Criterion and StudioCanal

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1201 Post by dwk » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:51 pm

I think you are misreading the post. The first part is about Masculin Feminin and Made in USA
Both of them are with Criterion, they'll most likely release them on Blu-ray later. I don't think the North American rights to the 2 films are with Studio Canal.
and this is in response to a question if Kino had any other Godard films:
We do not have anymore Godard titles in the SC deal. Pierrot le fou was taken by another label.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1202 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:02 pm

If these are with CC it'll be interesting to see if Army of Shadows, Le Cercle Rouge and Pierrot le Fou have their older editions get a re-release or they release with new scans.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1203 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:29 pm

Well this is interesting...
KL Insider when someone suggested Arrow or Cohen could be the other companies
I did not say that. We don't want to confirm a title for another label, the other label could be Criterion.

Lionsgate had carte blanche, they kept whatever they wanted to keep. Kino, Criterion and Shout were the first three labels to get deals done, since then other have come in and picked up some titles, who they are, I don't know, but those are two good guesses.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1204 Post by domino harvey » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:44 pm

Masculin feminin and 2 or 3 Things never left Criterion, they were part of a different rights deal

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1205 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:19 pm

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't StudioCanal own the rights to the BRD Trilogy?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1206 Post by jwd5275 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:06 pm

No

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1207 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:45 pm

Someone asked KL Insider if they had any Bresson or Saura titles, or if they had gotten Forbidden Games, and they responded saying
No Bresson or Saura.

Forbidden Games is with another label.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1208 Post by domino harvey » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:47 pm

If Cohen is one of the StudioCanal licensees as rumored, that sounds right up their alley

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1209 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:49 pm

For Bresson or for Forbidden Games?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1210 Post by domino harvey » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:50 pm

The latter, but can’t say I’d blink at the former either

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1211 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:01 pm

Maybe for Forbidden Games (though I hope not since the DVD cover art looks really nice) but I do recall Janus posting a pic from 'Diary of a Country' on their twitter page. Maybe it's their way of telling us that they got the rights to it back?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1212 Post by KJones77 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:16 pm

So with Fassbinder's Lola coming back via the BRD trilogy upgrade, that should be confirmation that Criterion has a new StudioCanal deal, right?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1213 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:20 pm

I don't know why you needed even more confirmation even though KL Insider already confirmed a while ago that Criterion did indeed have a deal with them.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1214 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:23 pm

For whatever reason people were skeptical

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1215 Post by albucat » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:26 pm

Just wondering if I should sell my blu-ray of The Third Man soon....

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1216 Post by Drucker » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:28 pm

Depends. The 4k restoration has some dialogue imperfections that have been detailed elsewhere on the forum. If that doesn't bother you, the 4k resto is already available via a Studio Canal BD in the UK for like 10 pounds if you're region B capable.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1217 Post by kcota17 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:30 pm

Its Region Free

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1218 Post by KJones77 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:31 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:20 pm
I don't know why you needed even more confirmation even though KL Insider already confirmed a while ago that Criterion did indeed have a deal with them.
Didn't they vaguely call them an "arthouse label"? It was obviously most likely Criterion, but this is just a 100% confirmation now.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1219 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:32 pm

albucat wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:26 pm
Just wondering if I should sell my blu-ray of The Third Man soon....
I wouldn't yet. The KL Insider has said that Lionsgate will hold on to the films that they have released. Although I'm skeptical of that being fact, I guess there is an outside chance that that is the case.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1220 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 pm

KJones77 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:31 pm

Didn't they vaguely call them an "arthouse label"? It was obviously most likely Criterion, but this is just a 100% confirmation now.
No, they straight up name-dropped Criterion.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1221 Post by KJones77 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:42 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 pm
KJones77 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:31 pm

Didn't they vaguely call them an "arthouse label"? It was obviously most likely Criterion, but this is just a 100% confirmation now.
No, they straight up name-dropped Criterion.
Ah I see that one here at the top of the page. Must've missed it, so yeah, this was already confirmed.

My bad, then.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1222 Post by DRW.mov » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:56 pm

KJones77 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:16 pm
So with Fassbinder's Lola coming back via the BRD trilogy upgrade, that should be confirmation that Criterion has a new StudioCanal deal, right?
Pretty sure the BRD titles are all held by the RWF Foundation, no? The reason the set went out of print initially was because Wellspring, who Criterion had initially licensed from, had lost them. None of them play on the Criterion Channel, nor on Filmstruck, with Studio Canal logos or branding. Lola is released by SC in the UK but that’s the only connection I can see. Does not mean they own it in the US as well.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1223 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:35 pm

DRW.mov wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:56 pm
KJones77 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:16 pm
So with Fassbinder's Lola coming back via the BRD trilogy upgrade, that should be confirmation that Criterion has a new StudioCanal deal, right?
Pretty sure the BRD titles are all held by the RWF Foundation, no? The reason the set went out of print initially was because Wellspring, who Criterion had initially licensed from, had lost them. None of them play on the Criterion Channel, nor on Filmstruck, with Studio Canal logos or branding. Lola is released by SC in the UK but that’s the only connection I can see. Does not mean they own it in the US as well.
I also remember KL Insider saying that he didn't think that StudioCanal had the rights to the BRD Trilogy.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1224 Post by Minkin » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:13 am

DRW.mov wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:56 pm
KJones77 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:16 pm
So with Fassbinder's Lola coming back via the BRD trilogy upgrade, that should be confirmation that Criterion has a new StudioCanal deal, right?
Pretty sure the BRD titles are all held by the RWF Foundation, no? The reason the set went out of print initially was because Wellspring, who Criterion had initially licensed from, had lost them. None of them play on the Criterion Channel, nor on Filmstruck, with Studio Canal logos or branding. Lola is released by SC in the UK but that’s the only connection I can see. Does not mean they own it in the US as well.
This is correct! The BRD Trilogy doesn't have anything to do with Studio Canal in the US.

There's quite a few films where SC doesn't have US rights:
Mulholland Dr
All those other films I'm blanking on, but my point has already long been proven
The Graduate

Wellspring had a bunch of Fassbinder films (including BRD); Criterion picked up (I think all of) those rights, and the boxset went OOP for awhile in anticipation of this upgrade / because the logos on the back were out of date. But someone even emailed Criterion and were told that the BRD Trilogy would be coming back at some point.

Studio Canal return (what they managed to actually license that Kino didn't get) should be happening sometime soon, there's too much confirmation to not think it isn't happening.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1225 Post by captveg » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:49 pm

KL Insider: "[Criterion] got some of their previously released titles and we got the rest."

So, this indicates that anything that Kino didn't get or that Lionsgate didn't retain themselves is eventually coming back to Criterion.

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