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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#201 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:00 pm


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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#202 Post by Ashirg » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:37 pm

Answering someone's questions about ONE TWO THREE and MISSISSIPPI BURNING, MisterLime says in another forum:
Not with Kino. Both have been acquired by 2 other labels and hopefully you will see their announcements soon.
I wonder if ONE TWO THREE is with Criterion and MISSISSIPPI BURNING with Twilight Time? Neither title fits with Shout Factory's line-up.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#203 Post by cdnchris » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:45 pm

It will probably be the other way around and there will be a collective WTF when they're announced.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#204 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:46 pm

Mississippi Burning is about one two three million times better than One Two Three, not that it's a fair comparison

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#205 Post by jsteffe » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:01 pm

domino harvey wrote:Mississippi Burning is about one two three million times better than One Two Three, not that it's a fair comparison
That's highly debatable, especially since the films are so very different. I think it's a matter of taste. The first time I watched Mississippi Burning I found it emotionally powerful, but I'm not even sure that it's Parker's best film. One Two Three is a sharp screwball comedy, and I *literally* fell out of my chair laughing the first time I saw it. (It was the "torture" scene that killed me.)

But regardless it's great that both films will get the Blu-ray treatment, because they both deserve it.

I'm still waiting for that AIP Beach Party box set, Kino, Shout Factory or whoever!
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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#206 Post by The Narrator Returns » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:02 pm

domino harvey wrote:Mississippi Burning is about one two three million times better than One Two Three, not that it's a fair comparison
I was about to say, Criterion is getting in the business of releasing things solely to piss domino off. I imagine One, Two, Three will contain a commentary by Stephen Daldry and an essay by Stanley Kramer.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#207 Post by FrauBlucher » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:09 pm

Ashirg wrote:Answering someone's questions about ONE TWO THREE and MISSISSIPPI BURNING, MisterLime says in another forum:
Not with Kino. Both have been acquired by 2 other labels and hopefully you will see their announcements soon.
I wonder if ONE TWO THREE is with Criterion and MISSISSIPPI BURNING with Twilight Time? Neither title fits with Shout Factory's line-up.
For what's it worth, Alan Parker does not have a phantom page.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#208 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:10 pm

It'd be an essay by Lena Dunham on Stanley Kramer that'd do it for me

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It's interesting speculation, because I can honestly say either Twilight Time or Criterion releasing either film would make "sense" based on their past releasing, so who can say. And of course there could be some other label we're not factoring in, though I'm not sure who it would be?

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#209 Post by Gregory » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:12 pm

Maybe the FBI should release Mississippi Burning on Blu-ray, since it's essentially a promo film for them, depicting them as a crime-fighting investigative agency that protected people's rights, whereas in reality they were engaged in espionage against the civil rights movement and its leaders (virtually all socially engaged black Americans, really) in order to disrupt their activities by means of secret COINTELPRO projects (see the books of Kenneth O'Reilly for evidence, among others). But for those who don't mind whitewashing, it's perfectly ordinary '80s feel-good-about-the-imagined-past cinema.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#210 Post by knives » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:17 pm

I actually could see Shout! releasing the Parker, though if that means dealing with the personalities that would come out with a Crit release of the Wilder I'd rather not.

Edit: Gregory, the film is pretty open about the FBI, with all the references to Hoover, being filled with racist scumbugs even giving Hackman a speech about the FBI's work against MLK. The film does not seem to be praising the institution, but rather the people at the bottom who did do good things. All portrayals of FBI officers don't need to have a negative angle you know.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#211 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:22 pm

Gene Hackman comes off good only when he plays by his own rules, separate from the bureau. The young FBI by-the-books character of Willem Dafoe only makes things worse throughout the picture. It's hard for me to see the film as pro-FBI when the central agents only get results when not acting like FBI agents

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#212 Post by Gregory » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:24 pm

Fair enough. Just curious: who were some of these FBI agents the Hackman character was based on, who were able to further the cause of fighting injustice against civil rights activists with FBI resources by working against the grain of the agency's higher-ups? All too often the malignancy of the agency is attributed to Hoover alone (usually portrayed as a loose cannon, overly vindictive, and a deviant to boot!), and there is a particular whitewash of the "the organization wasn't all bad" type.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#213 Post by knives » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:35 pm

I don't think he's actually based on anyone. The initial murder is very loosely based on an actual incident, but all of the stuff concerning the FBI is fiction.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#214 Post by Gregory » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:35 pm

Exactly.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#215 Post by Cronenfly » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:52 pm

Well, whichever label is more likely to provide the film with a dismissive Jonathan Rosenbaum interview/commentary (he feels just about the same as Gregory about Parker's movie) is the one I would get behind.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#216 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:58 pm

Rosenbaum can be a great and insightful critic (and indeed he's one of my favorites) but his "review" of Mississippi Burning is so unfair and ridiculous that it boggles my mind that anyone, consciously or not, would be trying to align themselves with it. His essay is irresponsible at best and bears no real relation to the film itself.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#217 Post by Red Screamer » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:41 pm

domino harvey wrote:Rosenbaum can be a great and insightful critic (and indeed he's one of my favorites) but his "review" of Mississippi Burning is so unfair and ridiculous that it boggles my mind that anyone, consciously or not, would be trying to align themselves with it. His essay is irresponsible at best and bears no real relation to the film itself.
Rosenbaum has to be the most uneven critic I've ever read, his pieces are either brilliant and piercing or lazy and condescending. I still enjoy reading him, but man is he frustrating

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#218 Post by knives » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:48 pm

I wouldn't really call this one condescending though (definitely lazy though). He makes a lot of really good and interesting points and ties it well to his own life making for a compelling essay which just has the misfortune to completely ignore the text of the film it is about and what it is choosing to say given the conditions it was made in. The jabs against Parker are also pretty silly and that's as someone who isn't particularly fond of his films.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#219 Post by Cronenfly » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:35 pm

Irresponsible or not, I would have very much enjoyed, say, a now strictly hypothetical Chicago critics' cage match commentary between Rosenbaum and Ebert (with the addressing of blind spots on both sides, one would hope). It seems, at the very least, like a movie which would benefit from some contrasting viewpoints and not the usual fawning of all too many supplements, scholarly or otherwise, if not the out-of-hand dismissal Rosenbaum would be apt to give it. The likely Kirgo/Redman/guest commentary on what will almost certainly be a Twilight Time disc might do some of this, but any further contextual supplements/outside perspectives seem beyond their current scope as a label.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#220 Post by domino harvey » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:39 pm

White Lightning also coming in November. This label sure has the Burt Reynolds completists covered

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#221 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:01 pm

domino harvey wrote:This label sure has the Burt Reynolds completists covered
Truer words were never spake: Gator is now also coming in November

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#222 Post by knives » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:10 pm

Finally.

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#223 Post by dwk » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:12 pm

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#224 Post by domino harvey » Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:13 pm

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Re: Kino: MGM Acquisitions

#225 Post by Feego » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:12 pm

Interesting that they based the Topkapi cover on an old VHS edition rather than original poster artwork as they have for most of their pre-1970s releases.

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