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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2014
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:34 pm 
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Jody Hill and Danny McBride to collaborate on a new HBO series, Vice Principals, starring McBride for 18 episodes, presumably meaning three seasons of 6 episodes per.

I wonder what happened to Ben Best? There's been very little speculation as to why he basically fell off the face of the Earth after a couple brief appearances on Season 2 of Eastbound and Down, and doesn't appear to be collaborating with Hill and McBride any longer (or doing anything else, for that matter).


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2014
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:42 pm 
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It's not much, but from this article last year:

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Hill and McBride created Eastbound with Best (who appeared in the first two seasons as the charming weirdo Clegg, a spray-paint-huffing bartender/drug-dealer), but no longer work with him. When asked why, they provide a polite “No comment.”


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2014
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:54 pm 
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swo17 wrote:
It's not much, but from this article last year:

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Hill and McBride created Eastbound with Best (who appeared in the first two seasons as the charming weirdo Clegg, a spray-paint-huffing bartender/drug-dealer), but no longer work with him. When asked why, they provide a polite “No comment.”

Yeah, it's very strange that there's quite literally no information about what happened with Best - you'd think that even if there was just a falling out with Hill and McBride, he'd be getting work elsewhere. Hope everything's okay with him.


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2014
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:27 pm 
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mfunk9786 wrote:
Hope everything's okay with him.

I feel bad that I just assumed it was drug abuse.


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2016
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:36 pm 
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Vice Principals


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2016
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:25 am 
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Any one else check out Vice Principals? It is mostly more generic Jody Hill stuff with McBride just playing a slightly smarter version of his East Bound and Down character. Walter Goggins though absolutely steals the show underplaying the whole thing with this effete malice. It's a mild stretch from what he's been doing lately though the preview to the next episode and the end to this one suggests he's going to stick to something more familiar for the rest of the show.


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2016
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:45 pm 
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knives wrote:
Any one else check out Vice Principals? It is mostly more generic Jody Hill stuff with McBride just playing a slightly smarter version of his East Bound and Down character. Walter Goggins though absolutely steals the show underplaying the whole thing with this effete malice. It's a mild stretch from what he's been doing lately though the preview to the next episode and the end to this one suggests he's going to stick to something more familiar for the rest of the show.

Last night's episode was hysterical.


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 Post subject: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:09 pm 

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I just watched the first couple episodes of Vice Principals. Awful show. Walter Goggins deserves much better.


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 Post subject: Re: TV of 2016
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:56 am 
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ianungstad wrote:
I just watched the first couple episodes of Vice Principals. Awful show. Walter Goggins deserves much better.

I can't really imagine that there's anything on this forum I disagree with more than this. I think Vice Principals might be my favorite thing on TV right now - well, certainly right now, but in the last several years. Jody Hill and Danny McBride imbue the series with an almost Herzog-ian "ecstatic truth," showing us situations and characters that are heightened to the point of unmistakable satire, but are somehow made even more achingly real in the process. As was the case to a certain extent with Eastbound and Down (though I would say this is the more consistently great piece of work, where that had its ups and downs), the pair are unafraid to portray the ugliest side of human nature, and pull out the strangest facets of their characters to lay them bare for the sake of the viewer. It is not always easy to watch this show - LQ had her eyes covered yesterday during a particularly well staged bit of cringe dialogue - but what it has to say about the state of mean-spirited "Trump's America" is really quite a feat. Sure, you could take it all at face value, but it isn't difficult to see the spirit of McBride and Goggins' two lead characters in the comments of news articles or behind a particularly baffling Twitter account. The "good" characters don't get off entirely scot-free either, as the actors (particularly Kimberly Hebert Gregory) portraying them manage to find their warts with exacting precision. I can't recommend this damn show enough. I'm obsessed with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:12 pm 
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Without even trying to this show has become, for me at least, a perfect allegory for our current political climate. I've not seen one episode of Eastbound and Down but I knew I'd be on this right away when it was first announced. Because of Goggins, but more because I'm a fan of high school satire.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:15 pm 
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And thankfully, that's just an undercurrent - but it's such a rarity to see a red state realistically (even if it's exaggerated realism) portrayed on screen without the creator either finger-wagging or apologizing for the characters therein. That this sort of concentrated ugliness manages to also be uproariously funny (really, McBride and Goggins might be the most effortlessly funny people alive, and they're both on this show) is a heck of a feat.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:08 pm 
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mfunk9786 wrote:
And thankfully, that's just an undercurrent - but it's such a rarity to see a red state realistically (even if it's exaggerated realism) portrayed on screen without the creator either finger-wagging or apologizing for the characters therein. That this sort of concentrated ugliness manages to also be uproariously funny (really, McBride and Goggins might be the most effortlessly funny people alive, and they're both on this show) is a heck of a feat.

