Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

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Big Ben
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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#26 Post by Big Ben » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:48 pm

There's also the possibility that said being isn't exactly entirely human. The trailer makes the point that Loomis unloaded on him with his revolver (And that he survived falling off a balcony afterward!).

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#27 Post by Luke M » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:02 pm

Just wanted to comment on trend of internet trailers having a mini trailer before the actual trailer in the same video: can we not?

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#28 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:05 pm

Luke M wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:02 pm
Comment. Trend. Mini-Trailer. Can. We. Not! Luke M's post about the Halloween trailer is here!
Just wanted to comment on trend of internet trailers having a mini trailer before the actual trailer in the same video: can we not?
Fixed your comment so busy people can enjoy it now

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#29 Post by knives » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:09 pm

I agree, I just meant I thought it was unintentionally silly to have the young psychologist treat the mask like a magic totem in that manner.

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#30 Post by Murdoch » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:06 pm

Myers was never an interesting villain and I think the biggest fault of the sequels (outside 3 of course) is continuing with him as the central figure. There's only so much you can do with someone like that where there's no larger concept to play around with, much like how Friday the 13th wasn't interesting until it veered into self-parody.

All this talk of 80s slashers reminded of the terrible Final Exam, which is still the only example I can think of where the killer is a random nobody whose face is never hidden and his motivation is never explained. In fact, he's such a non-character that he doesn't really appear until the last third of the film (outside of the obligatory opening kill scene)! But that movie also spent 2/3 of its running time as a college sex comedy where the audience was left to wonder if the opening was just a non sequitur to capitalize on the slasher craze.

I do wonder if this reboot will play up Myers' inexplicable super-human strength and invincibility since it's been a characteristic since one (although much more downplayed in Carpenter's film than the others).

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#31 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:10 pm

As the unfortunate self-inflicted viewer of well over a hundred 80s slashers, I regret to inform you that a great number of them have no problem showing you the assailant. I mean, most of these use "escaped mental patient" et al as motivator, so not exactly no motivation, but close enough. Final Exam is staggeringly awful though, on that we can agree

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#32 Post by Luke M » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:26 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Luke M wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:02 pm
Comment. Trend. Mini-Trailer. Can. We. Not! Luke M's post about the Halloween trailer is here!
Just wanted to comment on trend of internet trailers having a mini trailer before the actual trailer in the same video: can we not?
Fixed your comment so busy people can enjoy it now
Well done, sir

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#33 Post by Murdoch » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:01 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:10 pm
As the unfortunate self-inflicted viewer of well over a hundred 80s slashers, I regret to inform you that a great number of them have no problem showing you the assailant. I mean, most of these use "escaped mental patient" et al as motivator, so not exactly no motivation, but close enough. Final Exam is staggeringly awful though, on that we can agree
I don't even recall getting the cliche escaped mental patient explanation, I think he's just a completely random person who shows up for no explicable reason and starts killing everyone!

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#34 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:41 pm

It took me a while to find since search function is broken, but turns out I actually agreed with you 100%:
domino harvey wrote:Final Exam (Jimmy Huston 1981) This early slasher at least tries to set itself apart from the more extreme post-Halloween ripoffs by devoting time to character development. A lot of time. Like, 2/3 of the movie is just the college kids with almost no threat of violence lurking in the corners. This would be great if any of the characters were the least bit interesting. Funnily enough, the film goes through such strains to make the victims into characters that it ignores the killer, who is the blankest cipher I've ever seen in one of these films. No name, no motive, no history, not even a good look at him (outside of his very bad haircut)!

While biding my time through the extended antics of the characters, another venue of value for these sorts of films occurred to me. I remember Henri Langlois saying in the Phantom documentary that he'd heard an interior design college had the world's largest collection of amateur porn because it provided the best insight into the living spaces of average people. In that same spirit, these slasher films, with their small budgets and minuscule resources, give a neat and extensive peak into the everyday fashion trends during filming, and I enjoyed taking in the various choices the cast made, all no doubt steeped in period authenticity. It's a weird thing to praise, but at least it helped me pass the time.

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#35 Post by Murdoch » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:18 pm

I actually watched it just last month after Prime uploaded a ton of slashers to its streaming service so it's fresh in my memory (for better or worse!). I did find myself viewing it in the same time capsule approach as you, if only to make the script's attempt at Animal House more bearable. Bad Haircut was the most interesting part of it for me, largely because of how disinterested the movie is in giving him any reason to be there!

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#36 Post by Mr Sausage » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:59 am

New trailer. Looks interesting, especially how Michael isn't stalking empty streets but walking among hoards of trick or treaters.

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#37 Post by Big Ben » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:13 am

All of the reviews I've seen coming out of TIFF have been positive with at least one saying it's the best sequel out of all the many ones that exist. Admittedly that isn't raising much of a bar but the impressions I read insist it's actually very good for what it is.

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#38 Post by Aunt Peg » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:29 am

The review in The Guardian appears to be the exception so far.

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#39 Post by JamesF » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:27 am

A.A. Dowd also wasn't keen.

I've been pretty indifferent to this given, as Dowd mentions, we've basically gone through this all already with Halloween: H20.

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#40 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:56 pm

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Re: Halloween (David Gordon Green, 2018)

#41 Post by Big Ben » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:23 pm

I think it'll be interesting to recontextualize this new Halloween in this current political climate (Trauma, Women as victims etc.). Although Fox News is being Fox News I feel the paranoia element is certainly a topic for discussion. Although an undying evil that stalks you is a far more tangible reason to carry a gun than illusory senses of superiority through gun identity.

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