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Awards Season 2021

#1 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:13 am

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More Oscars only 10 months away, barring another historic, worldwide disruption to the theatrical exhibition industry!

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#2 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:20 am

Hopefully we at least get a PTA/Wes Anderson/Mike Mills original screenplay competition

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#3 Post by The Narrator Returns » Mon May 10, 2021 2:45 pm

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#4 Post by beamish14 » Mon May 10, 2021 2:51 pm


About time. A $60 million dollar waste for NBC. We can thank Netflix in part for this, as Ted Sarandos was the first to say that they were no longer supporting the HFPA.

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#6 Post by beamish14 » Mon May 10, 2021 3:22 pm

Awards shows are at a major impasse, and the new cycle has yet to begin. I kind of wonder if this will trickle down to other awards like the Pulitzer (which has had a lot of nomination committee issues). The Brit Awards just announced major changes over their ridiculous citizenship requirements.

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#7 Post by knives » Mon May 10, 2021 3:36 pm

Besides everything that is typically wrong with it what new thing started this?

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#8 Post by beamish14 » Mon May 10, 2021 3:57 pm

knives wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 3:36 pm
Besides everything that is typically wrong with it what new thing started this?

Pressure had been building to restructure the HFPA for the lack of diversity among the shoddy journalists in their ranks. Then, their previous president (an Afrikaner!) was revealed to have made some incredibly racist remarks about BLM in some emails. Finally, they didn't commit to making any meaningful changes, and the floodgates burst.

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#9 Post by Pavel » Mon May 10, 2021 4:00 pm

Wasn't the biggest problem their willingness to accept gifts, vacations and bribes in general from studios that wanted their film/series to be "considered"?

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#10 Post by knives » Mon May 10, 2021 4:04 pm

That’s old news. Afrikaner being racist makes more sense as a problem.

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#11 Post by beamish14 » Mon May 10, 2021 4:04 pm

Pavel wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:00 pm
Wasn't the biggest problem their willingness to accept gifts, vacations and bribes in general from studios that wanted their film/series to be "considered"?

Oh, that's been their defining characteristic from the start, and their brazen lack of any scruples with taking bribes has been openly mocked. What's changed is the industry's willingness to tolerate an entity that has no black members.

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#12 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon May 10, 2021 5:01 pm

Somewhat old news, but Brendan Fraser accused the former president of sexual harrassment. In the HFPA's internal investigation of the incident, they concluded that it was just "a joke".

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#13 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon May 10, 2021 5:06 pm

Sounds more like straight up sexual assault to me, and the rebuttal that it was just a "pinch" because of rumors Fraser did it himself to others doesn't exactly spin it into anything else...

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#14 Post by Pavel » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:14 pm


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#15 Post by therewillbeblus » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:35 pm

So now Hamilton is considered a TV movie? I remember when there was rumbling around Oscar chances under consideration as a feature film (which obviously did not happen)- did the distributors decide to categorize it differently for awards chances, or was the categorization imposed by some third-party higher power?

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#16 Post by Pavel » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:55 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:35 pm
So now Hamilton is considered a TV movie? I remember when there was rumbling around Oscar chances under consideration as a feature film (which obviously did not happen)- did the distributors decide to categorize it differently for awards chances, or was the categorization imposed by some third-party higher power?
I can't say for sure, but I remember that Hamilton was deemed ineligible for the Oscars pretty early on into awards season and that Daveed Diggs got a Supporting Actor in a TV Movie or Limited Series nom at the SAGs

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#17 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:19 am

Apparently Cahiers du Cinema exists enough in some form to put together a (fairly conservative and slapdash) year-end editorial list:
An entity calling itself Cahiers Du Cinema wrote: Top 10 films of 2021:
1. First Cow (Kelly Reichardt)
2. Annette (Leos Carax)
3. Memoria (Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
4. Drive My Car (Ryusuke Hamaguchi)
5. France (Bruno Dumont)
6. The French Dispatch (Wes Anderson)
7. À l'abordage (Guillaume Brac)
8. La Jeune Fille et l'Araignée (Silvan Zürcher and Ramon Zürcher)
9. The Card Counter (Paul Schrader)
10. Benedetta (Paul Verhoeven)

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#18 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:44 pm

Never Cursed wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:19 am
Apparently Cahiers du Cinema exists enough in some form to put together a (fairly conservative and slapdash) year-end editorial list:
An entity calling itself Cahiers Du Cinema wrote: Top 10 films of 2021:
1. First Cow (Kelly Reichardt)
2. Annette (Leos Carax)
3. Memoria (Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
4. Drive My Car (Ryusuke Hamaguchi)
5. France (Bruno Dumont)
6. The French Dispatch (Wes Anderson)
7. À l'abordage (Guillaume Brac)
8. La Jeune Fille et l'Araignée (Silvan Zürcher and Ramon Zürcher)
9. The Card Counter (Paul Schrader)
10. Benedetta (Paul Verhoeven)
Funny to see The French Dispatch on there after seeing Jonathan Rosenbaum's criticism of the film. Discerning French viewers love The French Dispatch - what more do you want???
Jonathan Rosenbaum wrote:What I find most disconcerting about Wes Anderson’s new formalist feature is its attitude towards France, which somehow manages to come across as derisive yet disinterested at the same time: not angry or witty enough to be effective as satire yet not observant enough to seem accurate, at least to a onetime resident of that country such as myself. According to all the American reviews I’ve read, it’s not really about France at all but about the American journalists and critics who report from France about France and the French. But because the movie is basically about them and not about the French, it strikes me as being only half-witted much of the time. The material for a knowing send-up of French culture is present yet unexplored and underdeveloped because the movie doesn’t really seem to care much about French people — only about French movies, French food, and other exports.

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#19 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:54 pm


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#20 Post by soundchaser » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:19 pm

I wonder what it would take for Waters NOT to put a Dumont film in his Top 10

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#21 Post by domino harvey » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:28 pm

I would have lost a bet on him having Titane listed

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#22 Post by Maltic » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:52 pm

hearthesilence wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:44 pm

Funny to see The French Dispatch on there after seeing Jonathan Rosenbaum's criticism of the film. Discerning French viewers love The French Dispatch - what more do you want???
Jonathan Rosenbaum wrote:What I find most disconcerting about Wes Anderson’s new formalist feature is its attitude towards France, which somehow manages to come across as derisive yet disinterested at the same time: not angry or witty enough to be effective as satire yet not observant enough to seem accurate, at least to a onetime resident of that country such as myself. According to all the American reviews I’ve read, it’s not really about France at all but about the American journalists and critics who report from France about France and the French. But because the movie is basically about them and not about the French, it strikes me as being only half-witted much of the time. The material for a knowing send-up of French culture is present yet unexplored and underdeveloped because the movie doesn’t really seem to care much about French people — only about French movies, French food, and other exports.

I was about to ask whether J-Ro took the opportunity to mention that he used to live in France :)

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#23 Post by hearthesilence » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:04 pm

From Richard Brody:

"Fascinating detail in Marcos Uzal's excellent editorial on @cahierscinema year-end list: [translated] 'the re-evaluation of The French Dispatch by many of us after our nearly unanimous disappointment at Cannes,' their recognition on second viewing that among other things, 'what we could take for a sterile saturation is rather a matter of mad experimentation.' As I said, you have to see it twice to see it once."

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#24 Post by DarkImbecile » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:31 pm

And here’s The French Dispatch atop Brody’s top 35 of the year

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Re: Awards Season 2021

#25 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:36 pm

Love that @zola placement

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