 840 points)
Spike Lee (2 films, 692 points)
Hayao Miyazaki (4 films, 616 points)
Brian De Palma (5 films, 581 points)
Ingmar Bergman (1 film, 578 points)

Stanley Kubrick (2 films, 532 points)
Chris Marker (1 film, 525 points)
Maurice Pialat (4 films, 521 points)
Krzysztof Kieślowski (5 films, 520 points)
Jan Švankmajer (4 films, 506 points)
Peter Greenaway (6 films, 504 points)
Akira Kurosawa (2 films, 501 points)
Éric Rohmer (7 films, 500 points)
Elem Klimov (2 films, 497 points)
Jim Jarmusch (3 films, 486 points)

Raúl Ruiz (6 films, 485 points)
Steven Spielberg (5 films, 469 points)
Andrei Tarkovsky (2 films, 449 points)
Robert Bresson (1 film, 436 points)
Edward Yang (2 films, 428 points)
John Carpenter (6 films, 425 points)
Shōhei Imamura (3 films, 421 points)
Jean-Luc Godard (8 films, 410 points)
Hou Hsiao-hsien (5 films, 405 points)
Jacques Rivette (5 films, 374 points)

Louis Malle (3 films, 358 points)
Werner Herzog (3 films, 333 points)
Terry Gilliam (3 films, 325 points)
Isao Takahata (1 film, 321 points)
Philip Kaufman (2 films, 299 points)
Tim Burton (3 films, 296 points)
Ridley Scott (1 film, 283 points)
Leos Carax (2 films, 280 points)
John McTiernan (2 films, 280 points)
Paul Schrader (3 films, 273 points)

John Cassavetes (2 films, 252 points)
Andrzej Żuławski (1 film, 250 points)
Abbas Kiarostami (1 film, 239 points)
Michael Cimino (1 film, 234 points)
James Brooks (1 film, 233 points)
Agnès Varda (2 films, 228 points)
Joel & Ethan Coen (2 films, 225 points)
Albert Brooks (2 films, 221 points)
Paul Verhoeven (2 films, 221 points)
Víctor Erice (1 film, 211 points)


Results by Country

USA (274 films, 43.4% of points)
France (106 films, 19.8% of points)
West Germany (46 films, 8.9% of points)
UK (78 films, 8% of points)
Japan (44 films, 7.9% of points)
Italy (32 films, 4.8% of points)
Switzerland (14 films, 3.2% of points)
Canada (17 films, 2.9% of points)
USSR (15 films, 2.3% of points)
Sweden (6 films, 2.1% of points)

Hong Kong (21 films, 2.1% of points)
Taiwan (8 films, 2% of points)
Spain (15 films, 1.8% of points)
Poland (13 films, 1.7% of points)
Portugal (8 films, 1.5% of points)
Czechoslovakia (6 films, 1.3% of points)
Hungary (10 films, 1% of points)
China (5 films, 1% of points)
Iran (4 films, 0.8% of points)
Netherlands (7 films, 0.7% of points)

Australia (10 films, 0.6% of points)
Austria (4 films, 0.5% of points)
Cameroon (1 film, 0.4% of points)
New Zealand (3 films, 0.4% of points)
Greece (1 film, 0.3% of points)
Denmark (4 films, 0.3% of points)
Finland (3 films, 0.3% of points)
Tunisia (2 films, 0.3% of points)
Cuba (2 films, 0.2% of points)
Yugoslavia (4 films, 0.2% of points)

Algeria (1 film, 0.2% of points)
Senegal (1 film, 0.2% of points)
Mexico (3 films, 0.2% of points)
Belgium (2 films, 0.2% of points)
Turkey (1 film, 0.2% of points)
India (2 films, 0.2% of points)
Philippines (2 films, 0.2% of points)
Brazil (2 films, 0.2% of points)
South Korea (2 films, 0.2% of points)
Ghana (1 film, 0.2% of points)

Mali (0 film, 0.1% of points)
Burkina Faso (0 film, 0.1% of points)
Vietnam (0 film, 0.1% of points)
Thailand (0 film, 0.1% of points)
Argentina (0 film, 0.1% of points)
Ireland (0 film, 0.1% of points)
Peru (0 film, <0.1% of points)
Zimbabwe (0 film, <0.1% of points)
Israel (0 film, <0.1% of points)
Norway (0 film, <0.1% of points)


Results by Year

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Casualties from the 2008 List

16. Once Upon a Time in America (now an also-ran)
25. Down by Law (now an also-ran)
29. The Dead (now an also-ran)
30. Zelig (now an also-ran)
43. Atlantic City (now an also-ran)
48. Something Wild (now an also-ran)
49. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (now an also-ran)
51. Three Crowns of the Sailor (now an orphan)
53. Koyaanisqatsi (now an also-ran)
55. Pauline at the Beach (now an also-ran)
59. Street of Crocodiles (now an also-ran)
64. The Unbearable Lightness of Being (now an also-ran)
70. Santa sangre (now an also-ran)
71. The Green Ray (now an also-ran)
71. Bad Timing (now an also-ran)
73. Aliens (now an also-ran)
74. Lola (now an also-ran)
74. Mon oncle d'Amérique (now an also-ran)
83. Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (now an also-ran)
84. Raising Arizona (now an also-ran)
85. Gang of Four (now an also-ran)
87. The Killer (now an also-ran)
87. A Zed & Two Noughts (now an also-ran)
89. The Big Red One (now an also-ran)
90. Lost in America (now an also-ran)
92. The Draughtsman's Contract (now an also-ran)
92. My Beautiful Laundrette (now an also-ran)
94. A Short Film About Killing (now voteless)
98. Détective (now an also-ran)
98. Elephant (now an also-ran)

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1138 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:15 am

Also-Rans

The Unbearable Lightness of Being (Philip Kaufman, 1988) 116/5/18/-38
Withnail & I (Bruce Robinson, 1987) 114/7/14/+69
Kiki's Delivery Service (Hayao Miyazaki, 1989) 110/3(2)/4/New
The Green Ray (Éric Rohmer, 1986) 109/5(2)/6(x2)/-34
Hail Mary (Jean-Luc Godard, 1985) 109/4(2)/9/+91
Détective (Jean-Luc Godard, 1985) 109/5/12/-7
The Killer (John Woo, 1989) 108/4(1)/7/-21
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (Peter Greenaway, 1989) 107/5(1)/6/-60
Something Wild (Jonathan Demme, 1986) 105/4(1)/8/-62

