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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:56 pm 
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Jeff wrote:
Criterion just more or less confirmed Something Wild, which is an absolutely fantastic acquisition.


i hope you're referring to the Carroll Baker/Ralph Meeker film :?


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:23 pm 
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zachhh wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Criterion just more or less confirmed Something Wild, which is an absolutely fantastic acquisition.

i hope you're referring to the Carroll Baker/Ralph Meeker film :?

Nope, the wonderful Jonathan Demme film.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:46 pm 

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No : Hair, Ball of Fire, The Woman in the Window

Don't know if it's worth bothering Criterion about on Facebook but MGM put West Side Story out of print recently. (It had a two disc special edition) Was there anything of note on the Criterion laserdisc that would lead one to think it's a possibility? Seems odd that MGM would retire that title at any rate.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:57 pm 
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Don't count on it. MGM (or whoever takes over MGM) will undoubtedly be putting out a massive West Side Story 40th anniversary DVD & BR in 2011.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:29 pm 

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I didn't seriously think there was a chance. I just found it odd that it went out of print. A new 40th anniversary dvd/upgrade makes sense.

While not his most acclaimed film by ANY means, I wouldn't be surprised if Costa-Gavra's Betrayed might be one of the titles. Have never seen the film but have heard both good and bad things about it. I love all the Costa-Gavras stuff I've seen so far. Any thoughts on this title? Reading about the film's plot, there certainly seems to be some good potential for some interesting supplments. MGM disc is barebones.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:22 pm 

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ianungstad wrote:
No : Hair, Ball of Fire, The Woman in the Window.

For a moment I thought you had asked about a horror movie about cats called HAIRBALL OF FIRE.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:24 pm 
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ianungstad wrote:
Don't know if it's worth bothering Criterion about on Facebook but MGM put West Side Story out of print recently. (It had a two disc special edition) Was there anything of note on the Criterion laserdisc that would lead one to think it's a possibility? Seems odd that MGM would retire that title at any rate.

That 2XDVD set was ridiculous, heavy as a brick and stuffed with extras. Wonder what they'd even add?


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:47 pm 
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Criterion already shot down speculation about picking up the MGM Truffauts, but it should be pointed out that MGM appears not to have them anymore either -- at least not all of them. Independent theatrical distributor The Film Desk is touring new prints of Small Change, Mississippi Mermaid, and The Wild Child. Their great new poster for Small Change lists Mk2 as the licensor. I'm assuming the rights to these reverted to the Truffaut estate and his Les Films du Carrosse production company. Mk2 has distributed on behalf of the estate for some time, and the other Criterion Truffauts are licensed from them. The Film Desk only licenses theatrical rights, so it remains to be seen who will pick up the U.S. video rights.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:22 pm 
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Jeff wrote:
Criterion already shot down speculation about picking up the MGM Truffauts, but it should be pointed out that MGM appears not to have them anymore either -- at least not all of them. Independent theatrical distributor The Film Desk is touring new prints of Small Change, Mississippi Mermaid, and The Wild Child. Their great new poster for Small Change lists Mk2 as the licensor. I'm assuming the rights to these reverted to the Truffaut estate and his Les Films du Carrosse production company. Mk2 has distributed on behalf of the estate for some time, and the other Criterion Truffauts are licensed from them. The Film Desk only licenses theatrical rights, so it remains to be seen who will pick up the U.S. video rights.

I assumed that MGM still held the home video rights. I'm ecstatic to see that not only are they selling the wonderful poster, but that the film will show up in Edmonton. This is one of the stronger MGM Truffauts.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:31 pm 
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bradass wrote:
I assumed that MGM still held the home video rights.

They may very well have them for The Wild Child and Mississippi Mermaid, as those still seem to be available, but the MGM release of Small Change is indeed out of print, and that Mk2 logo on the poster (with no credit to original theatrical distributors New World or United Artists) seems to indicate that their rights may have expired.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:06 pm 
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I want to see Mississippi Mermaid and was going to rent it on Netflix (I'm usually hit-or-miss when it comes to my appreciation of François Truffaut, however, I'm a big fan of the two leads in this one), but after looking at the DVDBeaver screenshots, geez! I'll pass. Hopefully someone gets this out on DVD quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:08 pm 
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james wrote:
I want to see Mississippi Mermaid and was going to rent it on Netflix (I'm usually hit-or-miss when it comes to my appreciation of François Truffaut, however, I'm a big fan of the two leads in this one), but after looking at the DVDBeaver screenshots, geez! I'll pass. Hopefully someone gets this out on DVD quickly.

