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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:10 pm 
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John Hillerman. RIP Rodney


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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Love his roles in Paper Moon...


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:09 am 
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And the laurel and hearty handshake from Blazing Saddles.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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domino harvey wrote:
John Hillerman. RIP Rodney

He was just great as Higgins in Magnum PI


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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Screenwriter Robert Getchell, back in October


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:38 pm 
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David Pendleton, the tremendous programmer for the Harvard Film Archive (and a very nice person): https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/movies ... story.html

(Way too young, a mere youth compared to me).


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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Screenwriter Robert Getchell, back in October


Rest in peace. It's amazing how the most talented people in Hollywood, the screenwriters, can often go their whole lives writing brilliant things, and die totally unknown to the general public and never having, or almost never having, their visions brought faithfully or unadulteratedly to the screen. And they're top industry insiders and often very rich.

A perhaps tasteless question for the forum: I've always wondered if it would be possible for an unconnected layperson like me to access some of the original screenplays I've heard about over the years being so much better than the film that ultimately gets made. Especially Earl Mac Rauch's for Scorsese's awful New York, New York, or Carole Eastman's for The Fortune, or even some of the ones that Altman allegedly ruined, especially for The Company and Popeye. Any info would be really appreciated, thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:04 am 
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Is this a different Liz Smith from the actress? Because that one died last year.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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Is this a different Liz Smith from the actress? Because that one died last year.

Yep, there were two of them:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809131
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809132


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:57 am 
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He clearly meant the gossip columnist.

I don’t think Liz was ever on Howard Stern-but she always provided good material for the show.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:32 am 
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From last Friday... Former Faith No More Singer Chuck Mosley Dead At 57.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:35 am 
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Yes, the gossip columnist-- in the halcyon days before the Internet, I grew up with her telling me all about various celebs' embarrassments and wrongdoings on E!'s the Gossip Show


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:52 pm 
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She was also a regular on the classic, somehow hosted by AJ Benza and a fog of smoke, Hollywood Mysteries and Scandals.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:45 pm 
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Randall Maysin wrote:
Professor Wagstaff wrote:
Screenwriter Robert Getchell, back in October


Rest in peace. It's amazing how the most talented people in Hollywood, the screenwriters, can often go their whole lives writing brilliant things, and die totally unknown to the general public and never having, or almost never having, their visions brought faithfully or unadulteratedly to the screen. And they're top industry insiders and often very rich.

A perhaps tasteless question for the forum: I've always wondered if it would be possible for an unconnected layperson like me to access some of the original screenplays I've heard about over the years being so much better than the film that ultimately gets made. Especially Earl Mac Rauch's for Scorsese's awful New York, New York, or Carole Eastman's for The Fortune, or even some of the ones that Altman allegedly ruined, especially for The Company and Popeye. Any info would be really appreciated, thanks!

I've always wondered this as well. Along with early drafts, there are many unproduced scripts I'd love to read. Paddy Chayefsky's The Habakkuk Conspiracy is my holy grail in this regard. Perhaps it is archived in his collection at The New York Public Library.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:42 pm 
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I've wondered about archives in general. What do you have to do to get inside them? If I can't access them, why the hell not? And why is the material only available in archives. You'd think, particularly for most screenwriters, that it would be better for their legacy to have the material easily available in some form, whether free or not I don't care, as long as the cost isn't prohibitive which it probably would be though. Do archivists just figure that hardly anybody is interested?


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:49 pm 
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Archivists' priority is preservation, not access. And there are significant copyright hurdles regarding duplication and circulation - for starters, unless the screenwriter completely failed to sell the script to anyone, they're unlikely to have any personal say in what happens to it.

Which is why archives generally prefer people to have appropriate research credentials.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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Luis Bacalov, Oscar winner composer.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:22 pm 
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Luis Bacalov, Oscar winner composer.

Oh that's a shame. His work on the original Django is great.


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:37 pm 
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Bacalov was 84. Men live less than women.
I didn't know he was Italian by option. (Still Argentinian too? Probably)


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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 Post subject: Re: Passages
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:19 am 
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The great Ann Wedgeworth has passed away:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Wedgeworth


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 Post subject: Re: Passages
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Malcom Young.


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Folk singer and bon vivant Charles Manson


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