The Draughtsman's Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982) 103/3(1)/6/-19
Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence (Nagisa Ōshima, 1983) 103/4/19/New
Boat People (Ann Hui, 1982) 101/3(1)/10/New
Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone, 1984) 100/5(1)/8/-98
Born on the Fourth of July (Oliver Stone, 1989) 99/3(1)/10/New
Back to the Future (Robert Zemeckis, 1985) 98/4(1)/6/+28
Horse Thief (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 1986) 98/5/17/+9
The Man Who Planted Trees (Frédéric Back, 1987) 97/2(2)/1/New
Bad Timing (Nicolas Roeg, 1980) 97/5/11/-47
Predator (John McTiernan, 1987) 96/3(1)/8/New

The Terminator (James Cameron, 1984) 95/5(1)/8/+101
Prénom Carmen (Jean-Luc Godard, 1983) 94/3(1)/6/-4
Kagemusha (Akira Kurosawa, 1980) 94/3(1)/10/+5
Rumble Fish (Francis Ford Coppola, 1983) 93/3/13/+13
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (Pedro Almodóvar, 1988) 93/4/14/-41
Dorian Gray as Represented in the Popular Press (Ulrike Ottinger, 1984) 92/3(2)/3/New
The Big Red One (Samuel Fuller, 1980) 92/3(1)/4/-37
Camp de Thiaroye (Ousmane Sembène, 1988) 92/3(1)/3/New
Dust in the Wind (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1987) 92/3/17/+92
Lola (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1981) 92/4(1)/10/-52

Red Sorghum (Zhang Yimou, 1987) 91/4(1)/6/-11
The Territory (Raúl Ruiz, 1981) 89/2(1)/1/New
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (Steven Spielberg, 1984) 89/3/12/New
The Moon in the Gutter (Jean-Jacques Beineix, 1983) 88/2(1)/2/New
Down by Law (Jim Jarmusch, 1986) 87/7/29/-110
Hairspray (John Waters, 1988) 86/2(1)/4/+28
Yol (Serif Gören & Yilmaz Güney, 1982) 86/2(1)/4/+5
The Eighties (Chantal Akerman, 1983) 84/2(1)/6/New
Under the Sun of Satan (Maurice Pialat, 1987) 84/3(1)/7/+76
Matador (Pedro Almodóvar, 1986) 81/3/14/+19

Day of the Dead (George Romero, 1985) 81/3/17/+42
Raising Arizona (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1987) 81/4/15/-56
Mad Max 2 (George Miller, 1981) 81/4/23(x2)/+22
The Sword (Patrick Tam, 1980) 80/2(1)/7/New
Tenebre (Dario Argento, 1982) 80/3/17/New
My Twentieth Century (Ildikó Enyedi, 1989) 80/3/20/New
Near Death (Frederick Wiseman, 1989) 80/4/20(x2)/+111
The Annunciation (András Jeles, 1984) 79/2(1)/10/New
My Brother's Wedding (Charles Burnett, 1983) 79/3/11/+71
Sleepwalk (Sara Driver, 1986) 79/3(1)/9/New

Das Boot (Wolfgang Petersen, 1981) 79/5/18/-29
The Last Emperor (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1987) 78/3(1)/5/+17
Conan the Barbarian (John Milius, 1982) 78/3/16/New
Popeye (Robert Altman, 1980) 77/4/16/New
Street of Crocodiles (Stephen & Timothy Quay, 1986) 75/2(1)/7/-96
Farewell to the Land (Mitsuo Yanagimachi, 1982) 74/2(1)/9/New
Boyfriends and Girlfriends (Éric Rohmer, 1987) 74/2/13/-10
The Little Mermaid (Ron Clements & John Musker, 1989) 74/4/22/New
The Unbelievable Truth (Hal Hartley, 1989) 73/2(1)/8/New
The State of Things (Wim Wenders, 1982) 73/4(1)/1/New

Water and Power (Pat O'Neill, 1989) 73/3/17/New
Ariel (Aki Kaurismäki, 1988) 73/3/24/+125
For All Mankind (Al Reinert, 1989) 72/2/13/New
Coup de torchon (Bertrand Tavernier, 1981) 72/4/13/-42
Aliens (James Cameron, 1986) 71/3(1)/3/-92
Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan, 1986) 71/2/15/+111
Runaway Train (Andrei Konchalovsky, 1985) 70/3(1)/10/-24
The Belly of an Architect (Peter Greenaway, 1987) 70/3/16/-4
High Hopes (Mike Leigh, 1988) 70/3/23/+40
Four Adventures of Reinette and Mirabelle (Éric Rohmer, 1987) 70/4/25/New

Diner (Barry Levinson, 1982) 69/4/23/New
The Hunger (Tony Scott, 1983) 68/2(1)/9/+108
Jean de Florette/Manon des sources (Claude Berri, 1986) 68/3/20/-37
Gang of Four (Jacques Rivette, 1989) 68/6/16/-87
Mon oncle d'Amérique (Alain Resnais, 1980) 68/5/22/-98
Eight Diagram Pole Fighter (Liu Chia-liang, 1984) 67/2(1)/9/New
New York Portrait: Part II (Peter Hutton, 1981) 67/2/15/New
Cobra Verde (Werner Herzog, 1987) 67/3/22/+4
The Verdict (Sidney Lumet, 1982) 66/3/12/-66
Magdalena Viraga (Nina Menkes, 1986) 65/2/11/New

Manhunter (Michael Mann, 1986) 65/4/22/-77
American Dreams (Lost and Found) (James Benning, 1984) 64/2(1)/5/New
The Cry of the Owl (Claude Chabrol, 1987) 63/2(1)/6/New
Blood Wedding (Carlos Saura, 1981) 63/2/15/+1
Missing (Costa-Gavras, 1982) 63/2/16/+43
Eight Men Out (John Sayles, 1988) 63/3/21/-44
The Last American Virgin (Boaz Davidson, 1982) 62/2(1)/2/New
Damnation (Béla Tarr, 1988) 62/3/11/-39
Mandala (Im Kwon-taek, 1981) 62/2/19/New
They Live (John Carpenter, 1988) 62/2/19/New

Zelig (Woody Allen, 1983) 62/4/17/-157
The Last of England (Derek Jarman, 1988) 61/2(1)/5/New
A Good Marriage (Éric Rohmer, 1982) 61/2(1)/8/+43
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (Terry Gilliam, 1988) 61/2/12/+40
The Breakfast Club (John Hughes, 1985) 61/2/18/New
Loulou (Maurice Pialat, 1980) 61/4/18/+51
Warsaw Bridge (Pere Portabella, 1989) 60/2/18/New
Time of the Gypsies (Emir Kusturica, 1989) 58/2(1)/3/+12
Boy Meets Girl (Leos Carax, 1984) 58/2(1)/9/+50
Gremlins (Joe Dante, 1984) 58/3/18/-41

