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#26 Post by Highway 61 » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:01 pm

Osbourne is so reliably terrible. Who is he anyway? What are his credentials? I sometimes wonder if TCM hired him based on the sole possibility that channel surfers might confuse him for Roger Ebert.

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#27 Post by tojoed » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:47 am

As David Hare has posted in the new R4 titles, Madman has just released Les Cousins..

I thought I would mention it here as this is great news. This film has been hard to see for a long time.

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#28 Post by domino harvey » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:38 pm

Worth noting that those two Chabrols are Janus titles, so as soon as we all order our copies, that New Wave Eclipse set gets announced. But I can risk it, because these are two important Chabrol titles, and Les Cousins is one of his absolute best films

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#29 Post by david hare » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:37 pm

The masters for these two from Gaumont while "clean" are not restored, and almost certainly not HD. While they're perfectly serviceable I don't think they would be good enough for Crit or even Eclipse.

Beau Serge was previously unseen by me and despite being a kind of reversal of the same actors' characters in a rural setting, the movie is not a great success, in fact both the actors and the narrative construction seem clumsy and mannered.

Les Cousins is altogether another kettle of fish - a really masterful unfolding of Chabrol's obsessions, and a sinuous, elegant, livelly mise en scene, right from the start. Terrific movie, one of his best. (It may also be my favorite Brialy performance.)

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#30 Post by domino harvey » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:22 pm

For Americans, I just ordered Les Cousins direct from Madman and it only came out to about $22 American with shipping. If nothing else, Criterion won't be licensing the Adrian Martin commentary and any moderate to severe Chabrol fan can't pass this one up!

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#32 Post by Gregory » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:41 pm

What is going on with La Femme Infidele in the R2 Arrow Chabrol Collection? It's stretched out to 2.35:1. I know if could have to do with playback, but I have never had this happen before. In the interest of troubleshooting, I've tried changing player and projector ratio settings, and this does not solve the problem. Has anyone else had this experience?

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#33 Post by kuzine » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:45 am

Gregory wrote:What is going on with La Femme Infidele in the R2 Arrow Chabrol Collection? It's stretched out to 2.35:1. I know if could have to do with playback, but I have never had this happen before. In the interest of troubleshooting, I've tried changing player and projector ratio settings, and this does not solve the problem. Has anyone else had this experience?
I watched this yesterday coincidentally. Had to put my tv to 4:3 (instead of just scan). Then it looked ok (1.66:1-ish), but pictureboxed of course. Tried fiddling with the zoom settings of my tv, but gave up rather soon because it changed the AR again. Weak transfer colorwise too, but enjoyed the movie nevertheless.

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#34 Post by Gregory » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:22 am

I tried all the different aspect ratio settings on my player, and on the projector I tried adjusting both the aspect ratio and the screen size (16:9 or 2.35:1). Nothing worked, including setting both projector and player to 4:3 at the same time. I guess I'm glad I've seen the film before, at least, but I was really looking forward to seeing it again.

I've watched all other discs in both the Chabrol sets (a large mixture of anamorphic and non-anamorphic presentations) and this was a totally unique occurrence. The price was definitely right, at least.

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#35 Post by domino harvey » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:37 am

I think it's like 1.78 but then squished down to an MO-esque 2:1 for some reason, ie unwatchable

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#36 Post by Camera Obscura » Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:54 pm

Gregory wrote:What is going on with La Femme Infidele in the R2 Arrow Chabrol Collection? It's stretched out to 2.35:1. I know if could have to do with playback, but I have never had this happen before. In the interest of troubleshooting, I've tried changing player and projector ratio settings, and this does not solve the problem. Has anyone else had this experience?
It's a shitty release, barely watchable. Not much you can do about it.

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#37 Post by Gregory » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:52 pm

Thanks to both for confirming that it's not my setup. I may be been unsure partly out of surprise that no one had mentioned this problem on the forum before. Anyway, I agree that it's unwatchable.

A major discovery in watching the 14 discs of these Arrow sets has been Les Noces Rouges. It's a pretty deft combination, one the one hand, of the kind of thriller we expect from Chabrol; and on the other an unusually explicit political satire that at points borders on farce. Perhaps not his greatest film but an underrated one.

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#38 Post by Perkins Cobb » Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:05 am

domino harvey wrote:I think it's like 1.78 but then squished down to an MO-esque 2:1 for some reason, ie unwatchable
This sucks. I fiddled with mine and managed to play it squeezed at around 1.66 or squashed at about 2.0, and either way it's pretty hard to take. Is the Pathfinder R1 disc any better?

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#39 Post by Gregory » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:32 pm

The R1 is fine, at least in terms of ratio (otherwise the transfer is nothing to write home about).

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#40 Post by James » Sun May 24, 2009 11:41 am

I started watching the R1 DVD of Le boucher last night and the left and right sides seemed to be cut off as I was watching the opening credits, and I could only guess the rest of the things I saw likely were too. Is this normal?

