1035 Come and See

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OldBobbyPeru
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Re: 1035 Come and See

#76 Post by OldBobbyPeru » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:44 pm

For what it's worth, there's a Russian title card at the beginning that is translated as "Image and sound restoration by Mosfilm Cinema Concern." At the end, there are more restoration credits, all in Russian and untranslated. No mention of Dolby or stereo. The French version is the same.

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#77 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:49 pm

EddieLarkin wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:18 am
It does appear that many of the previous DVD releases featured 5.1 tracks, and the IMDb does list the film as having a Stereo track, but that's barely evidence of anything.
The 5.1 mix was just one of the terrible echoey upmixes that Ruscico did for a lot of their reissued titles at the time. There were even points when the English dub could be heard faintly in the background of the Russian track because they somehow mixed up one of the surround channels.

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#78 Post by black&huge » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:57 am

I just watched it for the first time ever but I have a question about the casting regarding a couple of characters:
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Was it the same actress playing Glasha and the woman near the end who is taken, gangraped and appears in front of Flyora with the whistle in her mouth?

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#79 Post by TheKieslowskiHaze » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:04 am

black&huge wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:57 am
I just watched it for the first time ever but I have a question about the casting regarding a couple of characters:
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Was it the same actress playing Glasha and the woman near the end who is taken, gangraped and appears in front of Flyora with the whistle in her mouth?
Yes.
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I saw different answers after googling it, but I always thought it WAS Glasha who had the whistle in her mouth, NOT the woman who was taken earlier.

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#80 Post by TMDaines » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:29 am

MichaelB wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:19 am
I gather new televisions are being introduced with a "Filmmaker" mode, which basically turns all the digital crap off in a single straightforward operation. Which really begs the question as to why all this had to be done setting per setting in the past.
Game mode does the same on a lot of TVs for years.

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#81 Post by nitin » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:33 am

It doesnt though, Game Mode usually introduces other presets that are not helpful for movie viewing.

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#82 Post by FrauBlucher » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:14 am


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Re: 1035 Come and See

#83 Post by Finch » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:13 pm

Love that typo. To be fair, that site is a con alright.

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#84 Post by ivuernis » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:22 pm

Finch wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:13 pm
Love that typo. To be fair, that site is a con alright.
Why do you consider it a con? (genuine question)

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#85 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:25 pm

ivuernis wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:22 pm
Finch wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:13 pm
Love that typo. To be fair, that site is a con alright.
Why do you consider it a con? (genuine question)
See our 27 (!) page thread here for starters

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Re: 1035 Come and See

#86 Post by Fresca » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:25 pm
ivuernis wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:22 pm
Finch wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:13 pm
Love that typo. To be fair, that site is a con alright.
Why do you consider it a con? (genuine question)
See our 27 (!) page thread here for starters
Why can't I access this forum?

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tenia
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Re: 1035 Come and See

#87 Post by tenia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:11 am

OldBobbyPeru wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:54 pm
I noticed that the French track didn't seem to have any big differences in the left and right channels to indicate a stereo program. There's left, right, center and LFE, but the stereo playback meters always move completely in tandem, no variance whatsoever like you would see in a normal stereo source. Indeed, I muted the left and right channels, and there wasn't much difference.
So, it appears to me that the French disc did use a mono track that they extrapolated to a 3.1 mix. The French soundtrack shows no evidence of being anything but a mono track spread across the LCR soundstage.
Having checked that too, I can confirm these findings. The center channel sounds like it has the exact same content than the Left and Right channels, but louder than them. So basically, it's a 1.0 track with a faint L&R spread, plus lower frequencies being supported by the .1 channel. There are no panning effects on the L&R channels, but also seemingly no specific info that aren't on the center channel.

I've checked too the movie and restoration's on-disc credits, and there is no mention about Dolby Stereo nor any detail about the sound restoration.
The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:49 pm
The 5.1 mix was just one of the terrible echoey upmixes that Ruscico did for a lot of their reissued titles at the time. There were even points when the English dub could be heard faintly in the background of the Russian track because they somehow mixed up one of the surround channels.
Thanks for these. This made me wonder how the 5.1 remix sounded like and thought it might be that bad. Glad to know for sure now and not regret its absence.

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