Mephisto (István Szabó, 1981) 57/2/19/+51
As Tears Go By (Wong Kar-wai, 1988) 56/2(1)/3/+77
Tampopo (Jūzō Itami, 1985) 56/2(1)/5/+19
The Untouchables (Brian De Palma, 1987) 56/2(1)/6/-24
Local Hero (Bill Forsyth, 1983) 56/3(1)/10/-97
Night on the Galactic Railroad (Gisaburō Sugii, 1985) 56/2/13/New
Elephant (Alan Clarke, 1989) 56/3/12/-104
The Long Good Friday (John Mackenzie, 1980) 55/2/17/+41
Sound and Fury (Jean-Claude Brisseau, 1988) 55/3/21/New
Zu: Warriors from the Magic Mountain (Tsui Hark, 1983) 54/2(1)/9/New

Beetlejuice (Tim Burton, 1988) 54/3/21/+57
The Killing Fields (Roland Joffé, 1984) 53/2(1)/5/New
Merry-Go-Round (Jacques Rivette, 1981) 53/2/21/New
Class Relations (Jean-Marie Straub & Daniêle Huillet, 1984) 53/3/28/New
Routine Pleasures (Jean-Pierre Gorin, 1986) 52/2(1)/10/New
Cutter's Way (Ivan Passer, 1981) 52/2/18/-109
Burden of Dreams (Les Blank, 1982) 52/2/19/-40
Akira (Katsuhiro Ōtomo, 1988) 51/3(1)/10/-12
Another Woman (Woody Allen, 1988) 51/2/12/New
Matewan (John Sayles, 1987) 51/2/15/-51

The Home and the World (Satyajit Ray, 1984) 51/3/31(x2)/New
Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma, 1980) 50/2/11/-19
A Zed & Two Noughts (Peter Greenaway, 1985) 50/3/26/-135
Choose Me (Alan Rudolph, 1984) 49/2(1)/7/-84
The Times of Harvey Milk (Rob Epstein, 1984) 49/4/24/New
Repo Man (Alex Cox, 1984) 49/3/31/-66
Paperhouse (Bernard Rose, 1988) 48/2/13/New
Inferno (Dario Argento, 1980) 48/3/19/New
Diva (Jean-Jacques Beineix, 1981) 47/2/15/-29
Danton (Andrzej Wajda, 1983) 47/2/16/New

The Cat (Dominik Graf, 1988) 47/2/23/New
A Christmas Story (Bob Clark, 1983) 46/2/20/-85
Coal Miner's Daughter (Michael Apted, 1980) 46/3/28/New
Secret Honor (Robert Altman, 1984) 45/2(1)/8/-40
Under the Volcano (John Huston, 1984) 45/2/16/-108
White Dog (Samuel Fuller, 1982) 45/2/26/New
El amor brujo (Carlos Saura, 1986) 44/2/20/New
Out of the Blue (Dennis Hopper, 1980) 44/2/20/New
A Summer at Grandpa's (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1984) 44/2/28/-48
Working Girl (Mike Nichols, 1988) 43/2/14/New

Police (Maurice Pialat, 1985) 43/2/27/-108
Scarface (Brian De Palma, 1983) 43/2/29/+41
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (Robert Zemeckis, 1988) 43/3/24/-61
The Key (Ebrahim Forouzesh, 1987) 42/2/16/New
The Element of Crime (Lars von Trier, 1984) 42/2/18/-49
When the Wind Blows (Jimmy Murakami, 1986) 42/3/31/New
Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio, 1983) 42/4/37/-191
Moonlighting (Jerzy Skolimowski, 1982) 41/3/12/-92
Rouge (Stanley Kwan, 1987) 41/2/28/New
Drowning by Numbers (Peter Greenaway, 1988) 41/2/29/New

Typhoon Club (Shinji Sōmai, 1985) 40/2/16/New
Evil Dead II (Sam Raimi, 1987) 40/3/30/-46
The Stepfather (Joseph Ruben, 1987) 39/2/17/New
Legend of the Forest (Osamu Tezuka, 1987) 39/2/18/New
Southern Comfort (Walter Hill, 1981) 39/2/20/New
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton, 1986) 39/2/23/New
Sophie's Place (Lawrence Jordan, 1986) 39/2/28/New
Leningrad Cowboys Go America (Aki Kaurismäki, 1989) 39/2/29/New
The Legend of Suram Fortress (Sergei Parajanov & Dodo Abashidze, 1984) 39/3/30/+10
Landscape Suicide (James Benning, 1987) 38/2/29/New

Poltergeist (Tobe Hooper, 1982) 38/3/30/New
Carmen (Carlos Saura, 1983) 37/2/28/New
My Life as a Dog (Lasse Hallström, 1985) 36/2/22/+22
Kiss of the Spider Woman (Hector Babenco, 1985) 36/2/23/New
Lost in America (Albert Brooks, 1985) 36/3/20/-173
The Name of the Rose (Jean-Jacques Annaud, 1986) 36/2/29/New
Prince of the City (Sidney Lumet, 1981) 35/2/16/-59
The Constant Factor (Krzysztof Zanussi, 1980) 35/2/23/New
Poto and Cabengo (Jean-Pierre Gorin, 1980) 34/2/19/-39
Peking Opera Blues (Tsui Hark, 1986) 34/2/25/New

Prince of Darkness (John Carpenter, 1987) 34/2/33/New
Tetsuo: The Iron Man (Shinya Tsukamoto, 1989) 34/2/33/+18
Story of Women (Claude Chabrol, 1988) 33/2/12/New
Streets of Fire (Walter Hill, 1984) 33/2/21/New
The Naked Gun (David Zucker, 1988) 33/2/31/New
Rosa Luxemburg (Margarethe von Trotta, 1986) 31/2/25/New
Platoon (Oliver Stone, 1986) 31/3/27/-99
Garlic Is as Good as Ten Mothers (Les Blank, 1980) 31/2/28/New
Looks and Smiles (Ken Loach, 1981) 30/2/32/New
Lucas (David Seltzer, 1986) 30/2/35/New

Eating Raoul (Paul Bartel, 1982) 29/2/26/New
My Beautiful Laundrette (Stephen Frears, 1985) 28/2/30/-190
El norte (Gregory Nava, 1983) 28/2/36/-13
A Fish Called Wanda (Charles Crichton, 1988) 27/2/31/-114
Family Life (Jacques Doillon, 1985) 26/2/27/New
Tenue de soirée (Bertrand Blier, 1986) 26/2/28/New
Sauve qui peut (la vie) (Jean-Luc Godard, 1980) 25/2/37/-90
Santa sangre (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1989) 25/2/38/-217
Witnesses (Marcel Łoziński, 1988) 24/2/37/New
Ordinary People (Robert Redford, 1980) 23/3/33/New

