Sicario Films (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/2018)

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#26 Post by Zot! » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:20 am

I found it even more insulting that the government couldn't find a less problematic stooge to allow them to continue their activities. Cool soundtrack though and DV is a master stylist.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#27 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:01 pm

If it's just Del Toro maintaining the quiet bad-ass demeanor for another two hours, count me in.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#28 Post by FrauBlucher » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:48 pm

I had a hard time with Blunt's character as well. There is a time for a moral compass, but this wasn't it if you wanted an accurate story of what goes on at the border, with drug cartels and how the Feds deal with them. Even the local police on the border knows the game and the duplicity used. Blunt's character shouldn't have been written as a naive law enforcer.

Del Toro was awesome for sure.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#29 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:22 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:Del Toro was awesome for sure.
Watching it again last night, he reminded me strongly of Charles Bronson just before he
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kills the drug dealer's family.
It really holds up. Emily Blunt's character is problematic but not so much that I'm taken out of it. She's a good actress and maybe deserved better, but glad her character won't return.

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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)

#30 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:13 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:Well-put. I recently watched Sicario again and it definitely holds up.
I'm glad to hear that a movie from way back in 2015 holds up.

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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)

#31 Post by krnash » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:04 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:I'm glad to hear that a movie from way back in 2015 holds up.
Often when people say this it is a response to their first viewing, rather than age.

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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)

#32 Post by Mr Sausage » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:20 pm

krnash wrote:
mfunk9786 wrote:I'm glad to hear that a movie from way back in 2015 holds up.
Often when people say this it is a response to their first viewing, rather than age.
Yeah, 'holds up' has a few different meanings. Holds up to repeat viewings, holds up under scrutiny, holds up to the passage of time, etc.

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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)

#33 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:20 am

For me, it's more about the rather large following it got online. When stuff gets that kind of following, I tend to be more skeptical, to the point of a little doubt as to how well I liked it the first time. But not in this case.

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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)

#34 Post by aox » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:03 am

I didn't realize this was the same director as Sicario. I thought Sicario was a movie that fell apart in its final act
Yeah, I hadn't realized it either. I had the same problem with Sicario. That final act really destroyed that film for me. My memory isn't great, but I seem to recall the point-of-view shift was very jarring. I'm still excited for this, and will probably go tomorrow night.

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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)

#35 Post by Luke M » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:52 pm

aox wrote:
I didn't realize this was the same director as Sicario. I thought Sicario was a movie that fell apart in its final act
Yeah, I hadn't realized it either. I had the same problem with Sicario. That final act really destroyed that film for me. My memory isn't great, but I seem to recall the point-of-view shift was very jarring. I'm still excited for this, and will probably go tomorrow night.
Yes. My thoughts on Sicario as if I were writing a meme:

*watches 2/3 of Sicario*
me: what a fascinating take on a woman struggling to prove herself in a male dominated environment
Villeneuve: lol
*watches final act*
me: goddammit

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#36 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:35 pm

The point of view shift was prepared for earlier in the film (the interrogation scene). The del Toro character allows us to see things the Blunt character would not be privy to.

I don't mind the ending, but this is definitely a case of a film whose latter half lacks a set piece worthy of the two brilliant ones in the first half.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#37 Post by John Cope » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:38 pm

I love the film but don't remember it note for note. What is it about the final act that apparently upsets or disappoints so many people?

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#38 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:56 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:The point of view shift was prepared for earlier in the film (the interrogation scene). The del Toro character allows us to see things the Blunt character would not be privy to.
Yeah, I didn't see it as such a major shift when the third act was kicking in. It also ties in with the scenes with the Mexican police officer nicely.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#39 Post by Cold Bishop » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:37 pm

It's a major reason I'm so ambivalent about a sequel (even before Villenueve departed): I think giving Blunt's character some redemption/revenge would be a more satisfying continuation than pushing the film deeper into drug-war pulp.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#40 Post by solaris72 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:45 pm

I thought this take on the film was really interesting.

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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)

#41 Post by solaris72 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:49 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:I don't mind the ending, but this is definitely a case of a film whose latter half lacks a set piece worthy of the two brilliant ones in the first half.
I'd say the night vision tunnel sequence was as great a set piece as anything else in the movie.


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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#43 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:43 am

Soldado trailer. Looks a little more amped-up in terms of the action. Hopefully it's not at the expense of the tension.

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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#44 Post by Ribs » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:58 am

I'm very surprised by the decision to make the title a very clunky "Sicario 2: Soldado" instead of... just Soldado.

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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#45 Post by tenia » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:04 pm

I suppose Sicario has this kind of wider popularity they just want to capitalize onto.


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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#47 Post by Big Ben » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:04 pm

The title is now literally Hitman 2: Day of the Soldier in English.

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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#48 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:17 pm

They could have at least done the whole title in Spanish

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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#49 Post by knives » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:21 pm

Dia del soldado does have a ring to it.

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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/

#50 Post by Boosmahn » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:30 pm

I agree with knives, "Dia del Soldado" does sound kind of nice. Anyway, I wish they'd get rid of that Sicario mark. Audiences can infer it's a part of this series, surely (even without Emily Blunt)?

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