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#41 Post by domino harvey » Sun May 24, 2009 3:09 pm

If memory serves (apologies but my DVDs are all packed up right now), the film is 1.66 and the R1 gives a close approximation (like something between 1.58-1.78?). I can't remember what the R2 is like, but I'm pretty sure it was in the same ballpark-- there is no good print of the film out there, unfortunately.

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#42 Post by James » Sun May 24, 2009 3:12 pm

domino harvey wrote:If memory serves (apologies but my DVDs are all packed up right now), the film is 1.66 and the R1 gives a close approximation (like something between 1.58-1.78?). I can't remember what the R2 is like, but I'm pretty sure it was in the same ballpark-- there is no good print of the film out there, unfortunately.
Okay, thanks for the help. I figured it was just something like that.

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#43 Post by sevenarts » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:35 am

Flickhead's Claude Chabrol blog-a-thon is going on now, until June 30.

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#44 Post by Ishmael » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:43 am

james wrote:I started watching the R1 DVD of Le boucher last night and the left and right sides seemed to be cut off as I was watching the opening credits, and I could only guess the rest of the things I saw likely were too. Is this normal?
This answer's probably too late to do you any good, but I had the same problem. I had to go into my DVD player's menu and change the setting to widescreen. The disc is flagged incorrectly, I guess. The left and right sides are there, but the player cropped them off until I changed the setting.

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#45 Post by david hare » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:29 pm

There is a boot of les Godelureaux doing the rounds - presumably it's from the old Aventi disc as the "provider" bought it on ebay. Custom subs were added but may need re synching. I'll be able to post some caps later today but it looks like correct 1.66 and quite a clean image.

Like almost everyone I've never seen it, but this early sixties period generally is very rewarding. If only there was a subbed Landru. Perfect Chabrol material!

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#46 Post by puxzkkx » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:34 am

I haven't seen much older Chabrol, but I have very mixed feelings on his newer work. His recent films are incredibly entertaining, thought-provoking and deliciously acted... but not very well scripted, and most of them (La Ceremonie esp.) have plot holes you could drive a truck through.

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#47 Post by david hare » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:22 am

Godelureaux is an express train of a movie - he gives the role of unbridled id to Brialy again (who seems to have a boyfriend - finally!) and the movie progresss through a witches pageant of Bunuelesque epater le bourgeoisie . Perhaps the highlight is a central tableau of a hilarious Orphans' Benefit dinner for the pillars of society (including a gaggle of nuns and priests), with waiters wearing Beethoven wigs and 18th Century livery for which Brialy stages a lurid burlesque segment, kicking off with Stephane Audran in bunny girl costume, doing a hoochy cooch routine which almost puts Debra Paget's number from Tiger von Esch to shame, and follows it with an old crone from the Monmartre dive days who sings a filthy pre war cabaret song (unstranslated in this copy.) The tone is unmitigated camp, viz Chabrol chanelling Bunuel through Kenneth Anger.

All the themes, from Cousins on are there, but even Robin Wood in the Studio Vista book has trouble digesting it. In effect you can't, and probably shoudln't as the tone is essentially so frivolous as to resist serious moralizing.

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#48 Post by domino harvey » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:42 pm

God I'm jealous, it's been my most-wanted Chabrol release forever and I haven't been able to find it through the usual back-alley channels. It's so sad how much of sixties Chabrol is unavailable. Criterion, Eclipse set, hellllooooooooo

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#49 Post by justeleblanc » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:54 pm

domino harvey wrote:God I'm jealous, it's been my most-wanted Chabrol release forever and I haven't been able to find it through the usual back-alley channels. It's so sad how much of sixties Chabrol is unavailable. Criterion, Eclipse set, hellllooooooooo
I'm surprised Rialto hasn't bitten this guy yet.

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#50 Post by david hare » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:06 pm

There was a legit French DVD unsubbed which seems OOP. Also the title doesn't appear any more restored than say Les Cousins - it's probably an analogue source.The production company was Cocinor so the rights should be current. The boot circulating is correctly formatted to 1.66 anamorphic as an avi and there are optional subs which display some typical home made charms (like not translating the dirty cabaret song). But it's currently a download at the usual place (s). Nine times out of ten this signals an impending commercial release from someone like MoC - the Tete Contre les Murs with excellent custom subs was up literally one month before MoC's announcement. But it's a Gaumont property which seems to be MoC's main stream these days.

I don't intend my description of it to be dismissive BTW. It's one case in which Chabrol's wacky humor which so often flops (like the lunkheaded gay guys in les Biches etc) really gets an untramelled expression. I was laughing out loud quite a bit and certainly Uncle Claude gives Brialy a very personal role, very much as the director himself, to the point of literally articulating Chabrol's own misanthropic vision. Among many cross cinematic references - including Sternberg in two sumtuously decorated scenes- Godu is probably Chabrol's Orphee!

I agree an Eclipse of this, Landru, Ophelia and l'Oeil du Malin would be a real buzz. Not to mention a really sumtuous color print of a Double Tour.

Hell, I'd pay for a box of the Marie Chantal, Docteur Kha and le Tigre se Parfume a la dynamite - if only for the Jean Rabier photography.

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