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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#326 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:13 am

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Points/Votes(Top 10 Mentions)/Highest Placement

10 Lists Submitted


01. Lisa's Substitute S2E19 282/7(4)/1
02. Last Exit to Springfield S4E17 266/8(4)/1(x2)
03. Homer at the Bat S3E17 230/6(3)/5
04. Rosebud S5E4 227/6(2)/4(x2)
05. Bart Gets Famous S5E12 226/7(2)/3
06. Homer the Great S6E12 219/7(1)/10
07. Bart Sells His Soul S7E4 215/7(3)/5
08. I Love Lisa S4E15 208/7(2)/9
09. Kamp Krusty S4E1 194/6(2)/7
10. Treehouse of Horror III S4E5 192/5(3)/5(x2)
11. Duffless S4E16 191/8(2)/3
12. Homer Badman S6E9 184/4(3)/1(x2)
(tie) A Streetcar Named Marge S4E2 184/5(2)/2
14. Radio Bart S3E13 182/8(2)/3
15. Bart Gets an Elephant S5E17 181/5(2)/3
16. Homer Goes to College S5E3 180/7(3)/3(x2)
17. Marge vs. the Monorail S4E12 179/7(2)/2
18. Deep Space Homer S5E15 164/5(2)/1
19. Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie S4E6 163/5(1)/4
20. Bart the Lover S3E16 157/5(2)/3(x2)
21. Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk S3E11 152/6/11
22. And Maggie Makes Three S6E13 151/4(2)/4
23. Homer the Heretic S4E3 142/4(2)/5
24. Krusty Gets Kancelled S4E22 138/4(1)/7
25. Treehouse of Horror IV S5E5 133/4(2)/1
26. The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show S8E14 128/5/14
27. Homer the Vigilante S5E11 127/5/12
28. The Last Temptation of Homer S5E9 125/5/12(x2)
29. Bart Gets an "F" S2E1 124/3(2)/5
30. Treehouse of Horror V S6E6 123/5(2)/9
(tie) You Only Move Twice S8E2 123/6/15
32. Colonel Homer S3E20 121/3(1)/2
33. Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington S3E2 119/4(1)/2
34. Lemon of Troy S6E24 118/5/15
35. Simpson and Delilah S2E2 116/4(1)/1
36. Homer's Enemy S8E23 110/6(1)/2
37. The Boy Who Knew Too Much S5E20 109/4(1)/4
38. Flaming Moe's S3E10 107/5(1)/6
39. Homer's Barbershop Quartet S5E1 106/4(1)/5
40. Cape Feare S5E2 100/4(1)/8
(tie) New Kid on the Block S4E8 100/4(1)/5
(tie) When Flanders Failed S3E3 100/4/13
(tie) Brother from the Same Planet S4E14 100/4/17
(tie) A Star Is Burns S6E18 100/5/18
45. Treehouse of Horror II S3E7 98/3(1)/1
46. 22 Short Films About Springfield S7E21 95/3(1)/6
47. Stark Raving Dad S3E1 94/4/12
(tie) Bart of Darkness S6E1 94/5/17
49. One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish S2E11 93/4(1)/10
50. A Milhouse Divided S8E6 89/2(1)/2
(tie) Burns' Heir S5E18 89/5(1)/7
(tie) Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish S2E4 89/4/16
53. Lisa's Wedding S6E19 87/2(1)/4
(tie) Itchy & Scratchy Land S6E4 87/4/11
(tie) Treehouse of Horror S2E3 87/4/18
(tie) Mr. Plow S4E9 87/5/24
57. Bart on the Road S7E20 86/4/19
58. Black Widower S3E21 85/3/11
59. HOMЯ S12E9 84/2(1)/1
(tie) Bart vs. Australia S6E16 84/3(1)/7
61. Homer's Triple Bypass S4E11 82/3(1)/8
62. Lisa's First Word S4E10 81/3(1)/10
63. Marge on the Lam S5E6 79/4/20
64. Bart's Girlfriend S6E7 78/3/11
(tie) Lisa's Rival S6E2 78/3/12
66. The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular S7E10 77/2(1)/9
67. Home Sweet Homediddly-Dum-Doodily S7E3 76/3(1)/7
68. Bart the General S1E5 75/3/21
69. The Joy of Sect S9E13 74/3(1)/4
70. Blood Feud S2E22 73/3/21
71. Lady Bouvier's Lover S5E21 72/2(1)/6
(tie) Lisa's Pony S3E8 72/2/13
73. Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment S8E18 71/2(1)/9
74. Summer of 4 Ft. 2 S7E25 70/2(1)/2
(tie) Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy S5E14 70/2/13
(tie) Homie the Clown S6E15 70/3/16
77. The Cartridge Family S9E5 69/3/20
78. Lisa the Beauty Queen S4E4 68/2/15
(tie) The Way We Was S2E12 68/4/21
80. Bart's Dog Gets an "F" S2E16 67/2(1)/7
(tie) Itchy & Scratchy & Marge S2E9 67/2(1)/9
(tie) $pringfield (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling) S5E10 67/2/11
83. Sideshow Bob Roberts S6E5 66/2(1)/6
84. Mother Simpson S7E8 65/2/12
85. Radioactive Man S7E2 63/3/11
86. Lisa the Greek S3E14 59/2(1)/9
(tie) Lisa the Iconoclast S7E16 59/3/14
88. Bart's Comet S6E14 58/2/17
89. Three Men and a Comic Book S2E21 57/2/12
90. King-Size Homer S7E7 55/3/20
(tie) Secrets of a Successful Marriage S5E22 55/3/23
(tie) Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song S5E19 55/4/29
93. Treehouse of Horror VI S7E6 54/2/20
94. Homer's Phobia S8E15 53/2/17
95. Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? S2E15 52/3/24
96. Bart vs. Thanksgiving S2E7 51/2(1)/3
97. Brush with Greatness S2E18 48/2(1)/8
98. Moaning Lisa S1E6 47/2(1)/6
(tie) Mountain of Madness S8E12 47/2(1)/8
(tie) Boy-Scoutz 'n the Hood S5E8 47/2/14


