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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:29 pm 
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I assumed everyone on the board, or at least Lewis fans, knew it existed. However I just learned of the 10yr wait a few days ago.

If memory serves, Shearer gave a great interview on Howard Stern where goes into depth about the movie.

Jerry's Jazz Singer is said to have some resemblance to The Day the Clown Died, as he plays it straight.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:39 pm 
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It’s called The Day the Clown Cried, not The Day the Clown Died, that is the only reason I said it didn’t exist. Was just a joke on my part, aka The Day the Clown Tried


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:52 pm 
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domino harvey wrote:
Shearer seems dubious of Lewis' talents apart from the film, so it doesn't mean much

That may be true, but the whole interview is certainly entertaining


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:01 am 
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*thanks for the correction

As I said, great interview...if only Jerry had visited the show...

I feel like this board would know, but I can't think of a non documentary film that depicted actual concentration camps before 1972.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:15 am 
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Pontecorvo's Kapo immediately comes to mind.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:29 am 

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The Pawnbroker. Naked Among Wolves.


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The Last Stage (Ostatni etap) (1948)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:33 pm 
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Forgot about this, but I remember cracking up at this anecdote published in the Chicago Sun-Times the morning after Lewis got the Jean Hersholt Award:

Given his poor health, Jerry Lewis “needs to be forgiven,” said a Hollywood matron, practically knocked on her kiester by the impatient comedy legend as he angrily stormed around the Governors Ball. “Come on!” he barked at several people he thought were blocking his way through the ballroom. “Get out of my way!”

“But then,” said the woman, staring at the drink Lewis’ jolt had caused her to spill down the front of her gown, “You’d think the guy who won the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award would be a little more polite.”


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:40 pm 
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TCM Remembers -- Jerry Lewis (1926-2017)

TCM has, rather appropriately, scheduled five of Jerry's films for Labor Day night and early the next morning.

8:00 PM ET
THE NUTTY PROFESSOR (1963)

10:00 PM ET
THE KING OF COMEDY (1983)

12:00 AM ET
THE STOOGE (1952)

2:00 AM ET
THE BELLBOY (1960)

3:30 AM ET
THE DISORDERLY ORDERLY (1964)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:45 pm 
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Boy, not the five I would have scheduled...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:09 pm 
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Was going to share my top 5 picks but I'll save it for a Jerry Lewis list project. [-o<


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:07 am 
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I guess it captures his career better than simply broadcasting the string of his triumphs as auteur with The Ladies Man thru to The Family Jewels. You've got his most famous film, his most celebrated dramatic performance, an mid-Martin & Lewis feature, his breakout as director, and a Tashlin. Disorderly Orderly is at the bottom of the pack in my estimation as far as the Tashlin features go (maybe It's Only Money is less interesting), but it's a fine film with some good gags. Obviously Artists & Models or Hollywood or Bust would have been preferred as the M&L feature. But overall I think it's a fair marathon.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:53 am 
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I suppose it's a pretty fair representation when you break it down that way, but then again five feels pretty skimpy, especially when three will be played in the early morning hours. They could've added on two or three better films. The Ladies Man is a serious omission to me.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:07 pm 
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HJackson wrote:
I guess it captures his career better than simply broadcasting the string of his triumphs as auteur with The Ladies Man thru to The Family Jewels. You've got his most famous film, his most celebrated dramatic performance, an mid-Martin & Lewis feature, his breakout as director, and a Tashlin. Disorderly Orderly is at the bottom of the pack in my estimation as far as the Tashlin features go (maybe It's Only Money is less interesting), but it's a fine film with some good gags. Obviously Artists & Models or Hollywood or Bust would have been preferred as the M&L feature. But overall I think it's a fair marathon.


Thank you for pointing this out. It's Only Money is the only one I've seen...and I haven't pursued another. Are the films Olive released not the place to start with Lewis? I figured a Tashlin may be a good bet.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:23 pm 
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I like Money but otherwise I'd only really recommend the '50s films.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:12 am 
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Drucker wrote:
Thank you for pointing this out. It's Only Money is the only one I've seen...and I haven't pursued another. Are the films Olive released not the place to start with Lewis? I figured a Tashlin may be a good bet.

Like swo I do enjoy It's Only Money, and I like the Tashlin films in general a great deal (especially Cinderfella and Geisha Boy - the latter of which is available on blu from Olive), but I think The Ladies Man or The Nutty Professor is a better place to go to see what Lewis could achieve. Lewis as a director was more ambitious than Tashlin ever seemed to be and I think if you give Ladies Man a shot you'll at least appreciate that Jerry had some measure of creative genius, even if you find the end result irritating. The closest Tashlin comes is Cinderfella, where he has some fun with the family estate and stages a pretty great ball (which famously caused Jerry's first heart attack), but even there Jerry was producing and I think he's generally credited with a high degree of authorship on that one.

He's not to everyone's taste as a screen comedian though, and you might get more out of the Martin & Lewis films (eg Artists & Models) which have a different dynamic.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:16 am 
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I like it as well. The Geisha Boy might be a good point to start with the Olive releases, but the Dean Martin stuff might be the absolute best place to start.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:35 am 
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A few may be hard to get a hold of now, but just to future-proof this discussion: the best Tashlins for me are Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?, Susan Slept Here, the Girl Can't Help It, and the Man From the Diner's Club. For Lewis-starring vehicles, Hollywood or Bust, Artists and Models, Cinderfella, and the Geisha Boy. While I wish it was still easy to obtain, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? is a showcase of pretty much everything Tashlin does best in one movie


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:50 pm 
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domino harvey wrote:
It's interesting that I'd blocked out Hulot having any romantic dalliances at all in these films! I've been thinking in the wake of Jerry Lewis' passing about how some physical comedians are able to pull off credible romantic endeavors in their films, and others aren't. For me, Lewis and Chaplin's personas and approach are too juvenile to ever feel comfortable with their romantic pursuits-- it's always like watching that scene from Blank Check where the kid kisses Karen Duffy! Of course, I don't mean "juvenile" as an insult to their talents or their films, and indeed the Gold Rush makes great use of this aspect of Chaplin's Little Tramp. But Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd's personas/filmic approaches are fully encompassing of making them credible romantic leads, and indeed much of their humor derives from their laborious attempts to woo or maintain plausible romantic relationships. As for Tati, well, he's so sexless to my mind that he's somewhere apart from either extreme, but I think it may be telling that I had erased these portions from my memory
Man, no joke. I've been going through the first Martin and Lewis set and it is really amazing how infantilized he is across these. Sailor Beware is probably the most extreme of these with Lewis as barely human and if he were one he's a 9 year old. Even the logic of his love interest is from a child. He essentially gets with her only because she doesn't smell bad. It's quite shocking at times particularly with the more dramatic The Stooge. It's also compelling how quickly they decided to play with their imagines with this idea of Lewis as a literal sexless child getting a lot of play in particular. It's almost as if no one knows what to do with him. Jumping Jacks is probably the most direct line of attack with a human Lewis character stuck in a largely real world (or at least not a living cartoon the way even in these early films he becomes).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:11 pm 
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domino harvey wrote:
While I wish it was still easy to obtain, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? is a showcase of pretty much everything Tashlin does best in one movie

You can still get this box set pretty cheaply- and while it loses a lot of visual quality compared to the MoC blu-ray, it gains in excellent commentaries on both that and The Girl Can't Help It.


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