Film Criticism

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#851 Post by Ovader » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:09 pm

I was reading this 2015 article Recent Spanish Cinema and interested in these renegade micro-productions that kicked off a ‘new Spanish cinema’ revival such as Juan Cavestany's Gente en sitios (2013), Jonás Trueba’s Los Ilusos (2013) or Fernando Franco’s La Herida (2013). Curious if others have seen these films and can comment on their qualifications for this new revival?

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#852 Post by MongooseCmr » Fri May 12, 2017 3:17 pm

Fandor's Keyframe news site being shut down. This is a real tragedy, the amount of material David Hudson compiled for near daily updates was incredible, in my mind the most essential resource for film writing and news around. It had been apparent for a year now that things were changing once Kevin B. Lee was sacked and clickbait videos replaced his essays, but this seems so unnecessary. And on the eve of Cannes too

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#853 Post by goblinfootballs » Fri May 12, 2017 10:39 pm

MongooseCmr wrote:Fandor's Keyframe news site being shut down. This is a real tragedy, the amount of material David Hudson compiled for near daily updates was incredible, in my mind the most essential resource for film writing and news around. It had been apparent for a year now that things were changing once Kevin B. Lee was sacked and clickbait videos replaced his essays, but this seems so unnecessary. And on the eve of Cannes too
On the other hand, someone got to fulfill their dream of posting a video essay on Guy Ritche, so...

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#854 Post by colinr0380 » Sat May 13, 2017 3:30 am

goblinfootballs wrote:On the other hand, someone got to fulfill their dream of posting a video essay on Guy Ritche, so...
Though they'll never be able to match tortoise Mark Cousins!

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#855 Post by furbicide » Sat May 13, 2017 6:04 am

MongooseCmr wrote:Fandor's Keyframe news site being shut down. This is a real tragedy, the amount of material David Hudson compiled for near daily updates was incredible, in my mind the most essential resource for film writing and news around. It had been apparent for a year now that things were changing once Kevin B. Lee was sacked and clickbait videos replaced his essays, but this seems so unnecessary. And on the eve of Cannes too
I've always found Hudson's Cannes coverage indispensable. Good luck to them, I guess; I don't really care what happens to the site now. I certainly won't be visiting any more.

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#856 Post by Black Hat » Sat May 13, 2017 7:22 pm

Wow I found Keyframe to be an invaluable resource, very disappointing to see it killed off.

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#857 Post by goblinfootballs » Wed May 17, 2017 8:56 am

David Hudson is on the Criterion Current now!

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#858 Post by Perkins Cobb » Mon May 22, 2017 9:57 pm

Another critic (and filmmaker, and contributor to MOC extras) gets Faraci'd following an inept attempt to drum up a boycott against a publication that hated his movie. It took Twitter about 30 seconds to out him, although I'll refrain from doing so here, as the mob-justice thing makes me queasy even when the targets seem to be deserving.

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#859 Post by domino harvey » Mon May 22, 2017 11:24 pm

His Antonioni extras were completely worthless, didn't know it was that guy without Googling him

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#860 Post by matrixschmatrix » Tue May 23, 2017 12:21 am

Ugh, his easygoing language and casual usage of feminist touchstones makes his hypocrisy that much uglier. Having tracked down the film, the technical gimmick DOES sound neat- and I was prepared to be slightly annoyed at the review, which begins essentially by calling attachment to celluloid outmoded- but the movie sounds simultaneously reprehensible and self pitying, and the review seems pretty incisive in describing it. I looked up Variety's, for comparison's sake, and the Seventh Row reviewer is absolutely correct- it spends a lot of time talking about the gimmick, a reasonable amount of time (understandably) praising Yelchin and mourning his loss (one wonders if Jarmusch produced the film as a favor to Yelchin, or if Yelchin got connected through Jarmusch), and no time at all addressing the actual romantic conflict at the heart of the movie.

Obviously, the further actions of the director here are indefensible, but the original review this is referring back to seems itself like a pretty decent piece of criticism, and one that addresses a rotten heart that in something like Passengers didn't get discussed until a fair amount of time after the movie had gotten wide release.

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#861 Post by aewb » Tue May 23, 2017 8:21 am

His Linklater/Benning film was ok but Porto is very bad. I'm sure he sees himself as a sophisticated American with a European sensibility like Eugene Green but the film is borderline sexist sub-Guerin trash.
domino harvey wrote:His Antonioni extras were completely worthless, didn't know it was that guy without Googling him
Probably the worst extras ever produced not involving :: kogonada or Drew Casper.

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#862 Post by hearthesilence » Tue May 23, 2017 12:20 pm

Sweet Jesus, that link was hard to get through. I actually don't know Klinger's work - I'm certain I've read his reviews and seen his DVD extras, but not enough of them so that I can remember his name as the author of those pieces.

