It is currently Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:10 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 62 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:26 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
Location: Greenwich Village
Arrow was asked on Twitter and said they are concentrating on the boxset for now and we'll have to see further down the line. Whatever that means.


Top
 Profile  
 

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:28 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am
Location: SLC, UT
It means they want people to buy this boxset either way.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:41 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
Location: Greenwich Village
That they want people to buy the boxset even if they dislike some of the films is more like it.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:34 pm 

Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:45 am
swo17 wrote:
Have any of their UK-only releases been region free?


EDIT:

A relatively small number of titles are region-free, for example: the Yoshida box, Too Late for Tears and Woman On the Run.


Last edited by Noiradelic on Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:38 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm
Not major studio titles. Some of the Eastern European Academy releases were, as were Woman on the Run/Too Late for Tears but those were a weird case where Arrow just used the same exact discs as the Flicker Alley US release.

It's possible something can fall through the cracks, and it's possible there's weird exceptions to the rules, but just assume these or any Arrow or MoC release is Region B until we get the first reviews that might prove otherwise.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:52 pm 
Dot Com Dom
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
I think one of the positive virtues of this assortment of noir titles, which admittedly is a bit random other than their genre connection and the studio rights, is that even the weakest is interesting. The Big Combo is total “Noir as style” bolstering, and while some of its lofty reputation is due to its public domain status and subsequent omnipresence, there's so much excess here to enjoy-- I can't remember which Film Noir doc has Lewis talking about shooting a provocative scene from the shoulders up, but it's such a hoot that I hope there's a way to include it; the Dark Mirror is an amusing diversion with some still impressive special effects in presenting Olivia De Havilland as twins; Force of Evil is a serviceable programmer to me but ranks highly among others here as one of the best examples of the genre and I look forward to revisiting it to see if it’s aged into higher esteem for me; and, as we’ve been discussing in the Fritz Lang thread, Secret Beyond the Door doesn’t really work, but in-context with the string of psychology-exploiting noirs of this period, it has some interest, and fans of Chabrol may get mileage out of his love for the film as exhibited throughout his oeuvre, sometimes explicitly. And those extras for all the films! This looks like a set I want to spend a week with, which is a luxury in these days, but well-worth it I think. I give Arrow a lot of guff for exalting time and energy on a lot of genre titles that don’t always merit their slavish devotion (YMMV obv), but such steadfastness to exhaustive supplements pays off in releases like this.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:53 am 

Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:45 am
Ribs wrote:
Not major studio titles. Some of the Eastern European Academy releases were, as were Woman on the Run/Too Late for Tears but those were a weird case where Arrow just used the same exact discs as the Flicker Alley US release.

It's possible something can fall through the cracks, and it's possible there's weird exceptions to the rules

Swo didn't specify major studio titles. Obviously with an exception or two major studio titles aren't.
This page lists 21 titles not released by Arrow US that are region free/ABC:
http://www.thenerdmentality.com/movies/ ... heck-list/

I read elsewhere that Goto, Isle of Love is too. Only studio title listed here is Obsession. Might be a good idea to get corroboration that these titles are region free before ordering.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:57 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:20 pm
Location: Worthing
Ribs wrote:
Not major studio titles. Some of the Eastern European Academy releases were, as were Woman on the Run/Too Late for Tears but those were a weird case where Arrow just used the same exact discs as the Flicker Alley US release.

Both Arrow and Flicker Alley used the same source, and mutually agreed that it would be far easier and cheaper to pool their resources and author just the one disc. While they're technically compatible with Region A and B players, I believe that you get the Flicker Alley ident in a Region A player and the Arrow one in Region B. The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Miss Osbourne and La Grande Bouffe do something similar, although in that case it's to do with Arrow Academy branding in the UK and Arrow Video branding in the US.

As for the Czech and Polish releases, rightsholders there have never been fussed about region-locking. Which is why the overwhelming majority of Second Run's catalogue is region-free - it's not because they have some amazingly enlightened and visionary policy about region-coding (I still see people making bizarre claims like this!), it's because they don't license major studio titles. Indeed, their catalogue is usually so obscure and unlikely to be released anywhere else that the rightsholders doubtless appreciate that it wouldn't remotely be in their interest to insist on region-locking.

Quote:
It's possible something can fall through the cracks, and it's possible there's weird exceptions to the rules, but just assume these or any Arrow or MoC release is Region B until we get the first reviews that might prove otherwise.

