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Re: Comic Books on Film

#1 Post by domino harvey » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:25 pm

I haven't seen any of the Marvel redux films but I liked the idea of Paul Rudd and Michael Douglas in an action movie so I watched Ant-Man, or perhaps a better title would be Demo Reel For a Video Game I Don't Want to Play. I just could not believe how much of this movie was virtually animated, in a style bearing no resemblance to the world we live in, and in an inexcusably unimaginative fashion. Rudd and Douglas and Michael Pena get a few spare laughs, and there's one legit funny running joke near the beginning involving an ice cream parlor's reputation that has all the hallmarks of coming from Edgar Wright's original script, little else of which I suspect actually made it to the screen. But overall, man, between this and the horrible Jurassic World (what an awful idea for a double feature tonight), my tolerance for feature-length screensavers is as low as it's ever been.

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#2 Post by domino harvey » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:05 pm

Deadpool broke all sorts of records this weekend and did a reverse-Snakes on a Plane by translating internet interest into actual attendance

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#3 Post by Feiereisel » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:19 pm

domino harvey wrote:Deadpool broke all sorts of records this weekend and did a reverse-Snakes on a Plane by translating internet interest into actual attendance
Pity that the movie is about as clever as a kid who's just learned how to swear--which, based on the audience at my screening, seems to be the film's target demographic. It's ten laughs (most of which where in the red-band trailer) sprinkled over two hours of tepid meta-cinema.

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#4 Post by Luke M » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:42 am

Feiereisel wrote:
domino harvey wrote:Deadpool broke all sorts of records this weekend and did a reverse-Snakes on a Plane by translating internet interest into actual attendance
Pity that the movie is about as clever as a kid who's just learned how to swear--which, based on the audience at my screening, seems to be the film's target demographic. It's ten laughs (most of which where in the red-band trailer) sprinkled over two hours of tepid meta-cinema.
This has been the target demographic of *every* superhero comic book film.

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I probably didn't laugh as much as the filmmakers hoped but I was smiling throughout most of the running time. It's the most fun I've had watching a superhero flick since the first Iron Man.

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#5 Post by beamish13 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:14 pm

Great article from Cartoon Brew about Deadpool's director, Tim Miller, who joins the ranks of Frank Tashlin, Tim Burton, Terry Gilliam and Walerian Borowczyk as an animator who transitioned to live-action filmmaking.

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#6 Post by Trees » Fri May 06, 2016 3:31 am

Saw Captain America: Civil War. It's one of the better Marvel installments, if you go for this kind of popcorn entertainment. The action sequences were extremely well executed.... probably the best action scenes in this type of film. Spiderman was a lot of fun.

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#7 Post by Luke M » Sat May 07, 2016 10:02 am

Agreed. Civil War is a lot of fun and definitely top tier MCU. Nothing about the characters motivations feels forced, the storyline flows organically, and the action sequences are incredibly well staged.

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#8 Post by cdnchris » Sat May 07, 2016 3:59 pm

Good to hear so far. Like others I'm getting tired of the superhero genre (long ago) but really like the Captain America films. Was weary of this one because it's slamming in all these other characters and I was fearing this would be just another Avengers type deal.

I really liked the elevator fight scene in the last one. Anything like that in this one?

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#9 Post by captveg » Sat May 07, 2016 5:10 pm

The weight of this project would have crumbled in the hands of most filmmakers, but the Russo brothers impress with their nimble navigation of a dozen superheroes and their various motives and personalities. The action is delivered fast and furious when needed, and the emotional hook of the Captain America / Iron Man conflict is smartly dashed in just a little bit at a time until the ending. I'm not sure if it hits the highest highs of the middle act of The Avengers, and I feel the deeper cuts of Tony and Steve's characters in Iron Man 3 and The Winter Soldier are a bit more to my tastes; but for across the board, consistent greatness the film delivers. 9/10

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#10 Post by Werewolf by Night » Sat May 07, 2016 10:55 pm

cdnchris wrote:I really liked the elevator fight scene in the last one. Anything like that in this one?
There's a similar fight in a stairwell that's pretty good.

Not similar, but absolutely great, is the all-hero brawl that's teased in the trailers.

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#11 Post by Mr Sausage » Sun May 08, 2016 7:47 pm

Saw Ant-Man. It was fine. Humour and action mostly worked; characters and story did not. Spent some time wondering what bits of Edgar Wright were in there (cell phone bit?). But mostly I realized this film is essentially an old-fashioned martial arts movie. Old master finds down-and-out younger man, trains him throughout the second act, then unleashes him on an old enemy in the final act.

I like that it was also the sequel to a movie that doesn't exist, which is something that can be done a lot more with an extended universe like this. I had a lot more to say when I was thinking of writing this post, but now that I am, indifference has let me forget most of it. Rewatched Iron Man, tho', and it is still a lot of fun and one of the most enjoyable comic book movies.

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#12 Post by Luke M » Tue May 24, 2016 7:25 pm

So, it looks like the new X-Men is a spectacular misfire. I know people like to criticize Disney's Marvel flicks but clearly they've figured out the formula to making superhero films work.

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#13 Post by knives » Tue May 24, 2016 7:56 pm

Or at least the formula to be middling enough to get the sort of lukewarm reviews that when collected as data looks good.

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#14 Post by Trees » Tue May 24, 2016 8:12 pm

I think I stopped watching the X-Men films right after X-Men 3. I watched about 30 minutes of Ant-Man on a flight, but eventually turned it off. Michael Douglas' performance was pretty bad (and I'm a huge fan of Douglas). I did see Deadpool, and thought it was entertaining. Not sure if I can really bring myself to watch any of these new X-Men films. I think, like much of the world, I am starting to suffer from superhero fatigue. I think we may end up looking back on Superman vs Batman as the film that really started the superhero backlash/fatigue. There is some discussion that S v B's poor performance may have dragged down Captain America: Civil War's box office numbers a bit. I think there might be something to that.

