It also depends on what they mean by 'major works' and 'restored'... Whatever the situation, I don't think anyone can say this is the last time anyone's going to work on his catalogue, so I wouldn't worry about it.kwippleton wrote:This article about the restored Eight Hours Don't Make a Day mentions that it's the 'the last of his major works to be restored.'
http://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/ ... 201976919/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hopefully they meant 'latest' and not final?
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neilist wrote:It also depends on what they mean by 'major works' and 'restored'... Whatever the situation, I don't think anyone can say this is the last time anyone's going to work on his catalogue, so I wouldn't worry about it.kwippleton wrote:This article about the restored Eight Hours Don't Make a Day mentions that it's the 'the last of his major works to be restored.'
http://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/ ... 201976919/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hopefully they meant 'latest' and not final?
Oh, definitely. There's still the longer cut of Querelle, for one, plus the English/Deutsch versions of Lili Marleen
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They don't mention that they're from new restorations but, in the BFI's ongoing Fassbinder retrospective, the only films listed as being screened from 'Digital 4K' (as opposed to just 'Digital' or 35mm) are In a Year of 13 Moons, Lola, The Third Generation and Germany in Autumn. I think it remember being said that the Arrow boxset released last March collected all of the restorations up until that point, which would mean that they must have all been restored since then?
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I would like to point out a quirk of the Amazon.de website.
If you choose the option of translating the page in English, it shows the audio language for this set as English. Being almost certain this is incorrect, I changed the option to see the page in the original language (German), and then it showed the audio language correctly as Deutsch.
I have observed this problem with Amazon.it and Amazon.fr as well (for both audio and subtitle languages).
So if you want to order any item based on the translated page, it may be wise to verify the audio/subtitle language by viewing the information in the original site language.
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Lola due out in July from Studiocanal, with a boxset coming later this year:
http://www.cineoutsider.com/news/storie ... 70513.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.cineoutsider.com/news/storie ... 70513.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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What could be the content of the set? BRD trilogy is unlikely since Arrow has released Maria Braun already. And is Arrow not going to release another set that collects the newest batch of restored Fassbinder films?
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The older AE DVD sets contain (Vol I) Lola, Martha, Why Does Herr R. Run Amok? and (Vol II) Veronika Voss, In a Year of Thirteen Moons, The Third Generation, and Germany in Autumn so I'd imagine it's some combination therein.andyli wrote:What could be the content of the set? BRD trilogy is unlikely since Arrow has released Maria Braun already. And is Arrow not going to release another set that collects the newest batch of restored Fassbinder films?
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Fassbinder in Shanghai
The Shanghai Film Festival has a mini-spotlight on Fassbinder and Melville, showing 5 films from both directors.
For Fassbinder:
Love is Colder than Death
Fear Eats the Soul
Fontane Effi Briest
Chinese Roulette
World on a Wire
Veronika Voss
I've never seen Chinese Roulette as I picked up a copy without English subs. Hope the time/location is reasonable so I can get to it.
I'm a big fan of Veronica Voss, and would love to see it on a big screen.
Maybe I can drag my 22 year old niece with me (hey, I dragged her to China), as I'm sure she's never seen a Fassbinder film before.
For Fassbinder:
Love is Colder than Death
Fear Eats the Soul
Fontane Effi Briest
Chinese Roulette
World on a Wire
Veronika Voss
I've never seen Chinese Roulette as I picked up a copy without English subs. Hope the time/location is reasonable so I can get to it.
I'm a big fan of Veronica Voss, and would love to see it on a big screen.
Maybe I can drag my 22 year old niece with me (hey, I dragged her to China), as I'm sure she's never seen a Fassbinder film before.
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Chinese Roulette is great, but let's get back to the meaty bits:
So does anybody know if Lorenz has plans set for the long version of Querelle to ever surface? She talked about it a few times, but people have set her statements into strong doubt. Then again...
So does anybody know if Lorenz has plans set for the long version of Querelle to ever surface? She talked about it a few times, but people have set her statements into strong doubt. Then again...
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Interestingly, the older Arrow Fassbinder DVD sets have become unavailable, so we'll see what happens with many of these films.
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Second Sight will be releasing Berlin Alexanderplatz on Blu-Ray in the UK by the end of the year.
