A sentiment that only right-wingers seems to actually still genuinely believe.
Of course, Bernie Sanders seems to be the latest attempting to do this... though he's noticeably making fewer waves these days, presumably because he wants to run for president with them again in 2020 -- even as the party is actively trying to hatch schemes to fuck him over again. It'll be more difficult to do it this time, given he'll have tons more name recognition and a lot more people will be paying attention to the shenanigans they'll try to pull this time around... but I wouldn't put it past them to figure out something. Let's face it: the Dems would rather lose to the GOP's with a milquetoast neoliberal (read: Republicans who are OK with gay people and minorities, in the words of Jimmy Dore; used to be abortion as well, but then people like Tim Kaine and Dan Lipinski got elected to Congress ) candidate than beat them with a progressive candidate.connor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:51 pmExactly. There's not even a "degraded" or Tony Blairized working class/labor party in the USA. The Democrats, while they used to be farther to the Left, never had the structural connections to trade unions that European Labor or SocDem parties have or had. There could never be a Corbyn-style takeover of the Democrats.
If Bernie started a new third party today, it would instantly become far more popular than either of the current two corporate teat-suckling parties who are really now just two factions of the same party. It would almost certainly do the Dems what the GOP's did to the Whigs 150+ years ago. Even so, we still need a minimum of 4 viable parties to really make sure everyone is at least somewhat represented. The more the Dems continue to give the finger to the actual left, the more numbered their days are.
It was not my intention to further drag this thread down a political path, so I'll just say that the Conners certainly represent those in the rust belt who turned to Trump purely out of desperation, given that they knew full well that Clinton would be a first-class ticket back to Status Quoville rather than presenting actual change. Of course, it was pretty obvious to me that Trump was clearly not going to be that change, but when you make people desperate, they don't often make the most clear-headed decisions.