Mélo (Alain Resnais, 1986) 23/2/34/New
A Tale of the Wind (Joris Ivens, 1988) 23/2/34/New
L'Ange (Patrick Bokanowski, 1983) 23/2/36/New
The Dead (John Huston, 1987) 22/2/32/-265
Big Trouble in Little China (John Carpenter, 1986) 22/2/37/New
And the Ship Sails On (Federico Fellini, 1984) 22/2/38/-172
Society (Brian Yuzna, 1989) 21/2/33/New
An American Werewolf in London (John Landis, 1981) 21/2/35/New
A Soldier's Story (Norman Jewison, 1984) 21/2/35/New
Housekeeping (Bill Forsyth, 1987) 20/2/36/-151

Scanners (David Cronenberg, 1981) 18/2/33/New
Atlantic City (Louis Malle, 1980) 17/3/40/-259
Drugstore Cowboy (Gus Van Sant, 1989) 16/2/18/-191
Pauline at the Beach (Éric Rohmer, 1983) 16/2/26/-248
Time Bandits (Terry Gilliam, 1981) 16/2/35/-49
The Angelic Conversation (Derek Jarman, 1987) 15/2/37/-81
Melvin and Howard (Jonathan Demme, 1980) 12/2/45(x2)/-184
A Chinese Ghost Story (Ching Siu-tung, 1987) 10/2/45/-96
The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (Kazuo Hara, 1987) 10/2/46(x2)/New
1984 (Michael Radford, 1984) 8/2/45/New

The Crazy Family (Sōgo Ishii, 1984) 7/2/46/New
To Live and Die in L.A. (William Friedkin, 1985) 5/2/47/-76
Grease 2 (Patricia Birch, 1982) 3/2/49/New

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1139 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:15 am

Orphans

NOTE: The number listed for each film represents the ranking it received, not the number of points.

A and B in Ontario (Hollis Frampton & Joyce Wieland, 1984) 46
The Abyss (James Cameron, 1989) 34
Adventures in Babysitting (Chris Columbus, 1987) 37
Agatha et les lectures illimitées (Marguerite Duras, 1981) 29
Agony (Elem Klimov, 1981) 16
Airplane! (Jim Abrahams & David & Jerry Zucker, 1980) 3
All the King's Men (King Hu, 1983) 29
Alphabet City (Amos Poe, 1984) 17
Altered States (Ken Russell, 1980) 48
American Flyers (John Badham, 1985) 17
American Gigolo (Paul Schrader, 1980) 25
Angel (Neil Jordan, 1982) 27
Angel Heart (Alan Parker, 1987) 26
Angel's Egg (Mamoru Ohsii, 1985) 38
Angry Harvest (Agnieszka Holland, 1985) 18
Anguish (Bigas Luna, 1987) 8
The Animals Film (Myriam Alaux & Victor Schonfeld, 1981) 4
The Architecture of Doom (Peter Cohen, 1989) 26
Artemis 81 (Alastair Reid, 1981) 40
The Assault (Fons Rademakers, 1986) 31
The Atomic Cafe (Jayne Loader & Kevin & Pierce Rafferty, 1982) 27
Austeria (Jerzy Kawalerowicz, 1982) 3
An Autumn's Tale (Mabel Cheung, 1987) 49

Baby It's You (John Sayles, 1983) 11
Bad Dreams (Andrew Fleming, 1988) 26
Balance (Christoph & Wolfgang Lauenstein, 1989) 50
Barefoot Gen 2 (Toshio Hirata, 1986) 13
Batman (Tim Burton, 1989) 10
Beau-père (Bertrand Blier, 1981) 41
Betty Blue (Jean-Jacques Beineix, 1986) 31
Beverly Hills Cop (Martin Brest, 1984) 27
The Beyond (Lucio Fulci, 1981) 50
Bianca (Nanni Moretti, 1984) 45
The Big Blue (Luc Besson, 1988) 39
The Big Chill (Lawrence Kasdan, 1983) 38
The Big Easy (Jim McBride, 1986) 39
Blind Chance (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1981) 19
The Blues Brothers (John Landis, 1980) 23
The Book of Mary (Anne-Marie Miéville, 1986) 32
Born in Flames (Lizzie Borden, 1983) 32
The Boxer's Omen (Kuei Chih-Hung, 1983) 49
The Boys from Fengkuei (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1983) 46
Brandmale (George Moorse, 1983) 34
'Breaker' Morant (Bruce Beresford, 1980) 24
The Brother from Another Planet (John Sayles, 1984) 33
The 'Burbs (Joe Dante, 1989) 45
Burst City (Sōgo Ishii, 1982) 40
Butterfly and Flowers (Euthana Mukdasanit, 1985) 21

The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial (Robert Altman, 1988) 33
Os Canibais (Manoel de Oliveira, 1988) 38
Can't Buy Me Love (Steve Rash, 1987) 43
Caravaggio (Derek Jarman, 1986) 24
Carmen (Francesco Rosi, 1984) 3
Carny (Robert Kaylor, 1980) 50
Castle in the Sky (Hayao Miyazaki, 1986) 48
Cat People (Paul Schrader, 1982) 29
The Catch (Shinji Sōmai, 1983) 17
Cecilia (Humberto Solás, 1982) 25
Charlotte for Ever (Serge Gainsbourg, 1986) 19
Christmas Vacation (Jeremiah Chechik, 1989) 40
La città delle donne (Federico Fellini, 1980) 43
The City and the Dogs (Francisco Lombardi, 1985) 30
Colonel Redl (István Szabó, 1985) 34
Come Back to the 5 & Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean (Robert Altman, 1982) 43
Commando (Mark Lester, 1985) 16
Cop (James Harris, 1988) 7
Cruising (William Friedkin, 1980) 13
Cycling the Frame (Cynthia Beatt, 1988) 13
The Cyclist (Mohsen Makhmalbāf, 1987) 13

