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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:14 am 
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I purchased the recent Blu-ray a few weeks ago and watched it for the first time in quite awhile. I'm a moderate fan (though watching it again has kind of re-sparked my interest) but I have always been fascinated by how nakedly it shows what they were going through and how the experiences of that time were applied into their new music and the re-birth of their bond as a band and as people to each other and those within their circle. The St. Anger album has it's obvious problems but I recognize that the songs had much deeper lyrical content than a lot of what had been done previously.

Not sure how much cache it holds here (don't know how many genuine metalheads we have here though I'm not one myself, let alone Metallica fans), but I'm basically posting this because I'm curious if it holds up for anyone else like it did me.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:46 am 

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Oh yeah, I think this is an excellent movie. (Really, I'm a fan of all of the films Bruce Sinofsky and Joe Berlinger collaborated on.) I'm not a Metallica fan myself, though I do hold a certain respect for their music, but this movie is well done to the point that my general non-fandom of the band is moot.

I had the good fortune of attending a promotional screening in London in 2004 just before its theatrical release, and Berlinger was on hand for a Q&A afterward. In reference to Lars Ulrich's one big, angry scene in the movie, where he gets up in his bandmembers' faces and yells, Berlinger admitted that when he was filming that, part of him felt like a kid watching his parents fight, and part of him was REALLY EXCITED that he was getting what would be such a great scene for the movie. Which it is, of course. But I always thought that that was funny.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:15 am 
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I'd go as far to say that unless you really don't like their music and/or thought less of Ulrich after the whole Napster debacle, it would be something I would suggest to fans of documentaries even if they are rather secular when it comes to Heavy Metal and Metallica in particular. A creative entity in crisis is always fascinating to watch. That's certainly the case here, even if there are some rather "Spinal Tap comes to life moments" (like when Ulrich and Kirk Hammett see Jason Newsted's new band and lament on their future, or the infamous art gallery scene). At certain points throughout I felt bad for all of them, but the strongest moment to me is seeing their producer Bob Rock's thousand-yard stare during one of the therapy sessions when something is said second-hand that indicates he's thought of more as someone on the business end than the creative.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 6:27 am 
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The deleted scenes on the 2nd disc are a treat, too. The directors said they had 1,600 hours of footage shot, and knowing that makes me appreciate what was done here more because it must have been difficult getting it into shape. Especially when at one point the band's record company wanted a reality show out of it. Kind of glad that didn't happen, though it would have likely meant more footage. Keeping it as a feature film retains an integrity that something seen as following the coattails of The Osbournes would have not.

The scene where Berlinger and Sinofsky come out from behind the camera is one I like a lot, especially where the idea of there not being a film is brought up. For something that on the surface seems like a safe subject for a documentary (especially the commercial value it would have compared to their other work), I got the impression they took a lot of chances with that being the biggest one. To me it seems obvious that's not what they wanted ultimately (they show the band an assembly of their footage in one of the deleted scenes, something they'd never done before along with appearing on camera, in hopes to convince them and particularly James Hetfield of their sincerity in what their intentions were) but to be the ones to bring it up themselves seemed like a brave choice.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:16 am 
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This is on Netflix now, coupled with the piece Berlinger did later around the time of Through The Never which is a special feature on the Blu-ray edition.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:17 am 
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James Hetfield will appear in Joe Berlinger's upcoming Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile, marking his acting debut. I wonder if this is a first, for a documentarian to later cast someone who was a subject of an earlier film in a dramatic role.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:35 am 

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A weird one off the top of my head is that Werner Herzog cast physicist Lawrence Krauss in a dramatic role for Salt and Fire after he appeared in the doc Lo and Behold, Reveries of the Connected World. There's got to be more well known examples out there.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:50 am 
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Scorsese cast his parents in Goodfellas after making Italianamerican about them


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:22 am 
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matrixschmatrix wrote:
Scorsese cast his parents in Goodfellas after making Italianamerican about them

Actually, Scorsese's parents were cast in most of his films...and also appeared in a number of other New York-based films such as Godfather III, Wise Guys, and Moonstruck. But are you are correct that most of these screen appearances happened after Scorsese's 1974 documentary.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:48 pm 
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And they're his parents. Seems like everyone who was ever able to, has put their own folks in small roles in their movies.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:15 pm 
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King of Kong guy has a cameo in Horrible Bosses.


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