49 The Passenger

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Re: The Passenger (Antonioni, 1975)

#126 Post by kinjitsu » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:20 pm

hasnamus wrote:Any help would be very appreciated. Does anybody know the artist and title of the song in the last credits shot?

The song is Canco de Lladre (Song of the Thief), a Catalan folksong arranged for guitar by Spanish composer Miguel Llobet (1878-1938). No idea about guitarist.

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Re: The Passenger (Antonioni, 1975)

#127 Post by hasnamus » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:00 pm

kinjitsu wrote:The song is Canco de Lladre (Song of the Thief), a Catalan folksong arranged for guitar by Spanish composer Miguel Llobet (1878-1938). No idea about guitarist.

Mille Grazie!

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Re: The Passenger (Antonioni, 1975)

#128 Post by George Drooly » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:25 pm

As far as I can tell, this is the only available Blu of this film:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/El-Report ... ay/110051/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's well priced, but the Amazon reviews regarding picture quality are very harsh. Anyone have this disc? Or know if it (and Zabriskie) is EVER getting a US release

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Re: The Passenger (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1975)

#129 Post by Pepsi » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:43 pm

From Blu-ray.com:

Codec: MPEG-4 AVC
Resolution: 1080p (upconverted)

You probably get the same image upscaling your DVD with your Blu-ray player!

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Re: The Passenger (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1975)

#130 Post by George Drooly » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:24 pm

Thanks, sounds like I'll be waiting

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Re: The Passenger (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1975)

#131 Post by feihong » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:45 pm

I bought the disc. It is not worth it. The dvd legitimately looks better.

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Re: The Passenger (Antonioni, 1975)

#132 Post by ellipsis7 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:07 am

George Drooly wrote:As far as I can tell, this is the only available Blu of this film:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/El-Report ... ay/110051/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's well priced, but the Amazon reviews regarding picture quality are very harsh. Anyone have this disc? Or know if it (and Zabriskie) is EVER getting a US release
One lives in hope that ZABRISKIE POINT is included in the Criterion deal with Warner Bros, certainly there was a lovely new HD resto DCP when it was rereleased theatrically hereabouts in 2014... THE PASSENGER is a different kettle of fish, the current DVD coming from Sony after several years in limbo when the rights were owned by Jack Nicholson...

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Re: Indicator

#133 Post by Randall Maysin » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:39 am

I suppose it's a shame that Indicator couldn't or wouldn't replace or re-do the Nicholson and screenwriter commentaries on The Passenger? I've heard they're not very good at all.

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Re: Indicator

#134 Post by Big Ben » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:44 am

The Passenger? That's pretty amazing. I've been waiting to see that on Blu for a long time and with extras to boot. I think Nicholson himself owns the rights though? MGM gave them to him in exchange for something if I'm remembering correctly. Or am I mistaken?

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Re: Indicator

#135 Post by Pepsi » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:52 pm

THE PASSENGER

There's listed a third commentary: Audio commentary with film historian Adrian Martin.
Also it's now Limited Edition of 5,000 copies, instead of 3,000 earlier. So someone other than I, have also pre-ordered this.

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Re: Indicator

#136 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:36 pm

I was already getting it, but hooray for Indicator enlisting the new King of Commentaries!

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Re: Indicator

#137 Post by Rayon Vert » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:02 pm

Pepsi wrote:So someone other than I, have also pre-ordered this.
That was me.

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Re: Indicator

#138 Post by jegharfangetmigenmyg » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:31 am

Any info on the Passenger "remaster"?

I'd say this is definitely an upper-tier Antonioni title. I have been waiting for this for so long; the R2UK Sony dvd that I own is very outdated, badly compressed and interlaced. I actually tried giving it a spin last year, but my Oppo couldn't manage upscaling it to look just somewhat passable, so I am looking forward to finally being able to revisit the film again. I have been lucky to see it on 35mm, and that closing shot, one of the best ones ever, I just don't want to see it in crappy dvd resolution. Given Indicator's history, this should look great, even though it will be sourced from an older master, but it would be nice to have some kind of confirmation. Definitely not sitting on my hands waiting for Criterion to release it.

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Re: Indicator

#139 Post by MichaelB » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:16 am

On the basis of what I've seen so far - and I understand the final encode will advance on this - I reckon people are going to be pleasantly surprised.

Some people have been spooked by the Spanish BD looking so terrible, but in no way does that reflect what Sony's master actually looks like. And Powerhouse's encoding policy, in line with pretty much everything that David Mackenzie works on, is to give the main feature maximum room to breathe while compressing the extras much more (especially modern talking-heads pieces shot against static backgrounds). Handily, in this particular case three of the major extras are commentaries so don't take up much additional disc space at all.

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Re: Indicator

#140 Post by jegharfangetmigenmyg » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:05 am

Thanks for the update, Michael. Sounds promising indeed. I have 8 Indicator-titles, all them great, Criterion-level releases. The only reason why I don't have more is that too many of the films themselves aren't quite up to scratch/not my cup of tea, but I'm sure that this Passenger release will become an instant favorite of mine.

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Re: Indicator

#141 Post by Apperson » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:30 pm

Caps-a-holic on The Passenger.

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Re: Indicator

#142 Post by Pepsi » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm

It' sure much sharper than the DVD, but I have a feeling that the color timing is made for tube television. Too bright, bad black levels, and an overall dull / flat feeling. In those days they made low contrasted copies for transfering the film for TV use.

Let's see it in motion when I get it in a few weeks. Still happy to have it.
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Re: Indicator

#143 Post by Drucker » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:58 pm

I re-watched the film right before this announcement and wasn't too into it, but good god I think it looks amazing, and comparable to the texture of the last few 1970s films I've seen theatrically in 35mm over the last few months. Though the upgrade is seemingly less pronounced than major restorations, I think it makes a huge difference.

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Re: 49 The Passenger

#144 Post by Craig Wallace » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:56 am

There is a scene in the 1982 MGM/UA vhs video of Antonioni's The Passenger that is missing from the Sony DVD and Indicator's blu-ray. The video is missing much of David Locke's visit to his home in London and the scene at the lemon grove in Spain. However, it does include a scene in which Locke asks passers-by on a street in Barcelona if they can identify the whereabouts of the places "Parque Comunal" and "Umbraculo" that are noted in Robertson's diary.

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Re: 49 The Passenger

#145 Post by M Sanderson » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 am

Opinion on the transfer seems to range from looking amazing, to looking OK. To me, it looks like a strong encode of a dated master. I feel there are definitely more nuances to be teased out. Light and shade seemed a tad murky - like watching through sunglasses. An essential film, and obviously for it to look better, a fresh scan is needed.

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Re: 49 The Passenger

#146 Post by tenia » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:02 am

It definitely is an older master, though it's not one of the bad ones. I've seen better in terms of older masters, but this one stille is serviceable. Still, it's clearly open to improvement, and a new restoration would certainly gives the movie a more organic aspect.

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Re: 49 The Passenger

#147 Post by david hare » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:05 pm

Unless someone goes back to original elements and rescans the Eastman neg at 4K that won't happen. I am very happy with this, and it certrainly uprezzes in a 4K/HDR setup very well.

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Re: 49 The Passenger

#148 Post by _shadow_ » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:57 am

A new restoration would undoubtedly take those white tables right down into the yellow-green zone that we are being asked to understand was the true look of all movies back then, along with flattened contrast and blues moving to teal...

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Re: 49 The Passenger

#149 Post by tenia » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:20 am

The movie would probably be restored by Sony and AFAIK, they're not really known to output restorations with debatable color timings.

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Re: 49 The Passenger

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