Sicario Films (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/2018)
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
I found it even more insulting that the government couldn't find a less problematic stooge to allow them to continue their activities. Cool soundtrack though and DV is a master stylist.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
If it's just Del Toro maintaining the quiet bad-ass demeanor for another two hours, count me in.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
I had a hard time with Blunt's character as well. There is a time for a moral compass, but this wasn't it if you wanted an accurate story of what goes on at the border, with drug cartels and how the Feds deal with them. Even the local police on the border knows the game and the duplicity used. Blunt's character shouldn't have been written as a naive law enforcer.
Del Toro was awesome for sure.
Del Toro was awesome for sure.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
Watching it again last night, he reminded me strongly of Charles Bronson just before heFrauBlucher wrote:Del Toro was awesome for sure.
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kills the drug dealer's family.
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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
I'm glad to hear that a movie from way back in 2015 holds up.flyonthewall2983 wrote:Well-put. I recently watched Sicario again and it definitely holds up.
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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
Often when people say this it is a response to their first viewing, rather than age.mfunk9786 wrote:I'm glad to hear that a movie from way back in 2015 holds up.
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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
Yeah, 'holds up' has a few different meanings. Holds up to repeat viewings, holds up under scrutiny, holds up to the passage of time, etc.krnash wrote:Often when people say this it is a response to their first viewing, rather than age.mfunk9786 wrote:I'm glad to hear that a movie from way back in 2015 holds up.
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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
For me, it's more about the rather large following it got online. When stuff gets that kind of following, I tend to be more skeptical, to the point of a little doubt as to how well I liked it the first time. But not in this case.
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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
Yeah, I hadn't realized it either. I had the same problem with Sicario. That final act really destroyed that film for me. My memory isn't great, but I seem to recall the point-of-view shift was very jarring. I'm still excited for this, and will probably go tomorrow night.I didn't realize this was the same director as Sicario. I thought Sicario was a movie that fell apart in its final act
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Re: Arrival (Denis Villeneuve, 2016)
Yes. My thoughts on Sicario as if I were writing a meme:aox wrote:Yeah, I hadn't realized it either. I had the same problem with Sicario. That final act really destroyed that film for me. My memory isn't great, but I seem to recall the point-of-view shift was very jarring. I'm still excited for this, and will probably go tomorrow night.I didn't realize this was the same director as Sicario. I thought Sicario was a movie that fell apart in its final act
*watches 2/3 of Sicario*
me: what a fascinating take on a woman struggling to prove herself in a male dominated environment
Villeneuve: lol
*watches final act*
me: goddammit
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
The point of view shift was prepared for earlier in the film (the interrogation scene). The del Toro character allows us to see things the Blunt character would not be privy to.
I don't mind the ending, but this is definitely a case of a film whose latter half lacks a set piece worthy of the two brilliant ones in the first half.
I don't mind the ending, but this is definitely a case of a film whose latter half lacks a set piece worthy of the two brilliant ones in the first half.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
I love the film but don't remember it note for note. What is it about the final act that apparently upsets or disappoints so many people?
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
Yeah, I didn't see it as such a major shift when the third act was kicking in. It also ties in with the scenes with the Mexican police officer nicely.Mr Sausage wrote:The point of view shift was prepared for earlier in the film (the interrogation scene). The del Toro character allows us to see things the Blunt character would not be privy to.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
It's a major reason I'm so ambivalent about a sequel (even before Villenueve departed): I think giving Blunt's character some redemption/revenge would be a more satisfying continuation than pushing the film deeper into drug-war pulp.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
I thought this take on the film was really interesting.
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Re: Sicario (Denis Villeneuve, 2015)
I'd say the night vision tunnel sequence was as great a set piece as anything else in the movie.Mr Sausage wrote:I don't mind the ending, but this is definitely a case of a film whose latter half lacks a set piece worthy of the two brilliant ones in the first half.
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
Soldado trailer. Looks a little more amped-up in terms of the action. Hopefully it's not at the expense of the tension.
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
I'm very surprised by the decision to make the title a very clunky "Sicario 2: Soldado" instead of... just Soldado.
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
I suppose Sicario has this kind of wider popularity they just want to capitalize onto.
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
The title is now literally Hitman 2: Day of the Soldier in English.
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
They could have at least done the whole title in Spanish
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
Dia del soldado does have a ring to it.
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Re: Sicario/Soldado (Denis Villeneuve/Stefano Sollima, 2015/
I agree with knives, "Dia del Soldado" does sound kind of nice. Anyway, I wish they'd get rid of that Sicario mark. Audiences can infer it's a part of this series, surely (even without Emily Blunt)?