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Lots of new releases coming out in Germany and the UK this Fall:
September 21, 2017
Fontane Effi Briest German Blu Ray, DVD http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/fonta ... st-blu-ray http://www.studiocanal.de/dvd/fontane_e ... remastered
German audio only, no bonus content listed
Deutschland im Herbst German Blu Ray, DVD http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/deuts ... st-blu-ray http://www.studiocanal.de/dvd/deutschla ... remastered
German audio and subtitle, bonus content
First time on Blu Ray
Die Ehe der Maria Braun German Blu Ray http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/die_e ... un-blu-ray
German audio, no bonus content listed
Lola German Blu Ray http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/lola-blu-ray
UK Blu Ray already out with bonus 2017 interviews
September 25, 2017
Eight Hours Don't Make A Day Limited Edition UK Blu-ray https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072NZDZXX/
So far only German edition was available with no English subtitles, this one will have it and more.
November 16, 2017
Best of Rainer Werner Fassbinder 10 DVDs https://www.amazon.de/Best-Rainer-Werne ... 0743B4XJG/
Martha German Blu Ray https://www.amazon.de/Martha-Blu-ray-Sp ... 074376J2R/
4K remastering, first time ever on Blu Ray anywhere
November 27, 2017
Berlin Alexanderplatz UK Blu Ray
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Berlin-Alexand ... B074R3ZMZF
German Blu Ray already out
September 21, 2017
Fontane Effi Briest German Blu Ray, DVD http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/fonta ... st-blu-ray http://www.studiocanal.de/dvd/fontane_e ... remastered
German audio only, no bonus content listed
Deutschland im Herbst German Blu Ray, DVD http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/deuts ... st-blu-ray http://www.studiocanal.de/dvd/deutschla ... remastered
German audio and subtitle, bonus content
First time on Blu Ray
Die Ehe der Maria Braun German Blu Ray http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/die_e ... un-blu-ray
German audio, no bonus content listed
Lola German Blu Ray http://www.studiocanal.de/blu-ray/lola-blu-ray
UK Blu Ray already out with bonus 2017 interviews
September 25, 2017
Eight Hours Don't Make A Day Limited Edition UK Blu-ray https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072NZDZXX/
So far only German edition was available with no English subtitles, this one will have it and more.
November 16, 2017
Best of Rainer Werner Fassbinder 10 DVDs https://www.amazon.de/Best-Rainer-Werne ... 0743B4XJG/
Martha German Blu Ray https://www.amazon.de/Martha-Blu-ray-Sp ... 074376J2R/
4K remastering, first time ever on Blu Ray anywhere
November 27, 2017
Berlin Alexanderplatz UK Blu Ray
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Berlin-Alexand ... B074R3ZMZF
German Blu Ray already out
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Last night I watched the Blu-ray of Martha which got released in Germany a couple of weeks ago. It looks rought, there are improvements in color and contrast over the DVD, but not in terms of detail and resolution. The booklet states that they did a 2k scan of the 16mm reversal filmstock Martha was shot on, so this may well be down to the filmstock used, I’m not knowledgeable enough about reversal stock. To me the end result looks more like it was taken from a video source. I recently watched Eight Hours are not a Day, also shot on 16mm for TV but it looks far superior. This is by far the most disappointing of the Fassbinder restorations I’ve seen, which is a shame because Martha is one of my favourites.
It doesn’t look too bad here, but when watched on a large display it doesn’t hold up:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11163 ... =0&l=0&a=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It doesn’t look too bad here, but when watched on a large display it doesn’t hold up:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11163 ... =0&l=0&a=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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As somebody who has seen this on 35mm... I can attest to the screen grabs looking a LOT better than what is "out there". The print I saw looked very much like the DVD - discolored and worn out. So this is very pleasing to my eyes - I do agree, though, that they probably went with a low bitrate for the Blu (god knows why, but Arthouse is 'amazing' at messing these up). Fingers crossed Criterion will make a call and snatch the restoration.Lost Highway wrote: It doesn’t look too bad here, but when watched on a large display it doesn’t hold up:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11163 ... =0&l=0&a=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Can someone point me to a list of all the 4K/2K restorations completed/scheduled by the foundation. I'm mostly curious about the status of three films that, from my understanding, were restored in some capacity for DVD many years ago, but that may or may not be included in the foundation's more recent efforts: HERR R, FEAR OF FEAR, and MOTHER KUSTER. I'm also curious if WILD GAME (JAIL BAIT) has any hope of being restored, or if earlier discussions revealed that a restoration of this film definitely will not happen, perhaps due to legal disputes between Fassbinder and the film's writer.
In any event, I've had little success trying to navigate the foundation's website for a full list of restorations, so any help would be appreciated. And my apologies if the answer is easily findable.
