A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#26 Post by Feego » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:32 pm

I do remember at some point in the late 90s/early 2000s there was serious talk about teaming Will Smith (as mentioned above) and Jennifer Lopez for a remake. This likely would have ventured into the hip hop/R&B scene had it actually happened.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#27 Post by jorencain » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:44 pm

A few months ago, Sean Penn was on WTF, and he went on and on to Marc Maron about how incredible this movie is. He’s a huge fan of it.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#28 Post by Lost Highway » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:55 am

Fiery Angel wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:52 pm
Werewolf by Night wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:49 pm
The great thing about all the various versions of this story is that they are each very much of their time. This one will be no exception.
which may be why each version is worse than the previous one
Do you honestly think the 1954 version is worse than the 1937 one ?

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#29 Post by knives » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:45 am

Not who you are quoting, but while worse seems too strong a term, I prefer the '37 version and would more readily rewatch it.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#30 Post by thirtyframesasecond » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:08 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:39 pm
thirtyframesasecond wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:53 pm
Casting Gaga might've been a good idea 4-5 years ago but her career has been on the skids for a while. If you wanted to cast someone who can sing, act and is relatively popular, at least ask Selena Gomez or someone.
Selena Gomez isn't even able to sing her own songs well...
I don't know, Bad Liar was pretty decent (purely for the Psycho Killer bassline). And she really brought in that breathy, not really being able to sing shtick that Camila Cabello et al mine.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#31 Post by Fiery Angel » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:47 pm

thirtyframesasecond wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:08 pm
Mr Sausage wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:39 pm
thirtyframesasecond wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:53 pm
Casting Gaga might've been a good idea 4-5 years ago but her career has been on the skids for a while. If you wanted to cast someone who can sing, act and is relatively popular, at least ask Selena Gomez or someone.
Selena Gomez isn't even able to sing her own songs well...
I don't know, Bad Liar was pretty decent (purely for the Psycho Killer bassline). And she really brought in that breathy, not really being able to sing shtick that Camila Cabello et al mine.
actually Britney was doing it long before any of them

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#32 Post by Fiery Angel » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:47 pm

Lost Highway wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:55 am
Fiery Angel wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:52 pm
Werewolf by Night wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:49 pm
The great thing about all the various versions of this story is that they are each very much of their time. This one will be no exception.
which may be why each version is worse than the previous one
Do you honestly think the 1954 version is worse than the 1937 one ?
yes

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#33 Post by R0lf » Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:31 pm

Saying Gaga's career is on the skids and she has no talent is a bit like when people level the same criticism at Kristen Stewart...

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#34 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:12 pm

She was in the god damn Super Bowl halftime show last year

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#35 Post by jbeall » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:39 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:12 pm
She was in the god damn Super Bowl halftime show last year
And she was goddamn amazing, even if the game's result was heartbreaking for this Falcon fan. Her music isn't in the style I'm typically into, but no way I'll deny her talent.

At any rate, finding out that Jason Isbell wrote the song "Maybe It's Time" is enough for me to see it. He's the real deal. The film might be underwhelming, but there's some serious songwriting talent working on the soundtrack.
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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#36 Post by R0lf » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:14 am

People: I don't like Judy Garland and I don't like Barbra Streisand.
Same People: I don't like Lady Gaga and she is wrong for THE STAR IS BORN remake.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#37 Post by Lost Highway » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:44 am

Streisand was wrong for the role. She may have been good casting in the 60s (Funny Girl has a similar narrative in a lighter tone) but by the mid-70s her ego was so all consuming that the vulnerability and insecurity which are essential for the early stages of the film, were out of her range. She's also completely unable to convey grief by the end of the movie in what may be one of the worst acting moments of all time. Then the film ends with an eight minute close up of her.

I've only recently bothered to sit down and watch the whole of the 70s version, which I'd previously only seen in bits and pieces on TV. It's a total train wreck of a movie. I can't think of another film where the star feels so disconnected from the material and their character. The only good thing I can say about it is that Kris Kristofferson looks hot.


I'm sure Fiery Angel will come along in a moment to tell me that I'm wrong ;)

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#38 Post by phoenix474 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:00 pm

While the word of mouth is very positive for the movie ahead of the Friday premiere in Venice, I thought this would be fun to share: Talkhouse.com went a bit further than just vague tweets and posted a full review that's now been removed. Gaga fansites salvaged parts of it, and the reviewer apparently compared Cooper to "Scorsese, Cassavetes, Kubrick, Hitchcock and Bergman", and that
The undeniable standout is Lady Gaga, whose performance here goes far beyond what we typically think of as great acting and moves into the territory of, say, Gena Rowlands in A Woman Under the Influence
(As ridiculous and hyperbolic as that sounds, the Gaga fan in me is gonna furiously spread that review)

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#39 Post by Big Ben » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:33 pm

My father ever the curmudgeon hated the stuff Gaga did solo but went...gaga over the stuff she did with Tony Bennett. She can certainly sing but I've not seen her act.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#40 Post by thirtyframesasecond » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:57 pm

I didn't finish the AHS series she was in (Hotel). It was undeniably glamorous but just didn't really seem to go anywhere, especially as the previous ones were really strong.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#41 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:02 pm

phoenix474 wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:00 pm
While the word of mouth is very positive for the movie ahead of the Friday premiere in Venice, I thought this would be fun to share: Talkhouse.com went a bit further than just vague tweets and posted a full review that's now been removed. Gaga fansites salvaged parts of it, and the reviewer apparently compared Cooper to "Scorsese, Cassavetes, Kubrick, Hitchcock and Bergman", and that
The undeniable standout is Lady Gaga, whose performance here goes far beyond what we typically think of as great acting and moves into the territory of, say, Gena Rowlands in A Woman Under the Influence
(As ridiculous and hyperbolic as that sounds, the Gaga fan in me is gonna furiously spread that review)
I wish I never had to read this post

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#42 Post by domino harvey » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pm

I have no problem believing Lady Gaga could give a better performance than Gena Rowlands. That's not really much of a compliment to either party, though

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#43 Post by Dead or Deader » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:21 am

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#44 Post by domino harvey » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:39 am

Who the fuck wrote that

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#45 Post by Big Ben » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:16 am

I can't stop laughing. It's like someone wrote that for a comedy.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#46 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:40 pm

It was from Talkhouse, and then quickly removed

If you didn't know what Talkhouse was, neither did I - it's run by Josh Modell long of the AV Club, who I always found affable there, but I'm unsure who penned the review.

The buzz on this film is absolutely insane compared to the unbearably treacly trailer, something's gotta give in one direction or another here, cannot wait for the embargo to be up to find out what's what

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#47 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:53 pm

More that is allegedly from the Talkhouse review, including the bit that phoenix474 highlighted above:

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This excerpt almost seems like a Lady Gaga fansite just made it up out of thin air. The descriptions of her acting seem like they were written by someone who never spent much time thinking about acting before, outside of perhaps writing local theater reviews or something

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#48 Post by Big Ben » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:58 pm

I know there's a secret plot to give domino a coronary through posts like that but Jesus I can't read that with a straight face.

WE'LL SEE.

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#49 Post by phoenix474 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:03 pm

Peter Bradshaw also says it's "absolutely brilliant"

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Re: A Star Is Born (Bradley Cooper, 2018)

#50 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:05 pm

If it's from an actual review on Talkhouse, I'm starting to wonder if maybe... well...

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phoenix474 wrote:
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Peter Bradshaw also says it's "absolutely brilliant"
Eep.

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