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7 Lists Submitted

01. Clown Without Pity ToH III 41/5/1
02. The Devil and Homer Simpson ToH IV 34/4/1
03. Bart Simpson's Dracula ToH IV 29/5/3
04. Time and Punishment ToH V 27/3/1
05. King Homer ToH III 25/3/1(x2)
06. Terror at 5½ Feet ToH IV 23/4/2
07. The Bart Zone ToH II 22/4/2
(tie) Nightmare Cafeteria ToH V 22/4/3
09. Dial 'Z' for Zombies ToH III 18/3/1
10. Send in the Clones ToH XIII 15/2/2
(tie) The Shinning ToH V 15/4/4


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Al Jean & Mike Reiss (43 episodes, 4351 points)
David Mirkin (43 episodes, 3854 points)
Bill Oakley & Josh Weinstein (37 episodes, 1918 points)
James L. Brooks, Matt Groening & Sam Simon (31 episodes, 1896 points)
Mike Scully (20 episodes, 618 points)
Al Jean solo (4 episodes, 113 points)


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John Swartzwelder (36 episodes, 3084 points)
Jon Vitti (15 episodes, 1796 points)
Greg Daniels (8 episodes, 931 points)
Jay Kogen & Wallace Wolodarsky (9 episodes, 745 points)
Bill Oakley & Josh Weinstein (11 episodes, 729 points)
Al Jean (10 episodes, 707 points)
Jeff Martin (10 episodes, 659 points)
Sam Simon (6 episodes, 619 points)
Mike Reiss (8 episodes, 616 points)
David M. Stern (6 episodes, 600 points)

Conan O'Brien (4 episodes, 592 points)
David S. Cohen (10 episodes, 567 points)
George Meyer (5 episodes, 499 points)
Dan McGrath (4 episodes, 397 points)
Frank Mula (2 episodes, 333 points)
Jennifer Crittenden (5 episodes, 312 points)
Richard Appel (6 episodes, 282 points)
Jonathan Collier (5 episodes, 265 points)
Steve Tompkins (4 episodes, 242 points)
Mike Scully (7 episodes, 239 points)