It's such a shit movie though.
Also, I think The Film Desk distributes their films through Zeitgeist, so a Criterion aint happening.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:06 am 
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james wrote:
I want to see Mississippi Mermaid and was going to rent it on Netflix (I'm usually hit-or-miss when it comes to my appreciation of François Truffaut, however, I'm a big fan of the two leads in this one), but after looking at the DVDBeaver screenshots, geez! I'll pass. Hopefully someone gets this out on DVD quickly.

It's such a shit movie though.

It wouldn't surprise me to be quite honest. The stills on The Film Desk's website look pretty awesome though.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:46 am 
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justeleblanc wrote:
It's such a shit movie though.
Well, for a contrary opinion, I usually dislike Truffaut but I thought this one was rather interesting. I only watched it because it's supposed to be one of Arnaud Desplechin's favorite movies, and I was surprised I didn't hate it. The MGM disc is appalling, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:12 am 

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justeleblanc wrote:
Also, I think The Film Desk distributes their films through Zeitgeist

It's not that simple. Many of Film Desk's titles are strictly licensed for theatrical distribution.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:48 pm 
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Has anyone asked about The Manchurian Candidate? The SE of it is now out of print...one I never did get around to picking up...don't know that an upgrade is needed...or like WSS is an anniversary coming?


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:06 pm 

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It is in the John Frankenheimer set. MGM over the last two years have started an annoying habit of discontinuing individual discs so that you have to buy their boxsets. They've done this with the Billy Wilder, Woody Allen, Ingmar Bergman titles. They also have started discontinuing the individual Scorsese and Frankenheimer titles. Kind of a lousy practice, IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:02 pm 

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Jeff wrote:
They may very well have them for The Wild Child and Mississippi Mermaid, as those still seem to be available, but the MGM release of Small Change is indeed out of print, and that Mk2 logo on the poster (with no credit to original theatrical distributors New World or United Artists) seems to indicate that their rights may have expired.


Only the theatrical rights have expired; MGM still has television and home video.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:53 pm 
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Jameson281 wrote:
Only the theatrical rights have expired; MGM still has television and home video.

Thanks for the clarification, Jameson.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:54 pm 

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ianungstad wrote:
MGM over the last two years have started an annoying habit of discontinuing individual discs so that you have to buy their boxsets. They've done this with the Billy Wilder, Woody Allen, Ingmar Bergman titles. They also have started discontinuing the individual Scorsese and Frankenheimer titles. Kind of a lousy practice, IMO.

What a bunch of shitheads. I wish they'd go bankrupt.

Oh, wait....


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:36 pm 

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Jameson281 wrote:
Jeff wrote:
They may very well have them for The Wild Child and Mississippi Mermaid, as those still seem to be available, but the MGM release of Small Change is indeed out of print, and that Mk2 logo on the poster (with no credit to original theatrical distributors New World or United Artists) seems to indicate that their rights may have expired.

Only the theatrical rights have expired; MGM still has television and home video.

Frelling frak. The endless wait for The Green Room continues. Come on Criterion, get that one at the very least.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:54 pm 
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I asked about Darling, which is technically Studio Canal, though released barebones by MGM. It seems like an obvious Criterion to pair with Billy Liar.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:23 pm 
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Highway 61 wrote:
Don't count on it. MGM (or whoever takes over MGM) will undoubtedly be putting out a massive West Side Story 50th anniversary DVD & BR in 2011.

Fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:27 pm 

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Jeff wrote:
Criterion just more or less confirmed Something Wild, which is an absolutely fantastic acquisition.

Do you have any further details? This is one of my favorite films and I had never even contemplated a Criterion release. I have the original MGM release from 2001 and it appears to still be available as a double feature with DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN. Was watching a free HD broadcast (courtesy of Comcast OnDemand) last night and thought about how much I'd like to hear from Demme, Griffith, Daniels, Liotta, and screenwriter E. Max Frye about their fine work here.

From the set of SOMETHING WILD, courtesy of Life archives


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 Post subject: Re: Criterion & MGM
PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:37 pm 
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kneelzod wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Criterion just more or less confirmed Something Wild, which is an absolutely fantastic acquisition.
Do you have any further details?

No. We just know that Criterion has acquired a dozen or so MGM titles, and when I asked them about the possibility of Something Wild, they responded, "Have you been talking to Jonathan Demme?" or something to that effect. Seems like a pretty good indicator that Demme is working with them on it. I expect the first few titles from this new batch of MGM acquisitions will be announced within the next couple of months.


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