I also agree that the political connections are a happy coincidence--especially given that Veep airs on the same network. Like the other Hill/McBride stories, this concerns a more general grunt-n-grab approach to power and masculinity that, though also absolutely applicable to contemporary politics, deserves a more nuanced reading.

A few of my friends can't stand this show, and it's been fascinating to talk about why they find it so unappealing. Listening to them articulate their thoughts regarding the aptly-termed "concentrated ugliness" and relate them to their thoughts about comedy in a broader sense makes for really interesting conversation. The comedy (and the sadness and anxiety it's laced with) works for me, but I also like that it's striking some particular nerves.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:13 pm 
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The end of last night's episode was legitimately moving. Seeing the cracks in Gamby's armor is kind of beautiful.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:21 pm 
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I finally caught up on this and it's easily the funniest show on tv. I love the chemistry between McBride and Coggins, they act like they've been doing this for years. Just everything Coggins says is funny; and McBride is better here, his character is deeper than anything else he's played.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:49 pm 
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Just so you know whilst moving through this life: It's Goggins.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:22 pm 
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Coggins is better


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:57 am 
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Whoops.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:30 am 
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The way the first season ended tonight was pretty astonishing and one gets the impression that Hill and McBride relish the placement of the cut to the credits each and every time out, but especially this time. I'm always foolish to think that this show couldn't possibly get more dark, it always manages to outdo itself.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
Does anyone NOT think that Russell is behind the shooting?


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:01 am 
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[Reveal] Spoiler:
Russell passing the blame onto Gamby about their misdeeds in that congratulatory way at the flagpole certainly lends itself to that. Hopefully the show keeps who it was in the dark, turning the 2nd season into a whodunit will up the ante considerably.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:16 pm 
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This is brilliant


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:44 pm 
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This show certainly exceeded my expectations and seemed to be an increasingly rare instance of a show improving as the season passed. The main cast all deserve praise for their performances, with McBride really surprising me with a slight variation of his usual shtick, but my favorite performance was actually Shea Whigham's amazingly reserved and calm work as Ray.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:09 pm 
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mfunk9786 wrote:
The way the first season ended tonight was pretty astonishing and one gets the impression that Hill and McBride relish the placement of the cut to the credits each and every time out, but especially this time. I'm always foolish to think that this show couldn't possibly get more dark, it always manages to outdo itself.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
Does anyone NOT think that Russell is behind the shooting?
[Reveal] Spoiler:
The obvious candidates are Russell or someone connected to Belinda, but what about Shea Wigham's Ray, who earlier that same episode expressed jealousy at Neil's relationship with his daughter, and may have seen Niel's gift of the motocross bike as an intrusion into the "little slice" of her he had to himself? It's a stretch, and the second season would have to lay some groundwork to justify it, but Ray's general demeanor throughout the series and Neil's late overtures to him would serve as a hell of a misdirect.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:28 am 
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[Reveal] Spoiler:
I think Ray was genuinely touched by the gesture: Gamby didn't get that bike for his daughter out of some kind of oneupsmanship, but as a way of showing Ray that he heard him when he was talking about wanting to establish a stronger relationship with her.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:46 pm 
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I loved the final episode. The train tracks scene had the weight of the entire season on it and they pulled it off masterfully. The ending came out of nowhere and worked.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
As for possible guesses, Russell seems obvious. But my 2nd choice is Ms. Abbott.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice Principals
PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:00 pm 
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Revenge is in session


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