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Re: Fantoma

#151 Post by starmanof51 » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:58 pm

teddyleevin wrote:Has anyone got any definitive info on the reason for the discontinuing?
I don't think we know that is is discontinuing, just getting scarce. Print runs may have been smallish - this is Fantoma we're talking about. Their own site still sells it.

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Re: Fantoma

#152 Post by teddyleevin » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:55 pm

starmanof51 wrote:
teddyleevin wrote:Has anyone got any definitive info on the reason for the discontinuing?
I don't think we know that is is discontinuing, just getting scarce. Print runs may have been smallish - this is Fantoma we're talking about. Their own site still sells it.
Their website just links you to amazon.

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Re: Fantoma

#153 Post by Bete_Noire » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:45 am

I have not seen any signs that Volume 2 is being discontinued, only Volume 1.

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Re: Fantoma

#154 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:58 pm

Oggilby on Avant Garde thread wrote:Fantoma's first volume of Kenneth Anger films went OOP a few months ago, but the second pressing will be out on Jan 23rd.
I stayed quiet on this for the last few months since I'd finally got around to ordering a copy of it literally the week before the comments about the first volume going out of print were posted! I can confirm though that I received my copy of Volume One through the post today, so it looks as if it is available again!

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Re: Fantoma

#155 Post by der_Artur » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:48 pm

colinr0380 wrote:I can confirm though that I received my copy of Volume One through the post today, so it looks as if it is available again!
In some other thread it was allready mentioned that this is now a second printing of the first volume. Mine has been shiped on 19th of january, looking forward to it.

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Re: Fantoma

#156 Post by Ashirg » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:46 am

Is Fantoma coming back?

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Re: Fantoma

#157 Post by Perkins Cobb » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:58 pm

Ashirg wrote:Is Fantoma coming back?
They have that ("The Complete Magick Lantern Cycle") on their website now, but it's just a bundled pack of the two Kenneth Anger sets, right?

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Re: Fantoma

#158 Post by Napier » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:43 pm

Ashirg wrote:Is Fantoma coming back?
I wasn't aware they went anywhere. :-k

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Re: Fantoma

#159 Post by What A Disgrace » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:47 pm

They haven't released anything in nearly two years. I thought for sure they were defunct.

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Re: Fantoma

#160 Post by Jean-Luc Garbo » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:28 am

For all the talk of Yasuzo Masamura and Red Angel in the Mr. Lawrence thread, cany anyone offer any recommendations or appreciations of his other films on Fantoma? I just ordered Red Angel and want to get an impression of his other films that I'll most likely watch next.

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Re: Fantoma

#161 Post by oldsheperd » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:39 am

Jean-Luc Garbo wrote:For all the talk of Yasuzo Masamura and Red Angel in the Mr. Lawrence thread, cany anyone offer any recommendations or appreciations of his other films on Fantoma? I just ordered Red Angel and want to get an impression of his other films that I'll most likely watch next.
Giants and Toys is a pretty fun little film.

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Re: Fantoma

#162 Post by Peacock » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:41 am

And Kisses is great, one of the key films to start off the J-New Wave, quite different to Masumura's later films in style, but so far my favorite.... (It has a really good quality UK disk, think it's from Second Sight or Yume)

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Re: Fantoma

#163 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:35 pm

I have seen the six Masamura's that Fantoma has released and have no problem saying that each one has sports a pretty good transfer with no special features aside from a trailer and an essay. The colors are a little soft, but my experience with films released by Daiei in the sixties, the color is always soft when in comparison with the color processes Shochiku and Toho must have been using (from my experience with the Zatoichi films and others like An Actor's Revenge, but I am not sure. Anyone know about the Daieicolor process?) and there is some minuscule print damage, but nothing you wouldn't see in an actual 35mm print. Masamura is probably the most underrated satirist in cinema and I'm glad you're going to check out his stuff, Jean-Luc Garbo!

Giants and Toys is my personal favorite. It's an angry Frank Tashlin movie (with some really similar color schemes to boot). The perfect film for Japan's rise to the economic powerhouse it still is today. World Caramels has to compete with the huge competition in the world of children's sweets in order to be the most successful in the cut throat business world. In the end of the day, people are sacrificing sanity, well-being and love in order to gain money and move up in the world.

The polar opposite in tact but with similar cruelty in the world of business would be Black Test Car. The genteel business man of Ozu films or the salary man comedy is gone. Instead you get angry men in nice suits acting like bullies all around town all in the name of commerce and success. Two car companies are competing in order to see who will make Japan's first sportscar. Aside from emotional risk, unlike Giants and Toys, this has a serious risk of death or violence around each corner. One of the strongest and most tense films about the extent of post-war business with an ending that's a little bit on the The Bad Sleep Well tinge, just with a wee bit less pessimistic.

Manji and Blind Beast are the sleazier side of Masamura. There he exams the extents of love and eroticism and what brings these obsessions. The love in these films is based completely on awkward and insecure obsession, not actual romance or care for an other human being. As fantastic as Manji's lesbian entanglements can be, I think Blind Beast is a legitimate masterpiece and features what is probably the greatest set in cinema history with some amazing photography in the beginning the almost feel more at place with Toshio Matsumoto's Funeral Parade of Roses. It's rare to ever see a film tackle body issues and the simple joys of touching flesh without ever being pornographic or phony. It also features one of the best psychedelic/baroque soundtracks I've ever heard in a film and it kills me that I can't find a Masamura music compilation anywhere.

Afraid to Die is the odd duck among the releases. What seems to have been created with the inception of being just a quickie yakuza film for the studio ended up being something of a parody or look at the yakuza film. Mishima's soft fact, strong upper body and weak legs works perfectly for his borderline misogynist thug. I like the film, but the fact I can't take Mishima seriously and just reflect on his literary works instead brings the film to a different level which almost disconnects me from the crime aspect and makes it almost on a Brectian level; at least for me, anyways. Fantastic jazzy soundtrack that's on par with the best of Seijun Suzuki.

I hope for some reason Fantoma decides to release more films and more Masamura because the man is one of the cinematic greats.

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Re: Fantoma

#164 Post by zedz » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:20 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote: I think Blind Beast is a legitimate masterpiece and features what is probably the greatest set in cinema history.
Since I was just about to say exactly the same thing, I'll one-up you with some stills:
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Re: Fantoma

#165 Post by Perkins Cobb » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:21 am

Peacock wrote:And Kisses is great, one of the key films to start off the J-New Wave, quite different to Masumura's later films in style, but so far my favorite.... (It has a really good quality UK disk, think it's from Second Sight or Yume)
'Fraid not, it's a poor NTSC->PAL conversion with the trademark flutter. Probably the only English-subbed transfer out there though.
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Re: Fantoma

#166 Post by duck duck » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:06 pm

Does anyone know who has Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street or if we will ever see it?

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Re: Fantoma

#167 Post by dwk » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:44 pm

I think Olive has Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street

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