34 Andrei Rublev

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RobertB
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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#451 Post by RobertB » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:37 pm

Caps are up on caps-a-holic. Looked worryingly contrast boosted so I did a random zoom. I want the extras, but the picture isn't an improvement to the Russian BD. Too much manipulation has meant loss of information. https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=3&x=64 ... 0&i=9&go=1

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#452 Post by tenia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:43 pm

I'm wondering instead if the russian disc has a gamma issue.

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#453 Post by RobertB » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:03 pm

At least it has pixels. Where Criterion has gray squares. I'm holding on to my Russian disc.

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#454 Post by _shadow_ » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:34 pm

All the time it took to upgrade the DVD, and it's a compression fail. Really not good up close, especially since the Russian BD is there for comparison.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=3&x=50 ... 0&i=0&go=1

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#455 Post by senseabove » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:08 pm

RobertB wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:03 pm
At least it has pixels. Where Criterion has gray squares. I'm holding on to my Russian disc.
What's the best source for getting Russian BDs shipped to the US?


EDIT: whoops, quoted the wrong post

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#456 Post by jsteffe » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:47 pm

senseabove wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:08 pm

What's the best source for getting Russian BDs shipped to the US?
The last I checked, the Russian Blu-ray in question is out of print and has been for some time. In any case, because of Russian restrictions on exporting DVDs/Blu-rays, it's difficult to order them online from Russian sources such as Ozon. Some of the vendors sell bootlegs.

Personally, I'm happy with the Criterion edition. I've long felt that the image was too light on the Russian Blu-ray & I think Tenia may be right that it's a problem with the gamma levels. The Criterion looks fine in playback, even if the encoding doesn't look perfect when you blow up still frames.

EDIT: The other thing I should add is that the Russian Digital Elements/Mosfilm Blu-ray has fairly sparse subtitles. It could potentially make for a frustrating viewing experience if you do not understand spoken Russian. The Criterion is clearly superior in that respect. Everything considered, including the longer cut of the film now in HD, you can make a strong case for the Criterion edition as definitive for some time to come.
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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#457 Post by senseabove » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:01 am

I was asking more in general, not specifically for Rublev. I've a Russian-speaking friend who said he's not found a good way to import, and all I could suggest was a forwarding service. But thanks for the reply!

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#458 Post by RobertB » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:23 pm

My experience is the same as jsteffe's. I bought my Rublev when it was still in print, but I couldn't find anybody selling it from Russia. I checked Amazon many times until I found a seller who had it.

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#459 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 pm

The Criterion screencaps look fine when viewed at 100% (rather than zooming in beyond that), so I'm not sure I'd be that quick to dismiss it.

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Re: 34 Andrei Rublev

#460 Post by bugsy_pal » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:40 pm

You know, it looks to me from those caps-a-holic screenshots like the Criterion and Russian discs are exactly the same transfer (with the obvious framing difference) - I can see the same artefacts on both versions. I think the Criterion makes them a bit more obvious because they've bumped up the contrast a bit.

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