In his defense, his first email was fine. Some of it I wouldn't have written: offering the Blu-Ray was a bit weird, as was the ticket refund (partly because press is usually comped and also if it was a mainstream news source, a gift outside of access to what's being reviewed could be construed as unethical to accept, even if it is a token offering). He shouldn't have said it was okay NOT to respond either. He should've stayed the course of his previous paragraphs and asked to engage. (The "revenge" part may sound weird, but I don't know what his history is with the critic. This isn't unusual these days - it's not supposed to happen but plenty of people in the press do have private adversarial relationships with public figures and it's not always known AND it is indeed a problem when there's a published story by one on the other.) But overall, if someone publishes a serious charge at a filmmaker's work, and the filmmaker truly believed it to be unfair or inaccurate, there should be some public dialogue on that point. He should have gotten that.

But then he royally screwed up with that other email - seriously what was he thinking? I'm guessing his emotions got the better of his senses, but that's no excuse, and as someone who has worked (and still worked) as a critic, the offense is even more egregious. He should have known better, much more than anyone else.

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#863 Post by matrixschmatrix » Tue May 23, 2017 5:14 pm

To me, the first email has much the same undercurrent, of a manipulator who is determined to get their way one way or another, and is putting on the face they think most likely to work for a given context.

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#864 Post by domino harvey » Tue May 23, 2017 6:46 pm

Y'all are being more than a little overly nefarious here. Spoiled artist can't handle criticism is hardly news or necessarily sexism on its face, though his follow-through exhibited these traits

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#865 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed May 24, 2017 1:40 am

I agree with Domino. I feel it's less about sexism than it is about a thin-skinned filmmaker who can't take criticism and handled it sloppily. Even if there are elements of crypto-misogny in his second e-mail, obviously he's been told he's a great artist and can't handle it when someone cuts into his work. To reuse a classic phrase, this guy needs to grow a pair.

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#866 Post by Lost Highway » Sat May 27, 2017 2:50 pm

Dr. Svet's review of the Criterion release of Dheepan is something to behold. Instead of reviewing the film, he mostly regales us with his eccentric views on the European Union, which apparently is not much different from the Soviet Union at its height. Apparently its open door policies have ruined the EU. He doesn't seem to be aware that most of the French immigrants are there due to France's colonial past rather than any "open door policy" which only briefly was the case for Germany which opened its borders for political asylum seekers. And of course the mainstream media are withholding the truth of the EU from us. Obviously emboldened by the current US president, he free to sprinkle his reviews with Trumpisms.

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#867 Post by MichaelB » Sat May 27, 2017 3:24 pm

Maybe he thinks his days at Blu-ray.com are numbered and he's angling for a column in a right-wing British tabloid?

Although I fear that he's onto a loser there, what with him being Bulgarian immigrant scum in their eyes.

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#868 Post by domino harvey » Sat May 27, 2017 3:26 pm

Maybe he wants to be "one of the good ones"

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#869 Post by MichaelB » Sat May 27, 2017 3:59 pm

The likes of the Daily Express would sooner admit that Princess Diana died in a straightforward car accident than concede that there's such a thing as a good Bulgarian immigrant.

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#870 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sat May 27, 2017 5:13 pm

I would say that this reflects lessening editorial oversite there, but there's an unwarranted assumption buoy into that suggestion

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#871 Post by Perkins Cobb » Tue May 30, 2017 4:03 pm

I mean, even DVDTalk finally told Paul Mavis to can it with the right-wing bloviating (and of course he responded by flouncing off to some other site that should've known better).

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#872 Post by ermylaw » Tue May 30, 2017 4:14 pm

Is left-wing film criticism allowed? Is it just right-wing criticism that's off limits?

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#873 Post by knives » Tue May 30, 2017 4:22 pm

The issue is less the politics intrinsically so much as most people visit these sites to know if the DVD is any good so it is more about tech criticism than film. I don't go to Bluray.com to see if a movie is good.

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#874 Post by MichaelB » Tue May 30, 2017 4:27 pm

And another issue is that the blu-ray.com forum moderators crack down on anything deemed too political.

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#875 Post by ermylaw » Tue May 30, 2017 4:35 pm

Fair enough. Even though I agree to a certain extent with the political message of the review, I was quite surprised to find it on blu-ray.com, so I understand what you're both saying. (I also didn't read Dheepan the same way as the reviewer.)

The people posting above are specifically calling out "right wing bloviating," as if left-wing bloviating would be just fine -- that is a double standard. I can respect the thought that blu-ray.com seems to be otherwise apolitical, and so this is inconsistent. I wonder, though, if this were an overtly left-wing review your responses would be the same.

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