I seriously don't know why people are still speculating about the noir box. The chances of it being anything other than locked to Region B are as close to zero as makes no difference.

Noiradelic wrote:
I read elsewhere that Goto, Isle of Love is too.

Goto has always been region-locked - and I co-produced that disc, so I'm afraid this is gospel. But the same restoration is available in Region A via Olive.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:59 am 

Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:45 am
MichaelB wrote:
Ribs wrote:
It's possible something can fall through the cracks, and it's possible there's weird exceptions to the rules, but just assume these or any Arrow or MoC release is Region B until we get the first reviews that might prove otherwise.

I seriously don't know why people are still speculating about the noir box. The chances of it being anything other than locked to Region B are as close to zero as makes no difference.

I was just replying to Swo. I never entertained the thought the set would be region-free for a second. Don't believe Ribs was suggesting that either; think he was just avoiding stating absolutes.

But the details on Arrow and region coding you've provided are very informative nevertheless.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:49 pm 

Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:43 am
Force of Evil and Big Combo make this very exciting to me. I don't really know the other two.

Big Combo had an absurd and sadistic torture scene involving using some kind of loud speakers to hurt the insides of Cornell Wilde's ears. And had some amazing cinematography.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:45 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm
Now in stock at the Arrow store!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:53 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 pm
Location: Brandywine River
M Sanderson wrote:
Force of Evil and Big Combo make this very exciting to me. I don't really know the other two.

Big Combo had an absurd and sadistic torture scene involving using some kind of loud speakers to hurt the insides of Cornell Wilde's ears. And had some amazing cinematography.

It was Brian Donlevy's ears I think. First example of techno-torture?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:19 pm 

Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:31 am
Location: Somerset, England
NABOB OF NOWHERE wrote:
M Sanderson wrote:
Force of Evil and Big Combo make this very exciting to me. I don't really know the other two.

Big Combo had an absurd and sadistic torture scene involving using some kind of loud speakers to hurt the insides of Cornell Wilde's ears. And had some amazing cinematography.

It was Brian Donlevy's ears I think. First example of techno-torture?

Donlevy's
[Reveal] Spoiler:
hearing-aid, but used to torture Wilde (mostly).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:06 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm
Beaver on The Dark Mirror & The Big Combo


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:32 pm 
Dot Com Dom
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
WTF is up with that Arrow aspect ratio for Dark Mirror


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:57 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:25 am
Looks to me like the transfer was originally done at 1.43:1 (for whatever reason) and the other releases squashed the image back to 1.33:1. Making the Arrow superior but ideally they could have cropped to 1.37:1.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:40 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:01 pm
Location: WellyYeller
Suggesting, then that the 1.43 is probably a zoomed capture from the original aperture. Which is perhaps why they didn't re-size it to 1.37? Maybe?? I have the Koch but I havent' gottena roaund to looking at it again.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:44 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:25 am
There are a few rounded corners though, which indicates too much was probably scanned, rather than too little.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:41 am 

Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:47 pm
MichaelB wrote:
I seriously don't know why people are still speculating about the noir box. The chances of it being anything other than locked to Region B are as close to zero as makes no difference.

Remembering this conversation, I looked on the bottom of the box for a region symbol and it turns out it's region free!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:42 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 9:37 am
Between this and Tree of Wooden Clogs color timing being fixed, it would be nice if Arrow promoted these great developments.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:59 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm
This was actually apparent from the initial packshots, where you could see the discs were labelled as such, but I didn’t mention it in the possible event they weren’t meant to be.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:33 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:10 am
Location: Atlanta
Is it now sold out for good from their store or they plan to add more stock?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:49 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am
Location: SLC, UT
Amazon UK still has it in stock. There has been speculation since this was announced that it wouldn't last long. Order from somewhere now if you don't want to miss out.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:24 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm
The region-free news coming out at the same time that you could order it with double points upon release probably was a combination of factors that really accelerated this title shifting.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:06 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:59 am
Location: San Francisco
Sigh. Given that it is nearly sold out and it provides a massive improvement on all of the titles in the box, I finally pulled the trigger on it rather than wait for a sale. Not sure how many linear feet of shelf space I've got in transit from Arrow at this point. They are having a hell of a year.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 62 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group




This site is not affiliated with The Criterion Collection