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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:51 pm 
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Well. Thank you, but I don't see nothing about summer and a beach day.
I suppose that Fire Island is a better option. Or other even closer and less gay.
I'd like to go to that gay Gomorrah beach.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:03 am 
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That looks great. I like the Sirk-ian lighting in some of those interior scenes.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:22 pm 
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Early reactions are pouring in ahead of the proper premiere tonight, and they're mixed trending on negative, aside from the as-expected raves for Winslet and Storaro. Things can change once actual reviews start coming and the news cycle this week has been especially terrible to end with a big gala premiere of a new Woody Allen film, and it seems to have some fans, but thus far it doesn't really seem like it'll be on the same level of success with the general critical audience as Midnight in Paris or Blue Jasmine was.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:58 am 
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The Woody Allen Pages gives a good overview of the critical response Wonder Wheel received today. Overall, the critics didn't really cotton to it, but one can say that about most new Woody Allen films. As Ribs wrote above, both Kate Winslet and Vittorio Storaro have received some incredibly high praise for their work, and it seems both may be poised for an Oscar nomination (if Storaro gets an Oscar nomination for this, it will be his first since Dick Tracy).

I think this film looks amazing from the trailer, and I can't wait to see it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:50 pm 
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A lengthy video of the NYFF Vittorio Storaro and Ed Lachman master class is online, and while fans of both cinematographers will find it to be of supreme interest, Storaro and his work on Wonder Wheel takes up the majority of the talk (mostly because Storaro is such an emotional, philosophical, and poetic speaker that his answers are naturally longer, while Lachman is comparatively direct and to the point). I especially love how Storaro describes the home of Kate Winslet's character Ginny, which is located in the dead center of Coney Island, with carnival rides visible from every window in the house. I can't wait to see how this location functions in the film. This detail - along with the trailer - speaks to some of the buzz (possibly hyperbole) that Wonder Wheel is the most visually ambitious film of Woody Allen's career.

Also, I didn't know that Lachman was Storaro's assistant on Bertolucci's Luna.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:52 am 

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Phew! I was really worried this wouldn't hit home media, but there's already a pre-order link for BD/DVD/Digital combo and a DVD. Apparently, Universal is handling the home media distribution.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:56 pm 
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Wonder Wheel is currently 34% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, making it the worst-reviewed feature film of Woody Allen's career. Keeping in mind Amazon's scant "blink and you'll miss" distribution of Wonderstruck - a rather positively reviewed film that isn't attached to controversy - I wouldn't be surprised if Wonder Wheel plays in as few theaters as possible, for as little time as possible, before being pulled from release and dumped to VOD.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:58 pm 
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The trailers are visually stunning, which is probably going to get me to the theater - but yeah, writing's on the wall here, it sounds like it's a real misfire.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:04 pm 
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Dylan wrote:
Wonder Wheel is currently 34% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, making it the worst-reviewed feature film of Woody Allen's career. Keeping in mind Amazon's scant "blink and you'll miss" distribution of Wonderstruck - a rather positively reviewed film that isn't attached to controversy - I wouldn't be surprised if Wonder Wheel plays in as few theaters as possible, for as little time as possible, before being pulled from release and dumped to VOD.


It’s being released wide next week. No one saw Wonderstruck because no one cares about Todd Haynes. This will underperform relative to Cafe Society but will still easily get into profit.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:13 pm 
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Ribs wrote:
No one saw Wonderstruck because no one cares about Todd Haynes.

Absurd. I know multiple people who wanted to take their kids to this but just couldn't find a theater showing it in their area. This is ludicrous.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:19 pm 
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I love Todd Haynes. I think he’s probably the most intelligent, critically informed director working today. He is not a commercial force like Woody Allen, who famously makes movies that make more money year after year than pretty much anyone in the business.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:28 pm 
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Wonder Wheel: Who’s Afraid of Red, Green and Blue?, an article written by Vittorio Storaro for American Cinematographer.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:59 pm 
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The most charitable way I can describe the film is as strange without any charm. Nothing really fits, Kate Winslet's a pretty horrendous human being but she's also representing the struggle of the aging woman? You don't have any sense of anything about this woman. Her lack of complexity made me feel uncomfortable watching this character's story. Timberlake is way too old for the part and acts every scene like he's playing Woody Allen in an SNL sketch. You kinda expect him to break out in song and dance at any moment too. Belushi plays his role as an overweight Popeye so much so that Allen might as well have named him that instead of the preposterous name he does have which I won't spoil. The much hyped cinematography to be kind seems to be operating in a different universe. To be less kind comes off as bad middle school theater lighting. Juno Temple is far and away the only redeeming part of this film, but is barely given anything to do. You can't even say the reaction to Wonder Wheel is backlash given recent events and Allen's late career resurgence because the film is that dated and at times feels so incongruent to itself it creeps up on the edge of senility.

Ribs is right about Haynes by the way, great filmmaker, probably from a to z the best one we have, but he is not putting fannies in the seats.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:39 am 
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There is a small handful of directors whose name has brand recognition and who are box office draws. On the whole people go to see a film because they like the subject matter and they heard good things about it. If Wonderstruck flopped than its less because people don’t care about Haynes and more because the premise was difficult to get across via the publicity, it got so-so reviews and because Amazon is primarily a streaming service and doesn’t take enough care with its theatrical runs.


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