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Re: Late Night Television

#326 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:17 am

I suppose we all get the Liza Minnellis that our generations deserve.

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#327 Post by domino harvey » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:34 pm

Turns out Matthew McConaughey was/is a big Exit 57 fan (!), and got Colbert to do one of the skits with him

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#328 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:12 pm

David Letterman to host a six episode hourlong interview show for Netflix
“I feel excited and lucky to be working on this project for Netflix,” Letterman said. “Here’s what I have learned, if you retire to spend more time with your family, check with your family first. Thanks for watching, drive safely.”

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#329 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:12 am

Speaking of Letterman, he was on The Howard Stern Show today for the first time in years, and the interview was lengthy and candid. Total surprise to me and an absolute pleasure to listen to.

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#332 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:01 pm

I hope it includes musical performances - I remember the weeks when I was in high school and The White Stripes and The Strokes would guest all week very fondly and can never find decent video of those performances

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#333 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Glad we'll finally be able to see the full original version of the first Clive Clemmons' Inappropriate Response Channel "clip". And all those UCB skits!

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#334 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:11 pm

I hope something can be done with Letterman's archive. AFAIK Worldwide Pants just owns the CBS archive, and his Late Night shows are still with NBC.


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#336 Post by BenoitRouilly » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:15 pm

Speaking of Conan, what about his breaking of the Late Show sacred format of American television ? A Late Show without the desk and without the costume ! Personnally I'm tired of seeing all Late Show hosts, on every network and cable, mimic the same (Carson) pattern : desk + couch + mugs + costume + monologue + fake backdrop + band + live audience (applauding on cue) + funny looking comedian... As if it was impossible to make TV any otherwise, that audience would never watch something different. It's creatively very limiting and plagiarism.

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#337 Post by Big Ben » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:57 pm

I agree it's not very creative but what else would you do? What set up would you do? What would you change? This format is used all over the world too. They do it in places like Europe, Brazil, etc. It's just how it's done. It's most certainly not plagiarism.

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#338 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:04 pm

I like Graham Norton's format. All guests out at the same time, in questionable levels of inebriation.

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#339 Post by Fiery Angel » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:16 pm

Which James Corden is "plagiarizing"!

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#340 Post by BenoitRouilly » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:21 pm

Yeah that's another gimmick I forgot in my list : one guest after another (very limited interactions between guests, if ever)

The Graham Norton's show and some shows in France, invite several guests at the same time (around a table, or on chairs without desk) so they interact, are compared, are asked to comment eachothers, they share their similar experiences.

In France we don't really have a "Late Night" show time on TV, but many hosts are copying the Late Show (especially The Daily Show) on access prime time (for maybe 10 years now) but they only copy the spirit, not the format. Their format is very different from Carson and from eachother.

There was a scandal a couple years ago about Arthur copycatting the opening credits of Craig Fergusson's Late Show (and later invited him on his show in Paris), even tho, his show [EDIT: somewhat] different technically.

Craig Fergusson tried once to change the format too (because of the strike?) : he had his guest sat on an armchair in front of his armchair in the middle of the set (no desk) and they chatted for an hour. That was cool.

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#341 Post by BenoitRouilly » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:22 pm

Video examples of famous French Talk Shows :

Le Petit Journal (Canal +) Weekly 8pm (Cancelled) inspired by The Daily Show

Quotidien (TMC) Weekly 7pm Spin off of Le Petit Journal

Le Gros Journal (Canal +) 7pm (30min) (Cancelled)

Clique Dimanche (Canal +) Weekly Sunday 3pm Spin off of Le Gros Journal

Ce soir avec Arthur (Comedie) American Late Night set (Cancelled) inspired by Craig Ferguson

On n'est pas couché (France 2) : weekly Saturday 11pm (2 to 3h long show!) 1 host, 3 sidekicks (comedians or critics), 4 guests at once, 2 armchairs facing eachother

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#342 Post by Polybius » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:40 am

BenoitRouilly wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:21 pm
Craig Fergusson tried once to change the format too (because of the strike?) : he had his guest sat on an armchair in front of his armchair in the middle of the set (no desk) and they chatted for an hour. That was cool.
Dick Cavett did that in the late '70's, as well. It's an interesting format if you have a good guest and host.

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#343 Post by domino harvey » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:46 am

In Michael Ian Black's tryout for the hosting job Ferguson eventually landed, he spent the entire episode reclined while he and his guests gave blood on stage. No matter how fond people are of Ferguson, a Michael Ian Black show would have no doubt been similarly inspired on a regular basis and thus the best man did not win

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#344 Post by BenoitRouilly » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:56 am

I saw a couple of episodes of Dick Cavett's interviews. Was it a successful show?
So this is an existing format on American TV, why nobody copies him?

Is it available online this Michael Ian Black' clip? Sounds interesting.

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#345 Post by domino harvey » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:12 pm

I saw it live, so I'm not sure if it's circulating online. I never forgot it, though. Since the job was replacing Craig Kilborn, I think Black's smart smarminess was such a natural choice even without the great gimmick in his test balloon, but oh well

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#346 Post by BenoitRouilly » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:23 pm

Wow you're lucky! Was it before the time when people tape everything with their smartphone and put it online? ;)
I don't know Michael Ian Black at all.
But I like what Ferguson did to the Late Show format, and his humour, and his improv too. He was good sport when Arthur plagiarised his intro, he invited him on his show and they did a bit together. He also dropped all charges against Arthur for copyright infringement.

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#347 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:34 pm

It's perhaps a belabored point by now, but I feel like podcasts have not only taken over that spot late night used to occupy, at least from the perspective of a need for funny and/or insightful dialogue. For the younger generations I can see them gravitating towards that more than these traditions we had for previous generations.

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#348 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:27 pm

BenoitRouilly wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:56 am
I saw a couple of episodes of Dick Cavett's interviews. Was it a successful show?
So this is an existing format on American TV, why nobody copies him?
Tom Snyder used a more or less identical format on his various shows, with the occasional addition of a call-in component so viewers could ask their own questions. His last series followed Letterman's on CBS; CBS supposedly hated it and wanted to replace Snyder, but Letterman's contract gave him control of the time slot after his own show. Ferguson's show (which was in the same time slot) was closer to a conventional talk-show format, but I think there was still a lot of Snyder's show in its DNA.

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