The Dante Quartet (Stan Brakhage, 1987) 39
The Dark Crystal (Jim Henson & Frank Oz, 1982) 32
Darkness Light Darkness (Jan Švankmajer, 1989) 8
Dead Calm (Phillip Noyce, 1989) 20
Dead Poets Society (Peter Weir, 1989) 11
Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam (Bill Couturié, 1987) 15
Death and Transfiguration (Terence Davies, 1980) 45
Death Shadows (Hideo Gosha, 1986) 29
The Decline of Western Civilization (Penelope Spheeris, 1981) 44
Decoder (Muscha, 1984) 49
Deprisa, deprisa (Carlos Saura, 1981) 17
Desiring Julia (Andrea Barzini, 1986) 46
Dialogue with a Woman Departed (Leo Hurwitz, 1981) 36
Diary for My Children (Márta Mészáros, 1984) 25
Diary for My Lovers (Márta Mészáros, 1987) 26
A Distant Cry from Spring (Yōji Yamada, 1980) 9
The Dog's Night Song (Gábor Bódy, 1983) 2
Dreamchild (Gavin Millar, 1985) 49
A Dry White Season (Euzhan Palcy, 1989) 35
Duel to the Death (Ching Siu-tung, 1983) 30

The Emerald Forest (John Boorman, 1985) 28
Empire of the Sun (Steven Spielberg, 1987) 22
The Enchanted Forest (José Luis Cuerda, 1987) 49
Enemies: A Love Story (Paul Mazursky, 1989) 28
Epidemic (Lars von Trier, 1987) 38
Escape from New York (John Carpenter, 1981) 50
Esther (Amos Gitai, 1986) 39
Ethnic Notions (Marlon Riggs, 1986) 27
European Vacation (Amy Heckerling, 1985) 28
The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, 1981) 12
Extreme Prejudice (Walter Hill, 1987) 14
The Eye Above the Well (Johan van der Keuken, 1988) 47
Eyes of a Stranger (Ken Wiederhorn, 1981) 25
Eyes on the Prize (Henry Hampton, 1987) 46

Fandango (Kevin Reynolds, 1985) 2
Fast-Walking (James Harris, 1982) 50
Fatal Attraction (Adrian Lyne, 1987) 34
Favorites of the Moon (Otar Iosseliani, 1984) 27
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (John Hughes, 1986) 26
Field Diary (Amos Gitai, 1982) 49
52 Pick-Up (John Frankenheimer, 1986) 21
Five Element Ninjas (Chang Cheh, 1982) 50
Fletch (Michael Ritchie, 1985) 36
The Fog (John Carpenter, 1980) 15
Frances (Graeme Clifford, 1982) 44
Francisca (Manoel de Oliveira, 1981) 6
Frantic (Roman Polański, 1988) 23
Freeze, Die, Come to Life (Vitali Kanevsky, 1989) 47
Full Moon in Paris (Éric Rohmer, 1984) 11
The Funeral (Jūzō Itami, 1984) 4

Gallipoli (Peter Weir, 1981) 29
Gandahar (René Laloux, 1988) 50
Gandhi (Richard Attenborough, 1982) 50
The Garden of Earthly Delights (Stan Brakhage, 1981) 35
Ghostbusters (Ivan Reitman, 1984) 4
A Girl's Own Story (Jane Campion, 1984) 46
Gloria (John Cassavetes, 1980) 47
God's Gift (Gaston Kaboré, 1983) 23
The Gold Diggers (Sally Potter, 1983) 18
Golem (Piotr Szulkin, 1980) 49
Good Morning, Vietnam (Barry Levinson, 1987) 39
The Goonies (Richard Donner, 1985) 11
A Grand Day Out (Nick Park, 1989) 48
Grandeur et décadance d'un petit commerce de cinéma (Jean-Luc Godard, 1986) 39

The Hatter's Ghost (Claude Chabrol, 1982) 50
He Stands in the Desert Counting the Seconds of His Life (Jonas Mekas, 1986) 21
Heathers (Michael Lehmann, 1988) 20
Hellraiser (Clive Barker, 1987) 30
The Hitcher (Robert Harmon, 1986) 39
The Holy Innocents (Mario Camus, 1984) 42
Hôtel Terminus (Marcel Ophüls, 1987) 29
Hovering Over the Water (João César Monteiro, 1986) 5
The Howling (Joe Dante, 1981) 42
The Human Promise (Yoshishige Yoshida, 1986) 36

Iguana (Monte Hellman, 1988) 10
In Country (Norman Jewison, 1989) 33
In Heaven There Is No Beer? (Les Blank, 1984) 32
Interrogation (Ryszard Bugajski, 1989) 23
Into the Night (John Landis, 1985) 32
Ishtar (Elaine May, 1987) 12
It's Impossible to Learn to Plow by Reading Books (Richard Linklater, 1988) 3

Jesus Christ's Horoscope (Miklós Jancsó, 1989) 40
Johnny Handsome (Walter Hill, 1989) 27

Kids Playground (Svetlana Proskurina, 1986) 23
Killer Constable (Kuei Chih-Hung, 1980) 39
Kin-dza-dza! (Georgi Daneliya, 1986) 44
King Lear (Jean-Luc Godard, 1987) 21
Knightriders (George Romero, 1981) 37
Kung-fu Master! (Agnès Varda, 1988) 20

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains (Lou Adler, 1982) 46
Legend of Tianyun Mountain (Xie Jin, 1980) 4
Lethal Weapon (Richard Donner, 1987) 28
Lianna (John Sayles, 1983) 38
The Life and Times of Rosie the Riveter (Connie Field, 1980) 21
Life Classes (William MacGillivray, 1988) 6
Life Is a Dream (Raúl Ruiz, 1987) 35
Life Lessons (Martin Scorsese, 1989) 38
Lifeforce (Tobe Hooper, 1985) 50
Lili Marleen (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1981) 47
The Living Dead Girl (Jean Rollin, 1982) 30
Long Arm of the Law (Johnny Mak, 1984) 5
The Long Riders (Walter Hill, 1980) 43
The Lost Boys (Joel Schumacher, 1987) 13
Love Hotel (Shinji Sōmai, 1985) 10
Love on the Ground (Jacques Rivette, 1984) 18

Macho Dancer (Lino Brocka, 1988) 24
La Maison assassinée (Georges Lautner, 1988) 44
Mammame (Raúl Ruiz, 1986) 18
Man of Flowers (Paul Cox, 1983) 15
The Man Who Could Not See Far Enough (Peter Rose, 1981) 49
The Man with Two Brains (Carl Reiner, 1983) 11
Maria - Nur die Nacht war ihr Zeuge (Ernst Hofbauer, 1980) 43
Married to the Mob (Jonathan Demme, 1988) 3
Masques (Claude Chabrol, 1987) 31
The Master of Shiatsu (Sōgo Ishii, 1989) 37
Mavka (Yuri Ilyenko, 1981) 45
Meantime (Mike Leigh, 1983) 20
Media (Zbigniew Rybczyński, 1980) 49
Miami Connection (Park Woo-sang, 1987) 50
Midnight Run (Martin Brest, 1988) 30
The Millennial Bee (Juraj Jakubisko, 1983) 9
The Mission (Roland Joffé, 1986) 13
Monsieur Hire (Patrice Leconte, 1989) 16
The Monster Squad (Fred Dekker, 1987) 25
Montenegro (Dušan Makavejev, 1981) 50
Moscow Elegy (Aleksandr Sokurov, 1987) 30
Mournful Unconcern (Aleksandr Sokurov, 1983) 38
Muddy River (Kōhei Oguri, 1981) 25
My Friend Ivan Lapshin (Aleksei German, 1986) 6
My Left Foot (Jim Sheridan, 1989) 47