In any event, I've had little success trying to navigate the foundation's website for a full list of restorations, so any help would be appreciated. And my apologies if the answer is easily findable.
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Wildwechsel seems stuck in hell - I didn't come across any news. Which is odd, as it never was banned per se... it seems more like a "silent agreement" type situation. If anybody knows anything, news would be much appreciated.
Aside of that - has the "long cut" of Querelle ever been mentioned aside of Lorenz' remarks a few years ago? I recall somebody chiming in that the producers "had no prior knowledge of the existence of such a cut".
Aside of that - has the "long cut" of Querelle ever been mentioned aside of Lorenz' remarks a few years ago? I recall somebody chiming in that the producers "had no prior knowledge of the existence of such a cut".
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After announcing the BA upgrade, I'm curious to see what Criterion has planned for their next Fassbinder. Of the Wellspring titles they grabbed the rights to years ago, it seems they have focused on the 'Fassbinder 101' canon of Fox and his Friends, Merchant, Petra von Kant and threw the early works into an Eclipse.
So I'm curious if they will put a Fear of Fear or Satan's Brew out on blu-ray, or Mother Kuster (which is a top Fassbinder imo). Keep going with the popular titles and upgrade the BRD trilogy?
Or will they hopefully show up with their edition of Querelle finally? While we are at it, didn't Olive announced the longer cut of The Stationmaster's Wife back in 2010 when Despair and I Only Want You to Love Me was released? What ever happened to that?
So I'm curious if they will put a Fear of Fear or Satan's Brew out on blu-ray, or Mother Kuster (which is a top Fassbinder imo). Keep going with the popular titles and upgrade the BRD trilogy?
Or will they hopefully show up with their edition of Querelle finally? While we are at it, didn't Olive announced the longer cut of The Stationmaster's Wife back in 2010 when Despair and I Only Want You to Love Me was released? What ever happened to that?
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Stationmaster's Wife/Bollwieser INDEED was announced. I have no clue what happened.SpiderBaby wrote: ↑Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:24 amOr will they hopefully show up with their edition of Querelle finally? While we are at it, didn't Olive announced the longer cut of The Stationmaster's Wife back in 2010 when Despair and I Only Want You to Love Me was released? What ever happened to that?
Again - Querelle is a fascinating beast. There's no journalist who seems intent on grilling Lorenz a bit more on if that cut could potentially ever see a release, if she's working on it or if she can even produce the proof she claims she has...
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For some reason Amazon has added new streaming options for Fox and His Friends, Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant and Katzelmacher to their video service in the last week and the rights are credited to Arrow Films:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_date ... -desc-rank
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_date ... -desc-rank
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Looks like The Third Generation is getting a blu-ray in Germany from a 4K restoration. Hope we get an English friendly release soon.
https://www.amazon.de/dritte-Generation ... 07KLJNBPG/
Edit:
And one for In a Year with 13 Moons.
https://www.amazon.de/einem-Jahr-mit-Mo ... 07KLCRY6R/
https://www.amazon.de/dritte-Generation ... 07KLJNBPG/
Edit:
And one for In a Year with 13 Moons.
https://www.amazon.de/einem-Jahr-mit-Mo ... 07KLCRY6R/
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Querelle is playing on TCM right now with the Criterion logo along with the Janus logo in front. Seems to be the next C release.
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There were half a dozen Fassbinders that played on Filmstruck with the Criterion logo that they've yet to release. Of course, I can recall none of them beyond Querelle.SpiderBaby wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:04 amQuerelle is playing on TCM right now with the Criterion logo along with the Janus logo in front. Seems to be the next C release.
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The following unannounced Fassbinder films were on Filmstruck:headacheboy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:25 pmThere were half a dozen Fassbinders that played on Filmstruck with the Criterion logo that they've yet to release. Of course, I can recall none of them beyond Querelle.SpiderBaby wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:04 amQuerelle is playing on TCM right now with the Criterion logo along with the Janus logo in front. Seems to be the next C release.
Effi Briest
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven
Chinese Roulette
Satan’s Brew
Querelle
So, it could be any of those. Though I have noticed an interesting pattern where a film plays on TCM and then gets announced by Criterion a month or two later. Like I'm fairly sure A Brighter Summer Day played on TCM quite a bit before being announced, and then hasn't really played again since. There must be some oddball programming deal between Criterion and TCM to build up hype. If we could access older TCM schedules, we could probably prove this theory.
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