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Nil by Mouth

#1 Post by MichaelB » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:19 am

From a BFI press release:
NIL BY MOUTH (1997) – Blu-ray World Premiere, September 16

The Blu-ray World Premiere of NIL BY MOUTH (1997), Gary Oldman's directorial debut, is a disturbing portrait of a dysfunctional South London family, starring Ray Winstone and Kathy Burke.

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#2 Post by Zot! » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:22 pm

I think "harrowing" is a fair assessment.

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#3 Post by swo17 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:37 pm

I only know this as the film that once held the record for most swears (which has since been broken a few times)

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#4 Post by colinr0380 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:06 pm

Its a great film (NSFW: Language) with a fantastic performance by Kathy Burke (better known for her BBC comedies at the time) in particular.

It might just be because both films feature career best performances from Ray Winstone and both are directed by actors but I would love to see the similarly harrowing The War Zone get some more attention too.

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#5 Post by MichaelB » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:13 pm

Both films are also conscious tributes to Alan Clarke, who got career-best performances out of them in Made in Britain (Roth’s first!) and The Firm.

And I believe an early association with Clarke didn’t exactly hurt Ray Winstone either.

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#6 Post by jazzo » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:09 pm

colinr0380 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:06 pm
Its a great film (NSFW: Language) with a fantastic performance by Kathy Burke (better known for her BBC comedies at the time) in particular.

It might just be because both films feature career best performances from Ray Winstone and both are directed by actors but I would love to see the similarly harrowing The War Zone get some more attention too.
Better than Crystal Skull?

Easy joke. Sorry.

Both performances are astonishing, although Sexy Beast has to fall somewhere in there.

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#7 Post by domino harvey » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:56 pm

swo17 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:37 pm
I only know this as the film that once held the record for most swears (which has since been broken a few times)
I believe it was specifically the record holder for the word "fuck" until the Wolf of Wall Street, discounting that documentary on the word "fuck," which I think is cheating to count!

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#8 Post by swo17 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:05 pm

But then apparently the Trailer Park Boys movie Swearnet beat them both

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#9 Post by domino harvey » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:11 pm

I got about fifty seconds into a YouTube compilation of Swearnet's "Best Parts," and I'm now pro-censorship

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#10 Post by colinr0380 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:16 pm

I suppose the South Park movie would be in the running too, although that varied its swear words up a bit! (NSFW: Language)

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#12 Post by MichaelB » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:01 pm

That’s only a list of films using the word “fuck”, but I’d be pretty staggered if Nil by Mouth didn’t score very highly indeed when it comes to films using the word “cunt”. I’m struggling to think of an obvious challenger.

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#13 Post by McCrutchy » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:15 pm

This is excellent news. I always wanted to see this film, but I was put off by the lack of a film-speed version with the original 5.1 audio. The UK DVD has 5.1, but I'm quite sensitive to PAL speed-up with English-language films, while the US DVD from Sony was another of their bizarre Dolby Surround-only jobs like The City of Lost Children, even though the film was released in Dolby Digital and Sony's 8-channel SDDS system theatrically. And I looked into a Japanese DVD, only to find that the DVD (and the film?) is heavily cut in Japan by about nine minutes (!), also has only 2.0 audio, and apparently never got a second pressing, so it is far out-of-print, anyway.

I hope Oldman is involved with the Blu-ray and that Winstone and Burke are involved in the extras. As I recall, neither the UK or US DVDs had any real extras, other than perhaps a trailer.

EDIT: Just saw that we'll have to wait for September...goodness me!

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#14 Post by colinr0380 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:11 am

One great thing I remember seeing at the time was a segment of Channel 4's very short lived single season attempt at doing a serious film show Kiss Kiss Bang Bang in 1998 (which has pretty much fallen into obscurity now and has an almost un-Google-able for information title that inevitably only brings up the Robert Downey Jr film), which instead of just interviewing Kathy Burke about Nil By Mouth instead took her to the cinema to review Hal Hartley's then latest film, Henry Fool. I seem to recall that she was a big fan of the filmmaker!

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