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knives
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Re: Adventure Time

#26 Post by knives » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:37 pm

My sister will be so pissed her B-day gift is now redundant. I'm glad they're doing the seasons separate though.


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Re: Adventure Time

#28 Post by Matt » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:26 pm

How do you even have Adventure Time toys without P-Bubs? I can't imagine Pendleton Ward supporting this decision, so it must have been a bunch of Cartoon Network suits in charge of the deal.

Though I wonder what McDonald's thinks of the fact that Beemo is sometimes a she, sometimes a he, and sometimes an it.

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Re: Adventure Time

#29 Post by rrot » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:46 pm

What kind of collection is it, really, if it doesn't have Lumpy Space Princess you guys?

My daughter will still want to collect them all, but the show is brimming with female characters that ought to have been represented. The four males chosen are "core" in a sense, I suppose. I think The Onion are correct that the decision regarding what chars would be included was influenced by McDonald's stereotypical "boy" toy versus "girl" toy paradigm. I wonder what the show demos really are. I always thought it was pretty appealing for girls (although my wife has no time for it)...

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Re: Adventure Time

#30 Post by Shrew » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:16 pm

The show definitely makes an effort to be approachable to all genders, but the marketing cabals (and to be sadly honest, a not insignificant swath of parents and their daughters) probably instantly equate "Adventure" with "boy." I'd guess that while the adult fanbase is probably more evenly split than "My Little Ponies" (which I'm assuming swings disturbingly male), the kids demo finds that boys mostly watch the former and girls the latter.

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Re: Adventure Time

#31 Post by karmajuice » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:37 pm

I mean, there's a whole gender-swap cast that has several episodes, for chrissakes. Princess Bubblegum is an enterprising (and, at times, unnervingly amoral) scientist. I think it has very widespread appeal and even makes a conscious effort to subvert gender paradigms.

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Re: Adventure Time

#32 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:51 pm

The season 4 episode, The Sons of Mars, is one of the weirdest, funniest things I've ever seen. Where was this level of imagination and creative freedom in the kids' shows of my youth? (tho', honestly, I've forgotten most of them, so that's not a fair question).

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Re: Adventure Time

#33 Post by domino harvey » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:09 pm

Australia is getting a complete series box in October. Apparently US WB gave up on Blu-rays after season 6, but I imagine we'll see an American version of the complete box announced soon. I lost track of this show a long time ago, but it's one I'd like to get caught up on at some point

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Re: Adventure Time

#34 Post by jazzo » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:49 am

After a cursory search, I can't seem to find any mention of this in the forums, so I’d like to make a suggestion to all who enjoy Adventure Time.

A few years ago, when I was the manager of Library Services for a Toronto art comics shop, a slightly socially awkward co-worker and pal of mine, who knew I was fond of Adventure Time after putting their comics in libraries for a few years, came up to me after my son's second birthday and said that, though he knew Ellis wasn't ready for it yet, when he turns five, STEVEN UNIVERSE will be the most important show in his life.

Well, after an odd assortment of best-of DVDs, Cartoon Network finally released the first season of SU this past year. I surprised my seven year-old son and five year-old daughter with it, and we dove in right away.

They loved every second. So did my wife and I.

A warm, funny (though, quite often, heartbreaking) gentle bath of musical whimsy, our entire family looked forward to our viewing nights.

Adventure Time is great - almost frightening in its portrayal of pure imagination - but there's something more grounded and, honestly, revolutionary about STEVEN UNIVERSE. It is maybe the most inclusive show on television, celebrating diversity and challenging reductive perspectives like nothing else I’ve seen.

Most importantly, it’s simply open. To everything.

Take from that what you will, but for my family, the rest of the series can't come out soon enough.

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Re: Adventure Time

#35 Post by What A Disgrace » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:32 am

I'm a big fan of Steven Universe, myself. I think its success with certain adult audiences puts it into the same "kids cartoon mostly successful with nostalgic hipsters" camp as Adventure Time, but it more than makes up for such classification by having such genuine, tremendous heart, sensitivity, and warmth. I would say its a lot more solid than Adventure Time as well - looking back at the early episodes, its clear to me that the show knows exactly what it is, and what its about, from the beginning, which makes for a tremendous watch. Even the seemingly throwaway "townie" episodes are utterly important to both the emotional and moral fabric of the show, and in the end, sometimes even its larger sci-fi fantasy story, such as when
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Lars, arguably the show's most unlikeable side character, winds up being redeemed, and transformed without ever discarding his core person
. And in the reverse, the fantastic monster aliens themselves are so often brought down to Earth (no pun intended) and humanized in a way that is absolutely unheard of in cartoons or anime, and I'm forever grateful that its stuck to its guns like this. Don't tell the kids this, because I'm a grown up and they tend not to take good advice to heart, but I think its the kind of show that kids SHOULD watch.

Not to use this perceived solidity as a cudgel against Adventure Time, mind you - part of the fun of that show was that it wasn't sure what it was, and that it had to invent itself and re-invent itself as it went. And unlike a lot of shows, I think its succeeded at doing so without losing itself - bumpy though the ride has been at times, it matured and grew as itself. Its chaotic imagination - a lack of "solidity", really - is its identity, and its embraced that from the start, right to its final four-part episode, which aired Monday, and which is a beautiful mess. There's quite a few kids' cartoons from the last decade I've enjoyed a good deal - Regular Show, the new Voltron and DuckTales, Wander Over Yonder, the second season of The Looney Tunes Show (what a shame that it was cancelled just as it found its footing), Gravity Falls, Legend of Korra...but those two shows are the ones which have stuck with me as being the current zenith of kids' cartoons in general.

I am curious as to what the future will hold for quality kids' cartoons - I have a little nephew now, so I feel its my uncley duty to keep up on these things in the future, even if I myself might inevitably lose interest. Voltron, probably the biggest of the 'streaming only' kids cartoons, is ending after its next season, Adventure Time is over now, Korra, Regular Show and Gravity Falls are long gone, Wander and Looney Tunes ended prematurely, and Steven Universe seems to be winding down to its final conflicts. Even the Pony show, which bores me to tears but certainly has notoriety beyond its humble intentions and origins, is ending after a very impressive run of nine seasons - it'll have over 200 episodes, twenty two or so minutes in length, to its name, which eclipses the '87 TMNT, which I think is the champion of the merchandise driven half-hour cartoon series in terms of productivity and longevity (and its worth noting that the horse show had a much less bumpy ride to get there). Only DuckTales seems a likely staple for the future, with its first season having just ended. Is there anything interesting on the horizon? Some things I'm missing?

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knives
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Re: Adventure Time

#36 Post by knives » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:49 am

Presumably Adam Muto is going to do something now that Adventure Time has ended.

To add a good word to Adventure Time I think that ungainly growth it experienced is largely reflective of its protagonist the same way that Steven Universe's complex emotional assurance is reflective of its protagonist. In a weird way this is like Boyhood where we get to see Finn start off as an adventure ready land of imagination kid and age into an intellectually assured adult. In a weird way he has become Billy. Also narratively it really is hard to emphasize just how new it has been. In American television the only real precedent of action and comedy was Teen Titans which had a much larger division between animation and drama to the point where the later more serious seasons dropped many of the animation gags.

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Re: Adventure Time

#37 Post by jazzo » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:14 pm

Thanks for the wonderful insights What a Disgrace. Our family hasn't moved beyond the released first season set, so of Cartoon Network ever gets around to releasing the rest of Steven we have much to look forward to.

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