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Jim Reardon (27 episodes, 2575 points)
Wes Archer (22 episodes, 1784 points)
Mark Kirkland (27 episodes, 1740 points)
Rich Moore (15 episodes, 1492 points)
David Silverman (19 episodes, 1335 points)
Carlos Baeza (8 episodes, 986 points)
Jeffrey Lynch (11 episodes, 627 points)
Susie Dietter (8 episodes, 567 points)
Mike B. Anderson (8 episodes, 391 points)
Steven Dean Moore (8 episodes, 383 points)


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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#327 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:13 am

ALSO-RANS

Homer Alone S3E15 46/3/13
Bart the Murderer S3E4 46/3/29
Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part Two) S7E1 44/2/27
Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes? S3E24 40/2/16
Marge Be Not Proud S7E11 39/2/25
Selma's Choice S4E13 39/2/30
The Day the Violence Died S7E18 39/4/29
Homer and Apu S5E13 39/4/33
Two Bad Neighbors S7E13 38/2/24
Bart the Daredevil S2E8 38/2/30

Hurricane Neddy S8E8 37/2/23
Krusty Gets Busted S1E12 35/2/27
Lard of the Dance S10E1 34/2/23
Old Money S2E17 32/2/33
Whacking Day S4E20 28/2/34
Lisa on Ice S6E8 28/3/38
E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt) S11E5 27/2/27
Girly Edition S9E21 26/2/28
Bart the Genius S1E2 23/2/35
A Fish Called Selma S7E19 20/2/40

The Twisted World of Marge Simpson S8E11 19/2/33
Bart Gets Hit by a Car S2E10 18/2/35
Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part One) S6E25 15/2/43
The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase S8E24 4/2/48
Dead Putting Society S2E6 4/2/49(x2)

TREEHOUSE OF HORROR

Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace ToH VI 14/4/4
The Monkey's Paw ToH II 13/4/3
Hungry Are the Damned ToH I 12/3/4
Bad Dream House ToH I 10/3/5
The Raven ToH I 8/2/5
The Genesis Tub ToH VII 6/2/8(x2)


ORPHANS

Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire S1E1 33
There's No Disgrace Like Home S1E4 8
The Call of the Simpsons S1E7 45
Life on the Fast Lane S1E9 9

Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment S2E13 23
Principal Charming S2E14 45
The War of the Simpsons S2E20 38

Like Father, Like Clown S3E6 34
Saturdays of Thunder S3E9 40
I Married Marge S3E12 47
The Otto Show S3E22 46
Bart's Friend Falls in Love S3E23 32

Marge Gets a Job S4E7 23
The Front S4E19 48

Homer Loves Flanders S5E16 41

Fear of Flying S6E11 40
The PTA Disbands S6E21 12
'Round Springfield S6E22 49
The Springfield Connection S6E23 43

Lisa the Vegetarian S7E5 19
Team Homer S7E12 42
Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield S7E14 43
Bart the Fink S7E15 41
Raging Abe Simpson and His Grumbling Grandson in The Curse of the Flying Hellfish S7E22 26
Much Apu About Nothing S7E23 42

Treehouse of Horror VII S8E1 4
Burns, Baby Burns S8E4 26
Bart After Dark S8E5 32
Lisa's Date with Density S8E7 44
El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer S8E9 23
Brother from Another Series S8E16 37
The Secret War of Lisa Simpson S8E25 43

The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson S9E1 34
Treehouse of Horror VIII S9E4 8
Bart Star S9E6 37
All Singing, All Dancing S9E11 40
Das Bus S9E14 15
This Little Wiggy S9E18 30
Lost Our Lisa S9E24 39

The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace S10E2 10
Bart the Mother S10E3 46
Lisa Gets an "A" S10E7 32
Homer Simpson in: Kidney Trouble S10E8 44
Wild Barts Can't Be Broken S10E11 30
Homer to the Max S10E13 29