Is anyone else here a fan of Snyder's Watchmen? That's a film that for me has a high re-watch-ability factor. I love all the Dr. Manhattan sequences.

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#15 Post by Luke M » Tue May 24, 2016 11:26 pm

I'm not sure we've reached superhero fatigue just yet. I thought two other ridiculous Spider-Man films would've killed the genre, thought Man of Steel was end of it, but we still keep getting movies and some of them, like Civil War, are hits. I'm not a huge fan of the genre, I did like Civil War and thought Deadpool was a lot of fun but Ant-Man was mostly terrible and I didn't bother to see Batman vs. Superman. I'll probably be passing on the new X-Men flick as well. The X-Men series has always been somewhat of a letdown. They've never had a great film or even much of a pretty good one.

I'm not a big Watchman fan. I think the film (and Zack Snyder's career for that matter) peaks during the opening credits sequence.

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#16 Post by Trees » Tue May 24, 2016 11:38 pm

I'm not saying we are in the midst of a full-fledged superhero fatigue syndrome. I just feel like we are likely experiencing the first verberations of it. Keep in mind, we still have huge, huge Marvel pictures coming like Infinity War that will likely blow away even Force Awakens box office numbers. I agree: this train ain't stopping just yet.

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#17 Post by captveg » Wed May 25, 2016 12:34 am

I'd say film critics are more fatigued than general audiences, if overall box office is any indication. I think it'll be tough for these films to reach the peak of $1.5b since the zeitgeist won't be as common due to simply having more comic book based films in the market (seven coming out this year), but across the board they are all doing quite well. We've had three already make $750m+ WW at the box office this year.

Still looking forward to Apocalypse. It looks to be more of a spectacle film that prior X-Men films and not so much wrapped up in the politics of the series.

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#18 Post by RossyG » Wed May 25, 2016 6:39 am

I thought Apocalypse was good if flawed.

On the negative side, it takes an age to get going. It's structure also seemed a bit old fashioned. Some of the CGI is a bit weak too. It's like watching a film made over a decade ago. I also thought the direction was a bit weak at times, with some odd camera angles. One key sequence, seen in the trailer, involving the launching of missiles is given gravitas by the choice of music - Beethoven's Seventh - rather than the filmmaking itself.

It's certainly not as good as Civil War (which I thought also had a few pacing issues) but I still enjoyed it. The cast do a good job and there are two very good action set pieces. One involves Quicksilver and an Annie Lennox song; the other involves violent mayhem in a military research base. It gets better as it goes along and I was never bored.

One demerit for a scene involving Auschwitz being destroyed. It seemed a bit tasteless to me, but there was no malice intended by the filmmakers.

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#19 Post by MongooseCmr » Wed May 25, 2016 2:29 pm

I have less than 0 interest in any more Marvel or DC films, but I've always had a soft spot for X-Men. I loved it as a kid just for having the most characters to fantasize about, but the focus on the ideological battle between Xavier and Magneto over a "city destroyer of the year" plot most blockbuster films have has kept it interesting enough as I get older. Unfortunately Apocalypse seems much more like the latter type of plot. Apocalypse is even right there in the name

At the same time though, I don't think there's been a really great X-men movie yet. All of them lose steam in the third act (though thats my reaction to most blockbusters), and even after 15 years they can't seem to focus on anyone other than the core 5 characters for more than 10 minutes per film. I'm surprised how much Cyclops gets shafted seeing as how he's one of the most iconic characters in the series
Trees wrote:I think, like much of the world, I am starting to suffer from superhero fatigue. I think we may end up looking back on Superman vs Batman as the film that really started the superhero backlash/fatigue.
I'm not sure if the fatigue is widespread, so much as both sides are getting more entrenched and more vocal. People that love superhero films love them almost unconditionally, and those that hate them seem to do it with more vitriol every year.

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#20 Post by RossyG » Wed May 25, 2016 7:14 pm

Cyclops has a fairly decent role in this film and the kid playing him does a good job.

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#21 Post by captveg » Sat May 28, 2016 3:50 pm

There's a certain over familiarity settling in for the Professor X / Magneto / Mystique conflict, and this along with a little too much jumping around in the plot holds this film back from excelling as well as its most recent predecessors (despite some excellent acting by Fassbender). Overall this is still an enjoyable entry, one that has some impressive set pieces (Quicksilver rules the day again), and reintroduces some mutants that have been sorely missed since X2 in Nightcrawler and Cyclops.

I do hope they work with the younger generation's character drama more than the X/M/M drama again in the next film. I also even like Storm in this one. Of the four comic films this year so far I enjoyed it the least, and in contrast to BvS and CW it doesn't have the bigger ideas that allowed me to enjoy those films more. I'd give it a 7/10, maye a 6/10 if I was feeling more harsh towards it.

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#23 Post by Luke M » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:45 pm

This is such wonderful news.

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#24 Post by bearcuborg » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:38 pm

While only my 3rd Marvel movie (liked the first Avengers, couldn’t stand the second) Thor Ragnarok is a hoot.


See it in 3D. The colors are amazing, and it’s full of UK deadpan humor. Jeff Goldblum fits in nicely. It was so much fun, that I was only mildly irritated when it started to tell its story.

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#25 Post by knives » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:11 pm

Kiwi, not UK.

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