Nadine (Robert Benton, 1987) 31
The Natural (Barry Levinson, 1984) 27
The Navigator: A Medieval Odyssey (Vincent Ward, 1988) 14
Nayakan (Mani Ratnam, 1987) 20
The Needle (Rashid Nugmanov, 1988) 22
Never Cry Wolf (Carroll Ballard, 1983) 34
Next of Kin (Tony Williams, 1982) 35
Night of the Creeps (Fred Dekker, 1986) 26
The Night of the Shooting Stars (Paolo & Vittorio Taviani, 1982) 29
A Nightmare on Elm Street (Wes Craven, 1984) 50
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (Chuck Russell, 1987) 32
No End (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1985) 12
No More Comics! (Yōjirō Takita, 1986) 47
Notebook on Cities and Clothes (Wim Wenders, 1989) 15

Ode to Mount Hayachine (Sumiko Haneda, 1982) 48
Opera (Dario Argento, 1987) 19
Oro, plata, mata (Peque Gallaga, 1982) 1
Our Century (Artavazd Peleshian, 1983) 35
Outland (Peter Hyams, 1981) 33

Pale Rider (Clint Eastwood, 1985) 8
Parenthood (Ron Howard, 1989) 16
Passion (Jean-Luc Godard, 1982) 47
Pathfinder (Nils Gaup, 1987) 41
Peril (Michel Deville, 1985) 28
Petites notes à propos du film 'Je vous salue, Marie' (Jean-Luc Godard, 1983) 24
Petria's Wreath (Srđan Karanović, 1980) 32
Phenomena (Dario Argento, 1985) 40
La Pirate (Jacques Doillon, 1984) 36
Pixote (Hector Babenco, 1981) 11
Polyester (John Waters, 1981) 22
Presents (Michael Snow, 1981) 37
Private Practices: The Story of a Sex Surrogate (Kirby Dick, 1986) 42
Project A (Jackie Chan, 1983) 34
The Public Voice (Lejf Marcussen, 1988) 19

Querelle (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1982) 17
A Question of Silence (Marleen Gorris, 1982) 42

Rain Man (Barry Levinson, 1988) 34
The Rainbow (Ken Russell, 1989) 45
Re-Animator (Stuart Gordon, 1985) 19
Red Boogie (Karpo Godina, 1982) 50
The Red Spectacles (Mamoru Ohsii, 1987) 8
Reds (Warren Beatty, 1981) 48
Rehearsals for Extinct Anatomies (Stephen & Timothy Quay, 1987) 32
Return of the Jedi (Richard Marquand, 1983) 21
Return to Oz (Walter Murch, 1985) 7
Risky Business (Paul Brickman, 1983) 37
Roger & Me (Michael Moore, 1989) 29
A Room with a View (James Ivory, 1985) 50
Route One USA (Robert Kramer, 1989) 33
The Runner (Amir Naderi, 1984) 40
Ruthless People (Jim Abrahams & David & Jerry Zucker, 1986) 50

Sammy and Rosie Get Laid (Stephen Frears, 1987) 16
The Satin Slipper (Manoel de Oliveira, 1985) 27
Scrooged (Richard Donner, 1988) 41
The Second Face (Dominik Graf, 1982) 1
Seems Like Old Times (Jay Sandrich, 1980) 38
September (Woody Allen, 1987) 27
Shadow Killers Tiger Force (Godfrey Ho, 1986) 48
Shadow of the Earth (Taieb Louhichi, 1982) 23
Shadows in Paradise (Aki Kaurismäki, 1986) 34
Shanghai Blues (Tsui Hark, 1984) 48
She's Gotta Have It (Spike Lee, 1986) 31
Shoot the Moon (Alan Parker, 1982) 12
Shuffle (Sōgo Ishii, 1981) 7
Sid and Nancy (Alex Cox, 1986) 14
Les Sièges de l'Alcazar (Luc Moullet, 1989) 44
Sledgehammer (Stephen Johnson, 1986) 48
The Snowman (Dianne Jackson & Jimmy Murakami, 1982) 34
Somewhere in Time (Jeannot Szwarc, 1980) 46
Songwriter (Alan Rudolph, 1984) 48
Spacy (Takashi Itō, 1981) 8
Spetters (Paul Verhoeven, 1980) 47
Splash (Ron Howard, 1984) 41
Stagefright (Michele Soavi, 1987) 34
Standard Gauge (Morgan Fisher, 1984) 1
Station (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1980) 35
Stop Making Sense (Jonathan Demme, 1984) 42
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne (Walerian Borowczyk, 1981) 29
Streetwise (Martin Bell, 1984) 47
The Stunt Man (Richard Rush, 1980) 43
Surviving Edged Weapons (Dennis Anderson, 1988) 48

A Tale of Africa (Susumu Hani & Simon Trevor, 1980) 50
Tales of Ordinary Madness (Marco Ferreri, 1981) 4
Tamahimeden: Live Ganyu (Kazusuke Obi & Keiko Shinozaki, 1984) 44
Tango (Zbigniew Rybczyński, 1981) 22
Tarzan, the Ape Man (John Derek, 1981) 28
A Taxing Woman (Jūzō Itami, 1987) 25
Thames Film (William Raban, 1987) 23
Thelonious Monk: Straight, No Chaser (Charlotte Zwerin, 1988) 36
Threads (Mick Jackson, 1984) 37
Three Crowns of the Sailor (Raúl Ruiz, 1982) 43
Thunder (Takashi Itō, 1982) 4
Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (Pedro Almodóvar, 1989) 41
Time for Revenge (Adolfo Aristarain, 1981) 22
Time Stands Still (Péter Gothár, 1982) 6
The Time to Live and the Time to Die (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1985) 2
Der Tod des Empedokles (Jean-Marie Straub & Daniêle Huillet, 1987) 49
Tokyo-ga (Wim Wenders, 1985) 38
Tongues Untied (Marlon Riggs, 1989) 19
Top Model (Joe D'Amato, 1988) 9
Top Secret! (Jim Abrahams & David & Jerry Zucker, 1984) 39
Toute une nuit (Chantal Akerman, 1982) 49
Tre fratelli (Francesco Rosi, 1981) 40
Trouble in Mind (Alan Rudolph, 1985) 38
La Truite (Joseph Losey, 1982) 18
Twilight Zone: The Movie (John Landis et al., 1983) 33
Two Moon Junction (Zalman King, 1988) 29