Beyond Blunderdome S11E1 16
Guess Who's Coming to Criticize Dinner S11E3 44

Treehouse of Horror XI S12E1 2

Treehouse of Horror XII S13E1 5
Tales from the Public Domain S13E14 41

Treehouse of Horror XIII S14E1 3

Treehouse of Horror XV S16E1 7

All About Lisa S19E20 40


TREEHOUSE OF HORROR

If I Only Had a Brain ToH II 2

Attack of the 50 Foot Eyesores ToH VI 10
Homer3 ToH VI 8

The HΩmega Man ToH VIII 9

I Know What You Diddily-Iddily-Did ToH X 8
Life's a Glitch, Then You Die ToH X 10

Scary Tales Can Come True ToH XI 4
Night of the Dolphin ToH XI 1

Hex and the City ToH XII 6

The Ned Zone ToH XV 5
Four Beheadings and a Funeral ToH XV 7

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#328 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:24 am

As a kind of viewing guide, here are all of the episodes that received more than one vote, organized by season:

119. Bart the Genius S1E2 23/2/35
68. Bart the General S1E5 75/3/21
98. Moaning Lisa S1E6 47/2(1)/6
112. Krusty Gets Busted S1E12 35/2/27

29. Bart Gets an "F" S2E1 124/3(2)/5
35. Simpson and Delilah S2E2 116/4(1)/1
53. Treehouse of Horror S2E3 87/4/18
50. Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish S2E4 89/4/16
124. Dead Putting Society S2E6 4/2/49(x2)
96. Bart vs. Thanksgiving S2E7 51/2(1)/3
109. Bart the Daredevil S2E8 38/2/30
80. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge S2E9 67/2(1)/9
122. Bart Gets Hit by a Car S2E10 18/2/35
49. One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish S2E11 93/4(1)/10
78. The Way We Was S2E12 68/4/21
95. Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? S2E15 52/3/24
80. Bart's Dog Gets an "F" S2E16 67/2(1)/7
114. Old Money S2E17 32/2/33
97. Brush with Greatness S2E18 48/2(1)/8
01. Lisa's Substitute S2E19 282/7(4)/1
89. Three Men and a Comic Book S2E21 57/2/12
70. Blood Feud S2E22 73/3/21

47. Stark Raving Dad S3E1 94/4/12
33. Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington S3E2 119/4(1)/2
40. When Flanders Failed S3E3 100/4/13
101. Bart the Murderer S3E4 46/3/29
45. Treehouse of Horror II S3E7 98/3(1)/1
71. Lisa's Pony S3E8 72/2/13
38. Flaming Moe's S3E10 107/5(1)/6
21. Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk S3E11 152/6/11
14. Radio Bart S3E13 182/8(2)/3
86. Lisa the Greek S3E14 59/2(1)/9
101. Homer Alone S3E15 46/3/13
20. Bart the Lover S3E16 157/5(2)/3(x2)
03. Homer at the Bat S3E17 230/6(3)/5
32. Colonel Homer S3E20 121/3(1)/2
58. Black Widower S3E21 85/3/11
104. Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes? S3E24 40/2/16

09. Kamp Krusty S4E1 194/6(2)/7
12. A Streetcar Named Marge S4E2 184/5(2)/2
23. Homer the Heretic S4E3 142/4(2)/5
78. Lisa the Beauty Queen S4E4 68/2/15
10. Treehouse of Horror III S4E5 192/5(3)/5(x2)
19. Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie S4E6 163/5(1)/4
40. New Kid on the Block S4E8 100/4(1)/5
53. Mr. Plow S4E9 87/5/24
62. Lisa's First Word S4E10 81/3(1)/10
61. Homer's Triple Bypass S4E11 82/3(1)/8
17. Marge vs. the Monorail S4E12 179/7(2)/2
105. Selma's Choice S4E13 39/2/30
40. Brother from the Same Planet S4E14 100/4/17
08. I Love Lisa S4E15 208/7(2)/9
11. Duffless S4E16 191/8(2)/3
02. Last Exit to Springfield S4E17 266/8(4)/1(x2)
115. Whacking Day S4E20 28/2/34
24. Krusty Gets Kancelled S4E22 138/4(1)/7

