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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:42 pm 
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domino harvey wrote:

I did take a brief look at it and the list of Non dead status updates struck me as very Ballardian:
"Allegedly Alive"; "FAKED: Car crash"; "Not dead"; "Accidental Head Injury, whilst on Valium"; "Rumor". And of course "Still kickin, tho living in Indiana"

Though it does get much darker with the AIDS section.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:18 pm 
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Based on what I've read, HIV/AIDS is the only thing regularly tested in the industry, and that if you've worked in porn long enough you accept you'll catch something at some point.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:21 pm 
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Ames’ death has been confirmed as suicide by hanging.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:01 pm 
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I didn't know who she was but a cursory search on Twitter yielded hundreds of people making variations of the same two jokes: either they know who she is but their girlfriend doesn't, or they're going to knowingly masturbate to a dead woman as "tribute". So, another reason to just never look at social media, I guess


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:04 pm 
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The level of dehumanizing that people do re: people who entertain them in some cases more often than Academy Award winning actors is really nauseating, I agree. Not sure why these people are treated like such garbage to this day, even as their industry is more and more normalized


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:39 am 
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Haven't read any of the comments in question and won't, but from what Dom wrote, the "tribute" seems like a variation of the "I can tell by the way that stripper smiled that she's super into me" delusion more than anything. As with anything else, a disturbing number of people really have a hard time distinguishing the fantasy from reality. Dehumanization, sure, of course ... but that ain't the half of it. We should all be thankful that porn gives these people at least some kind of outlet.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:59 am 
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Australian actor and director Samantha Rebillet, on 27 November, aged forty-five.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:11 am 
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Brian C wrote:
Haven't read any of the comments in question and won't, but from what Dom wrote, the "tribute" seems like a variation of the "I can tell by the way that stripper smiled that she's super into me" delusion more than anything. As with anything else, a disturbing number of people really have a hard time distinguishing the fantasy from reality. Dehumanization, sure, of course ... but that ain't the half of it. We should all be thankful that porn gives these people at least some kind of outlet.

If only more people used pornography in the humanizing way.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:11 am 
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 Post subject: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:50 am 
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William H. Gass, at 93.

I'm coincidentally in the midst of his mammoth The Tunnel, which I've been reading on-and-off for the past four months. I'd just begun reading it again on Wednesday, which I only learned today is the day of his death.

NYRB classics have recently reissued both his astonishing first story collection, In the Heart of the Heart of the Country, and his short philosophical treatise, On Being Blue, both excellent places to start if you've never read this bleak but delicious stylist. Until his death, there was no other living writer I could think of who played such meticulous attention to their sentences and how they sounded. Though he lived to an enviable age and was publishing until the end (his last book coming out two years ago), it's still sad we'll get nothing more from him.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:04 pm 
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The great jazz drummer Sunny Murray, a giant of free jazz.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:44 pm 
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domino harvey wrote:

Spalding Gray was in a porno?


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:12 pm 
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More than one. I remember watching Radley Metzger’s Maraschino Cherry and thinking that there was someone in it that looked startlingly like him - so I looked up the cast list, and...

...well, I was right.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:18 pm 
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There are clips of Grey talking about his porno days in And Everything Is Going Fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:22 pm 
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There are clips of Grey talking about his porno days in And Everything Is Going Fine.

His experience also featured heavily in his novel "Impossible Vacation".


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:20 pm 
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Steve Reevis

A Montanan and a member of Blackfeet Nation. Seen in things like Fargo and Dances with Wolves. I can't really describe these places to people who haven't been there but to describe it as abject poverty is about as much I can get without getting angry about the conditions these people have to put up with. Him dying at age fifty five has some unfortunate implications but I don't know if it'd be appropriate to share it or not. Horrible.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:31 am 
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He's most recognizable for the Fargo part but he has a memorably droll performance in his Bones episode, The Man In The Bear.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:46 am 
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More than one. I remember watching Radley Metzger’s Maraschino Cherry and thinking that there was someone in it that looked startlingly like him - so I looked up the cast list, and...

...well, I was right.

And Synapse Films released the other film Spalding Gray was in a couple of years ago: The Farmer's Daughters. There's one of the few SFW clips of the film here.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:32 am 
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An English lang obit for Sunny Murray, with a link to an interview, A French doc on his career, and containing some embedded clips.
Not the easiest task to play drums for Cecil Tyalor and Albert Ayler in the '60's.
I'm not familiar with his recordings as a leader, so if anyone has any recs for that, it'd be appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:40 pm 
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hearthesilence wrote:

An English lang obit for Sunny Murray, with a link to an interview, A French doc on his career, and containing some embedded clips.
Not the easiest task to play drums for Cecil Tyalor and Albert Ayler in the '60's.
I'm not familiar with his recordings as a leader, so if anyone has any recs for that, it'd be appreciated.

An Even Break (Never Give A Sucker) is probably the best one to get. It's out-of-print, but it's not hard to find inexpensive used copies, especially the CD that was paired with Sunshine (which isn't on par with An Even Break but certainly worth hearing).


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:04 am 
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Juan Luis Buñuel, son and filmmaker.
Paris, 6 december, 83 years. I remember some images of Catherine Deneuve in Madrid in La Femme aux bottes rouges but I've never seen a film made by him.
Leonor, is it good? Liv Ullman, Ornella Muti in Middle Age ?

The whole film The Lady with Red Boots English dubbed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk3ob3XDc_M
Fernando Rey dubbed himself.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:36 am 
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Another Spain-related death announced today.
Aline Griffith, OSS- CIA spy, author, Countess of Romanones, jet set member, 94 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aline_Gri ... _Romanones


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:57 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:51 pm 
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Smithereens lead singer Pat DiNizio


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