Under the Glacier (Guðný Halldórsdóttir, 1989) 50

Vacation (Harold Ramis, 1983) 48
Variety (Bette Gordon, 1983) 36
Die Venusfalle (Robert van Ackeren, 1988) 43
Vice Squad (Gary Sherman, 1982) 50
Virgin Machine (Monika Treut, 1988) 19
Virile Games (Jan Švankmajer, 1988) 22
A Visitor to a Museum (Konstantin Lopushanskiy, 1989) 12
Voyage en douce (Michel Deville, 1980) 28

Walker (Alex Cox, 1987) 34
Weather Diary 1 (George Kuchar, 1986) 34
Weird Science (John Hughes, 1985) 6
When Harry Met Sally (Rob Reiner, 1989) 16
When the Tenth Month Comes (Đặng Nhật Minh, 1984) 19
Where the Green Ants Dream (Werner Herzog, 1984) 45
White of the Eye (Donald Cammell, 1987) 41
Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East? (Bae Yong-kyun, 1989) 39
The Wind (Souleymane Cissé, 1982) 21
Wings of Honneamise (Hiroyuki Yamaga, 1987) 20
Winners and Sinners (Sammo Hung Kam-Bo, 1983) 39
Witness (Peter Weir, 1985) 46
A Woman in Flames (Robert van Ackeren, 1983) 41
The Woman Next Door (François Truffaut, 1981) 17
Working Girls (Lizzie Borden, 1986) 19
A World Apart (Chris Menges, 1988) 37
Wuthering Heights (Jacques Rivette, 1985) 41

Yaaba (Idrissa Ouédraogo, 1989) 36
Yeelen (Souleymane Cissé, 1987) 38
You Are Not I (Sara Driver, 1981) 44

Zappa (Bille August, 1983) 3
Zegen (Shōhei Imamura, 1987) 36

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1140 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:28 am

A good and deserving new first place winner! This overall turned out to be a better list than the last one, with some nicely esoteric choices throughout (what a difference a few years and a Criterion release can make for Broadcast News)

My Top 10 + Orphans
01 They All Laughed
02 the Purple Rose of Cairo
03 My Dinner With Andre
04 Broadcast News
05 Modern Romance
06 Do the Right Thing
07 Broadway Danny Rose
08 Anguish ALSO ORPHAN
09 the Right Stuff
10 the Annunciation

11 the Goonies
21 King Lear
26 Bad Dreams
29 Roger and Me
31 Nadine
32 Into the Night
33 In Country
38 the Big Chill
39 Top Secret!
41 Splash
43 Can't Buy Me Love
44 Frances
46 Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains
48 Surviving Edged Weapons
50 Ruthless People


Special tip of the hat to the other person who snuck Grease 2 in at the bottom of their list

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1141 Post by thirtyframesasecond » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:48 am

My top ten:

Au Revoir Les Enfants (Louis Malle, France, 1987)
Possession (Andrzej Zulawski, France, 1981)
Camp de Thiaroye (Ousmane Sembene, Senegal, 1988)
Yol (Yilmaz Guney, Turkey, 1982)
Veronika Voss (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, West Germany, 1982)
Yellow Earth (Chen Kaige, China, 1984)
Ran (Akira Kurosawa, Japan, 1985)
Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, West Germany, 1987)
The Seventh Continent (Michael Haneke, Austria, 1989)
Come and See (Elem Klimov, Soviet Union, 1985)

Orphans:

14. Navigator: A Medieval Odyssey (Vincent Ward, New Zealand, 1988)
15. Man of Flowers (Paul Cox, Australia, 1983)
19. Opera (Dario Argento, Italy, 1987)
23. Shadow of the Earth (Taieb Louhichi, Tunisia, 1982)
25. Cecilia (Humberto Solas, Cuba, 1982)
27. Angel (Neil Jordan, Ireland, 1982)
35. Station (Krzysztof Kieslowski, Poland, 1980)
36. Yaaba (Idrissa Ouedragao, Burkina Faso, 1989)
42. Stop Making Sense (Jonathan Demme, USA, 1984)
50. Montenegro (Dusan Makavejev, Sweden, 1981)

Very glad to see someone else voted for 'Society'!

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1142 Post by Forrest Taft » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:53 am

My Top 10:
1. Excalibur (John Boorman, 1981)
2. Die Hard (John McTiernan, 1988)
3. Hotaru no haka/Grave of the Fireflies (Isao Takahata, 1988)
4. Sans soleil (Chris Marker, 1983)
5. The Thing (John Carpenter, 1982)
6. Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
7. Tonari no Totori/My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988)
8. The Right Stuff (Philip Kaufman, 1983)
9. Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog, 1982)
10. Blade Runner (Ridley Scott, 1982)

Orphans:
26. Angel Heart (Alan Parker, 1987)
27. Johnny Handsome (Walter Hill, 1989)
41. Ofelas/Veiviseren/Pathfinder (Nils Gaup, 1987)
43. The Long Riders (Walter Hill, 1980)
45. The ‘Burbs (Joe Dante, 1989)
46. Witness (Peter Weir, 1985)
47. Spetters (Paul Verhoeven, 1980)

Edit: Also: 36. Fletch (Michael Ritchie, 1985)

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1143 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:00 pm

Oh, and swo:
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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1144 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:03 pm

Impeccable stewardship from swo.
My top 20

1. Where is the Friend’s house?- Kiarostami
2. Sans Soleil - Marker
3. Mauvais Sang – Carax
4 .A Nos Amours - Pialat
5. Chocolat – Denis
6. Dekalog - Kieslowski
7. Sous le soleil de Satan – Pialat
8. Landscape in the Mist -Angelopoulos
9. Boy meets Girl - Carax
10. Je vous salue Marie –Godard
11. Damnation - Tarr
12. Yol –Yilma Guney
13. The Cyclist – Makhmalbaf
14. Fanny and Alexander - Bergman
15. Sacrifice – Tarkovsky
16 Monsieur Hire - Leconte
17. Comrades - Douglas
18. Loulou – Pialat
19. Burden of dreams - Les Blank
20. Berlin Alexanderplatz – Fassbinder

Can't believe I forgot Bokanowski and Paul Cox. Will pencil them in for 2021

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1145 Post by bamwc2 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:20 pm

My full list with orphans highlighted in red.