39. Homer's Barbershop Quartet S5E1 106/4(1)/5
40. Cape Feare S5E2 100/4(1)/8
16. Homer Goes to College S5E3 180/7(3)/3(x2)
04. Rosebud S5E4 227/6(2)/4(x2)
25. Treehouse of Horror IV S5E5 133/4(2)/1
63. Marge on the Lam S5E6 79/4/20
98. Boy-Scoutz 'n the Hood S5E8 47/2/14
28. The Last Temptation of Homer S5E9 125/5/12(x2)
80. $pringfield (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling) S5E10 67/2/11
27. Homer the Vigilante S5E11 127/5/12
05. Bart Gets Famous S5E12 226/7(2)/3
105. Homer and Apu S5E13 39/4/33
74. Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy S5E14 70/2/13
18. Deep Space Homer S5E15 164/5(2)/1
15. Bart Gets an Elephant S5E17 181/5(2)/3
50. Burns' Heir S5E18 89/5(1)/7
90. Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song S5E19 55/4/29
37. The Boy Who Knew Too Much S5E20 109/4(1)/4
71. Lady Bouvier's Lover S5E21 72/2(1)/6
90. Secrets of a Successful Marriage S5E22 55/3/23

47. Bart of Darkness S6E1 94/5/17
64. Lisa's Rival S6E2 78/3/12
53. Itchy & Scratchy Land S6E4 87/4/11
83. Sideshow Bob Roberts S6E5 66/2(1)/6
30. Treehouse of Horror V S6E6 123/5(2)/9
64. Bart's Girlfriend S6E7 78/3/11
115. Lisa on Ice S6E8 28/3/38
12. Homer Badman S6E9 184/4(3)/1(x2)
06. Homer the Great S6E12 219/7(1)/10
22. And Maggie Makes Three S6E13 151/4(2)/4
88. Bart's Comet S6E14 58/2/17
74. Homie the Clown S6E15 70/3/16
59. Bart vs. Australia S6E16 84/3(1)/7
40. A Star Is Burns S6E18 100/5/18
53. Lisa's Wedding S6E19 87/2(1)/4
34. Lemon of Troy S6E24 118/5/15
123. Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part One) S6E25 15/2/43

103. Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part Two) S7E1 44/2/27
85. Radioactive Man S7E2 63/3/11
67. Home Sweet Homediddly-Dum-Doodily S7E3 76/3(1)/7
07. Bart Sells His Soul S7E4 215/7(3)/5
93. Treehouse of Horror VI S7E6 54/2/20
90. King-Size Homer S7E7 55/3/20
84. Mother Simpson S7E8 65/2/12
66. The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular S7E10 77/2(1)/9
105. Marge Be Not Proud S7E11 39/2/25
109. Two Bad Neighbors S7E13 38/2/24
86. Lisa the Iconoclast S7E16 59/3/14
105. The Day the Violence Died S7E18 39/4/29
120. A Fish Called Selma S7E19 20/2/40
57. Bart on the Road S7E20 86/4/19
46. 22 Short Films About Springfield S7E21 95/3(1)/6
74. Summer of 4 Ft. 2 S7E25 70/2(1)/2

30. You Only Move Twice S8E2 123/6/15
50. A Milhouse Divided S8E6 89/2(1)/2
111. Hurricane Neddy S8E8 37/2/23
121. The Twisted World of Marge Simpson S8E11 19/2/33
98. Mountain of Madness S8E12 47/2(1)/8
26. The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show S8E14 128/5/14
94. Homer's Phobia S8E15 53/2/17
73. Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment S8E18 71/2(1)/9
36. Homer's Enemy S8E23 110/6(1)/2
124. The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase S8E24 4/2/48

77. The Cartridge Family S9E5 69/3/20
69. The Joy of Sect S9E13 74/3(1)/4
118. Girly Edition S9E21 26/2/28

113. Lard of the Dance S10E1 34/2/23

117. E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt) S11E5 27/2/27

59. HOMЯ S12E9 84/2(1)/1

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#329 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:35 am

Thanks swo, very exhaustive list results as always!

