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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1176 Post by nolanoe » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:42 am

Divertimento was just a "short version", no?
These are quite strange in the context of Rivette. As far as I understand, he sometimes made shorts and then decided to "expand" on them, or experiment if he could cut things down (either for festivals or TV).

I still haven't seen Va Savoir (I hope I don't mess up the title), which apparently exists in a great long version that is hard to find and a readily available "TV edit", no?

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#1177 Post by MichaelB » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:51 am

nolanoe wrote:Divertimento was just a "short version", no?
No. It was sourced from the same shoot, but often uses different takes and offers a substantially different perspective on the material.

Put it like this: it would be impossible to recreate it from the restoration of La Belle Noiseuse itself.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1178 Post by nolanoe » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:52 am

MichaelB wrote:
nolanoe wrote:Divertimento was just a "short version", no?
No. It was sourced from the same shoot, but often uses different takes and offers a substantially different perspective on the material.
Ah, very interesting. Would you say it's worth the time, or is it merely "an alternative" to the long cut?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1179 Post by MichaelB » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:15 am

Yes, absolutely - it's designed to be a companion-piece, and its major point of interest is that it's depicted much more from the perspective of the artist's wife (Jane Birkin) and model (Emmanuelle Béart), whereas La Belle Noiseuse itself focused far more on his viewpoint (unsurprisingly, given the core subject).

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1180 Post by dda1996a » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:11 am

Any info on the release of the recently found Rivette shorts?
And where can one see Divertimento?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1181 Post by Michael Kerpan » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:28 am

There was an Asian DVD release (with subs) of Divertimento long long ago, not sure if this is still in print. I found Divertimento interesting -- but thought Belle noiseuse actually FELT shorter.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1182 Post by domino harvey » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:34 am

It was on the third disc of the (OOP) Artificial Eye DVD release

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1183 Post by antnield » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:39 am

Also on Artificial Eye's Emmanuelle Béart DVD set - which may be OOP too.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1184 Post by dda1996a » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:07 am

dda1996a wrote:Any info on the release of the recently found Rivette shorts?
And where can one see Divertimento?
Any new info regarding the shorts?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1185 Post by Petty Bourgeoisie » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:10 am

Not that I know of, but the restoration of Le Religieuse will premier at Cannes next month. So there is that bit of good news!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1186 Post by dda1996a » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:39 am

It will be really good news when the shorts and Le Religieuse are all released on blu-ray

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1187 Post by nick » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:55 pm

Details for the Cohen La Belle Noiseuse bluray
Special Features and Technical Specs:
-BRAND NEW 4K RESTORATION OF THE FILM
-Two-disc Blu-ray set featuring the complete original four-hour version of La Belle Noiseuse
-Video interview with director Jacques Rivette
-Video interview with co-writers Pascal Bonitzer and Christine Laurent
-Audio commentary track by film historian Richard Suchenski
-4K Restoration 2017 theatrical re-release original trailer
-Optional English subtitles for the main feature
So it doesn't look like they will be including 'Divertimento' on this release.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1188 Post by furbicide » Sat May 05, 2018 10:03 am

I missed the Artificial Eye 3-disc set when it was still generally available and not priced through the roof, and tried to purchase the Béart box set a while back, but my order ended up being cancelled after months of waiting. I’d thought it might be getting a re-release soon, so, now this is apparently not the case, I’ve just given up and bought a videotape of Divertimento on Ebay for 20 bucks – better than nothing, hey? :P
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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1189 Post by bearcuborg » Sat May 05, 2018 10:42 am

furbicide wrote:I missed the Artificial Eye 3-disc set when it was still generally available and not priced through the roof, and tried to purchase the Béart box set a while back, but my order ended up being cancelled after months of waiting. I’d thought it might be getting a re-release soon, so, now this is apparently not the case, I’ve just given up and bought a videotape of Divertimento on Ebay for 20 bucks – better than nothing, hey? :P
Rivette, and Von Stroheim are the main reason I haven’t completely ditched my VHS machine. That, and a ton of MTV from the 90s tapes.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1190 Post by JSC » Wed May 30, 2018 9:28 pm

La Religieuse coming to blu-ray in September courtesy of Studio Canal.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/La-Religi ... ay/206579/

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1191 Post by furbicide » Thu May 31, 2018 9:29 am

Can’t wait! Astounding to think it’s taken this long to get an English-friendly release in any form.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1192 Post by soundchaser » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:47 pm

Ahead of StudioCanal's release of The Nun, I just wanted to ask if anyone's heard anything about the Cohen or L'amour fou restoration timelines. I'm slowly working my way through Rivette's oeuvre, and I'd rather see things nicely cleaned-up if possible. (I watched Va Savoir in a non-anamorphic stream from Amazon last night and thought the generally murky picture hindered any enjoyment I could have gotten out of the film, which I found unusually drab for Rivette.)

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1193 Post by Michael Kerpan » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:44 pm

Va savoir -- when screened (or otherwise looks good) is a lot of fun. Too bad the Amazon stream is cruddy....

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1194 Post by soundchaser » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:05 pm

Michael Kerpan wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:44 pm
Va savoir -- when screened (or otherwise looks good) is a lot of fun. Too bad the Amazon stream is cruddy....
I was doubly disappointed because I picked the stream with the knowledge that the DVD was non-anamorphic. It could very well have been a straight rip of that disc. The film didn't do a lot for me, I hate to say, although I enjoyed it more than Merry Go-Round. It felt very...weightless? And Balibar's performance did nothing for me - she seemed totally disconnected from the material. I should mention that I'd just come off of Haut, Bas, Fragile, which quickly catapulted itself to my list of all-time greats. I'm sure that didn't help. :wink:

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1195 Post by Gregory » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:12 pm

The R1 Sony DVD is anamorphic.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1196 Post by soundchaser » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:15 pm

Well, egg on my face, then. I must have been conflating it with the Image DVDs.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1197 Post by Michael Kerpan » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:22 pm

I liked the whole main ensemble and their interactions with each other -- and loved the high wire climax. ;-)

It may have taken a little while initially to tune into Balibar's "grumpiness" (or whatever one might want to call it). Luckily, our initial exposure was to screening during its short theatrical run....

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1198 Post by Petty Bourgeoisie » Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:56 am

I need to rewatch my Sony DVD of Va Savoir. It's been about 3 years since my initial viewing and I was hoping for Va Savoir+ to appear, but it doesn't look likely.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1199 Post by Petty Bourgeoisie » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:00 am

soundchaser wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:47 pm
Ahead of StudioCanal's release of The Nun, I just wanted to ask if anyone's heard anything about the Cohen or L'amour fou restoration timelines.
I would like to hear some info as well. I'm patiently awaiting DVD Beaver to get a copy of Canal's new release. It will be interesting to see if the colors are correct in comparison to the teal disaster that was the trailer.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1200 Post by dda1996a » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:31 am

What truly interests me is what's the plan with the newfound shorts

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