1. Shoah (Claude Lanzmann, 1985)
2. Berlin Alexanderplatz (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1985)
3. Fanny and Alexander (television cut) (Ingmar Bergman, 1982)
4. The Animals Film (Myriam Alaux and Victor Schonfeld, 1981)
5. Videodrome (David Cronenberg, 1983)
6. Cook, the Thief, His Wife, & Her Lover (Peter Greenway, 1989)
7. Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
8. Once Upon a Time in America (Sergio Leone, 1984)
9. RoboCop (Paul Verhoeven, 1987)
10. The Last Temptation of Christ (Martin Scorsese, 1988)
11. Chameleon Street (Wendell B. Harris Jr., 1989)
12. The Territory (Raoul Ruiz, 1982)
13. Coup de Torchon (Bertrand Tavernier, 1981)
14. Sid and Nancy (Alex Cox, 1986)
15. Dear America: Letters Home from Vietnam (Bill Couturié, 1987)
16. Danton (Andrzej Wajda, 1983)
17. This Is Spinal Tap (Rob Reiner, 1984)
18. The Unbearable Lightness of Being (Philip Kaufman, 1988)
19. Ballad of Narayama (Shohei Imamura, 1983)
20. My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988)
21. The Life and Times of Rosie the Riveter (Connie Field, 1980)
22. The Terrorizers (Edward Yang, 1986)
23. Interrogation (Ryszard Bugajski, 1989)
24. The Elephant Man (David Lynch, 1980)
25. A Taxing Woman (Juzo Itami, 1987)
26. Ran (Akira Kurosawa,1985)
27. The Natural (Barry Levinson, 1984)
28. Voyage en Douce (Michel Deville, 1980)
29. Hôtel Terminus (Marcel Ophüls, 1988)
30. A Summer at Grandpa's (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1984)
31. Sound and Fury (Jean-Claude Brisseau, 1988)
32. Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog, 1982)
33. Jean de Florette/Manon of the Spring (Claude Berri, 1986)
34. A Tale of the Wind (Joris Ivens, 1988)
35. Sherman’s March (Ross McElwee, 1986)
36. Dialogue with a Woman Departed (Leo Hurwitz, 1981)
37. When the Wind Blows (Jimmy T. Murakami, 1986)
38. Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters (Paul Schrader, 1985)
39. Raiders of the Lost Ark (Steven Spielberg, 1981)
40. The Runner (Amir Naderi, 1984)
41. Beau Pere (Bertrand Blier, 1981)
42. Private Practices: The Story of a Sex Surrogate (Kirby Dick, 1985)
43. Vagabond (Agnes Varda, 1985)
44. Les sièges de l'Alcazar (Luc Moullet, 1989)
45. Where Is the Friend's House? (Abbas Kiarostami, 1987)
46. The Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On (Kazuo Hara, 1987)
47. Streetwise (Martin Bell, 1984)
48. Under Satan's Sun (Maurice Pialat, 1987)
49. The Boxer’s Omen (Chih-Hung Kuei, 1983)
50. Gandhi (Richard Attenborough, 1982)

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1146 Post by Feego » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:25 pm

My Top 10:
1. The Shining (1980, Stanley Kubrick)
2. Grave of the Fireflies (1988, Isao Takahata)
3. Blow Out (1981, Brian De Palma)
4. Hairspray (1988, John Waters)
5. Do the Right Thing (1989, Spike Lee)
6. Ms. 45 (1981, Abel Ferrara)
7. Return to Oz (1985, Walter Murch) ALSO ORPHAN
8. The Terminator (1984, James Cameron)
9. Blue Velvet (1986, David Lynch)
10. Akira (1988, Katsuhiro Otomo)

Orphans:
12. The Evil Dead (1981, Sam Raimi)
13. Barefoot Gen 2 (1986, Toshiro Hirata & Akio Sakai)
15. The Fog (1980, John Carpenter)
34. Never Cry Wolf (1983, Carroll Ballard)
35. Time Bandits (1981, Terry Gilliam)
39. The Hitcher (1986, Robert Harmon)
48. Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986, Hayao Miyazaki)
49. DreamChild (1985, Gavin Millar)
50. Vice Squad (1982, Gary Sherman)


For my first time participating in a list project, this was really fun. I watched about 30 new movies for this project, 10 of which made my final list. My taste ultimately swayed much more toward fantasy, horror and sci-fi. The biggest viewing surprises for me were Ms. 45, which I'm happy to see snuck onto the list, and Barefoot Gen 2. If we do revisit this decade a few years down the road, I'll have to give that the latter a bigger push.

Thanks to Swo for his hard work in preparing this!

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1147 Post by knives » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:28 pm

Thank you very much Swo for dealing with us schmucks.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1148 Post by Gregory » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:21 pm

Every list, I forget to include a film and this time it was The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On. (Did zedz submit a list? I guess we'll soon find out.) Yesterday, I was rushing back and forth between my "favorite movies" shelves—yes, they're segregated from the rest—and simply forgot to put that one into my list. It's a totally unique documentary, shame to see it orphaned.

Surprising to see Koyaanisqatsi become an also-ran this time, even with impressive Criterion and Arrow releases out (I probably should've voted for it), and Time Bandits orphaned even with the nice Arrow release. Sometimes it seems like a better release gives films a boost in the next round of the lists, sometimes not, but in any case I thought those films both had quite a few fans.
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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1149 Post by Tommaso » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:24 pm

domino harvey wrote:This overall turned out to be a better list than the last one, with some nicely esoteric choices throughout (what a difference a few years and a Criterion release can make for...)
[insert film of your choice]

Yes, definitely, even though Gregory's post about the recent Arrow releases seems to contradict it. But the MoC release must have helped Rivette's "Pont du nord" a lot. On the other hand, the drastic drop of "La bande des quatre" is pretty inexplicable to me.

I'm also quite happy to see that at least one Ottinger film, "Johanna d'arc of Mongolia", has made the list, and that with only three people voting for it (and no, I wasn't the one who put it on first place of his list). The same for Ottinger's "Dorian Gray": only three people had it on their list, with two of them ranking it Top 10.

I guess this is another good example how much commercial availability has an influence on the listmaking in general, and how important it is to try to use the backchannels to get a more complete picture. This is probably less important for the coming lists, as far fewer (great) films from the 1990s onwards are missing commercial releases, but the issue will certainly come up again when we enter Vol.4, especially the 20s and 30s, I guess.

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Re: 1980s List Discussion and Suggestions

#1150 Post by bamwc2 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:36 pm

Yes, thanks, Swo. Any chance of unlocking that 90s thread?

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