My Top Ten plus ORPHANS

01 Last Exit to Springfield
02 Marge vs the Monorail
03 Bart Gets Famous
04 Radio Bart
05 Homer at the Bat
06 Flaming Moe's
07 Krusty Gets Kancelled
08 Cape Feare
09 Treehouse of Horror IV
10 Treehouse of Horror V

43 Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield
44 Guess Who’s Coming to Criticize Dinner


And my Treehouse of Horror Top Ten:

01 Clown Without Pity
02 the Devil and Homer Simpson
03 Time and Punishment
04 Bart Simpson's Dracula
05 Nightmare Cafeteria
06 Terror at 5 1/2 Feet
07 the Shinning
08 I Know What You Diddily Iddily Did
09 Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace
10 the Bart Zone

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#330 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:41 am

Interestingly (and fittingly), every episode from Season Five qualified except Homer Loves Flanders, which received one vote, and Bart's Inner Child, which received nada (and only Homer and Apu failed to make the final list while still qualifying as an Also Ran). Shocked that Marge vs the Monorail finished so low-- I suspect revisionist Simpsonistas are the culprit for this, but in the wake of Brexit and Trump's rising poll numbers, I don't know why I'm so surprised. And of course I compliment the Treehouse list for pretty much agreeing with my own stances!

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#331 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:47 am

domino harvey wrote:Shocked that Marge vs the Monorail finished so low
What are you talking about? It finished 17th, the best number of all.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#332 Post by dustybooks » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:20 pm

We almost had a full flush (encompassing orphans) on Season Five then -- I very nearly listed Bart's Inner Child, which I came to love after befriending someone with an entire library of self-help manuals and a tendency to regurgitate all of their clichés in everyday conversation.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#333 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:26 pm

My top 50 episodes

And my Treehouse of Horror list:

01 The Devil and Homer Simpson
02 Terror at 5½ Feet
03 Clown Without Pity
04 The Bart Zone
05 Bart Simpson's Dracula
06 Nightmare Cafeteria
07 Nightmare on Evergreen Terrace
08 Dial 'Z' for Zombies
09 The Monkey's Paw
10 Life's a Glitch, Then You Die

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#334 Post by Lemmy Caution » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:08 pm

Great work as always.

One nit:
TofH XV S16: Jack the Ripper should be another (of my) orphans on the ToH list.

Half of my ToH's made the list, half were orphans.

Glad to see there were two votes for The Genesis Tub.
That just missed the cut along with The Thing & I (Hugo, Bart's evil Siamese twin).
I hated leaving off those two S8 episodes as they are great and ToH VII is terrific.
The other tough cut was Fly v. Fly from ToH VIII

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#335 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:15 pm

Four Beheadings and a Funeral = the Jack the Ripper segment

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#336 Post by Lemmy Caution » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:21 pm

My Halloween list was so full of treats that it went up to 13 ...

1. TofH XI S12: Night of the Dolphins
2. TofH XIII S14: Send in the Clones
3. TofH III S4: Clown Without Pity
4. TofH VI S7: A Nightmare On Evergreen Terrace
5. TofH XV S16: The Ned Zone
6. TofH XII S13: Hex and the City
7. TofH XV S16: Jack the Ripper
8. ToH II S3: Monkey's Paw
9. TofH VIII S9: The HΩmega Man
10. TofH V S6: The Shinning
11. TofH VII S8: The Thing and I (Hugo)
12. TofH VIII S9: Fly Vs. Fly
13. TofH VII S8: The Genesis Tub


Really I think the run from S12-16 is the best ToH stretch.
S6-9 is also mighty fine.
I'm wondering if people just haven't seen S12, S14 & S16 ToH's, or didn't care for them that much.
Make sure to see Night of the Dolphins if you haven't.
I like how it's another of those Lisa's do-gooderisms gone wrong.
And Snorky at the Town meeting is great.
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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#337 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:30 pm

I watched everything you recommended and did like Night of the Dolphin and The Ned Zone from the later seasons, but not enough to shake up my top 10. (It already killed me to leave out I Know What You Diddily Iddily Did.)

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#338 Post by barryconvex » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:03 pm

In the words of C. Montgomery Burns "Huzzah to the shopkeep!!" Or thank you Swo for compiling..And nobody voted for Homer to the Max? I should've spotlighted that one as I think it's the only episode from the later years that could've fit into the earlier seasons...

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#339 Post by Ribs » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:25 pm

Stealing domino's top ten plus Orphans format:

1 Simpson and Delilah
2 Lisa's Substitute
3 Radio Bart
4 And Maggie Makes Three
5 Bart Sells His Soul
6 Bart Gets an F
7 Homer the Heretic
8 Homer's Triple Bypass
9 Homer vs the 18th Amendment
10 Lisa's First Word

Orphans:
26 Burns, Baby, Burns
30 This Little Wiggy
32 Lisa Gets an A
34 Like Father, Like Clown
38 The War of the Simpsons
40 Fear of Flying
41 Homer Loves Flanders
42 Much Apu About Nothing
43 The Springfield Connection
47 I Married Marge

I find it oddly appropriate that my apparently Season 5-hating heart was the only one to feature Homer Loves Flanders.

I expect I am the single person who didn't include Last Exit to Springfield; I left a spot open for it up until the day before I submitted my list, then watched it and had a sour taste in my mouth so opted for some rejigging instead.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#340 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:31 pm

When I made that hint I was talking about Radio Bart, which appeared on all of the first seven lists submitted, but on only one of the last three.

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#341 Post by Ribs » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:34 pm

Oh, I wasn't referring to your hint, just a guess that I probably was the combo breaker for that particular beloved episode. (Though this statement makes no sense, considering that now I can see 8 users listed it, meaning me and one other are responsible for its successfully staving off the top spot of another list)

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#342 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:54 pm

Everyone voted for at least one of the top 2 episodes, so I can tell that 6 out of the 10 participants apparently prefer Last Exit to Substitute. It also got more votes and more #1 votes (well, one more each) but the lowest placement for Substitute was 30, and Last Exit had three placements lower than that.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#343 Post by barryconvex » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:17 pm

My final top ten plus orphans:

1) DEEP SPACE HOMER
2) LAST EXIT TO SPRINGFIELD
3) HOMER GOES TO COLLEGE
4) ROSEBUD
5) TREEHOUSE OF HORROR III
6) LADY BOUVIER’S LOVER
7) BURNS’ HEIR
8) BRUSH WITH GREATNESS
9) BART GETS FAMOUS
10) DUFFLESS

SATURDAYS OF THUNDER
THE OTTO SHOW
MARGE GETS A JOB
THE FRONT
HOMER TO THE MAX

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#344 Post by Lemmy Caution » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:27 am

A later episode I should have touted:

Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore S17, E17.
The Springfield Nuclear Power Plant gets entirely outsourced to India, with Homer in charge.
Homer gets drunk with power and a whole Heart of Darkness riff ensues.
Meanwhile Selma and Patty kidnap Richard Dean Anderson when he turns out to be totally disinterested in McGyver, only for him to go all McGyver on them.
This was a late cut from my list, and easily could have made my Top 50.

There's also Dial "N" for Nerder S19, E17
In which news of Martin's death is greatly exaggerated.
With Nelson in a detective/Colombo role.
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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#345 Post by Lemmy Caution » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:32 am

I never understood the popularity of Homer Goes to College, Homer at the Bat and Homer Badman. None of those appeals to me much at all. Otoh, I like the Monorail episode but it wasn't really close to making my list.

To some extent, how much I like an episode these days pretty much refers to how re-watchable it is, since I've seen all the S1-S20 episodes at least twice and some seasons as many 4 times. And some individual favorite episodes more than that.

88. Bart's Comet S6E14 58/2/17
89. Three Men and a Comic Book S2E21 57/2/12
I was surprised these didn't fare better. Both only made one more list, and I provided the high vote for them.

I also thought Stark Raving Dad (the pink shirt/Michael Jackson episode) was considered a classic and would have made more than 4 lists.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#346 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:00 am

Awesome work, swo, thank you. There are a few shockers in there! Genuinely surprised to see The PTA Disbands among the orphans, and HOMЯ tying with Bart vs. Australia feels like it should be punishable by a booting.

My Top 10 and Orphans:

01. Homer Badman
02. A Milhouse Divided
03. Duffless
04. Lisa's Substitute
05. Homer the Heretic
06. And Maggie Makes Three
07. Bart vs. Australia
08. Bart Sells His Soul
09. Kamp Krusty
10. Homer Goes to College
12. The PTA Disbands
19. Lisa the Vegetarian
42. Team Homer

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#347 Post by dustybooks » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:39 am

Many thanks as always to swo for his outstanding achievement in the field of excellence.

For the record, I'm the other person who didn't vote for "Last Exit to Springfield"; I like it and it's very funny, but as already mentioned in the thread, I prefer the episodes that tell a somewhat more coherent, relaxed story. Nothing against it, it's just not one of my top favorites, but I know it's a universally beloved episode. (Much more blasphemous is that I don't like the monorail episode much at all. Just not my sense of humor, it seems.) Meanwhile I rewatched "Bart the Lover" last night and what a phenomenal episode that is, with initially disconnected events flowing naturally into one another, a group of great and amusing asides (the opening parody of Case of Spring Fever-like industrial shorts in particular), and a secondary character given center stage but treated with respect and integrity. Plus the family interactions seem so sincere and felt. It's this sort of thing I miss in the later seasons. Most importantly, though, there are big laughs in nearly every scene -- even though I've seen the episode numerous times in the past twenty years.

I would be interested to see how our list would stack up against a more dedicated Simpsons forum run similarly; I suspect that the high placement of episodes like "Rosebud" and "Radio Bart" owe at least a little to this being a board for cinephiles.

Top 10 / orphans...

1. Lisa's Substitute
2. Summer of 4 Ft. 2
3. Bart vs. Thanksgiving
4. Lisa's Wedding
5. Bart Gets an F
6. Moaning Lisa
7. Home Sweet Homediddily-Dum-Doodily
8. A Streetcar Named Marge
9. Life on the Fast Lane - ORPHAN
10. Bart Sells His Soul - I feel an inexplicable need to mention that this is my wife's favorite episode.
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23. Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment - ORPHAN
32. Bart's Friend Falls in Love - ORPHAN
45. Principal Charming - ORPHAN; everyone rewatch this one when you can, it's incredibly funny.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#348 Post by Lemmy Caution » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:56 am

A terrific "later" episode is Trilogy of Error S12.
It really should have been on my list, but I forgot to look it up.
Three version of the same morning of events from different character's points of view.
Linguo the grammar robot, Homer with only one opposable digit, Krusty drops Lisa off at West Springfield Elementary (the laughter in French class is a great little touch). Good stuff.
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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#349 Post by swo17 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:58 am

dustybooks wrote:I suspect that the high placement of episodes like "Rosebud" and "Radio Bart" owe at least a little to this being a board for cinephiles.

10. Bart Sells His Soul - I feel an inexplicable need to mention that this is my wife's favorite episode.
My wife's favorite episode is Lisa on Ice. And my love for Rosebud has nothing to do with its allusions to Citizen Kane--it's just a really sharp and funny episode.

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Re: The Simpsons List Discussion and Suggestions

#350 Post by dustybooks » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:29 pm

swo17 wrote:And my love for Rosebud has nothing to do with its allusions to Citizen Kane--it's just a really sharp and funny episode.
Oh it's the same for me, though it does enhance the show a bit now. I didn't see Kane till 2004, at which point my first viewing of it was like a revelation of finally catching Simpsons gags (including smaller ones like Homer in the audience in "A Streetcar Named Marge" and the squawking bird in -- I think -- "Simpson and Delilah").

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