Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

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Re: Derek Jarman Volume 1: 1976-1986

#51 Post by Big Ben » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:51 am

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I cannot think that Jarman, as wonderful as he is has many people fighting over the rights to his works. There's no more fitting institution to release his materials than the British Film Institute.
You could make exactly the same argument about Walerian Borowczyk, but good luck putting together a box set of his post-1975 features!

It doesn't need multiple people "fighting over the rights to his works" - all it needs is one person (or company) to be sitting on them, often having licensed them out to someone else already. Sometimes concurrent sub-licensing deals can be pulled off, usually with a quid pro quo along the lines of it being a box-set exclusive, but more often than not these things just don't turn out to be contractually feasible, either because the rightsholder is unwilling to relinquish the title at all or because it's simply too expensive.
Thank you for the clarification. It just strikes me as something that someone wouldn't exactly want to sit on seeing as the BFI would have more reach (At least by my estimation.).

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#52 Post by MichaelB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:48 am

A quick update: Glitterbug will now definitely be included in volume 2, and that hopefully won't be the only pleasant surprise between now and the revelation of the full specs - but they obviously can't confirm anything else until everything's been formally signed on the dotted line.

But I'll keep you posted.

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#53 Post by RobertB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:46 pm

Thank you for the Glitterbug news. That's great! Edward II looks acceptable from Film Movement judging from Beaver (and region free). So it's not the end of the world that BFI couldn't include it.

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#54 Post by MichaelB » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:02 am

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Thank you for the Glitterbug news. That's great! Edward II looks acceptable from Film Movement judging from Beaver (and region free). So it's not the end of the world if the BFI ultimately can't include it.
I re-edited your post so that it more accurately reflects what I actually said.

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#55 Post by zedz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:57 pm

Great non-news, Michael! I shall keep my fingers crossed.

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#56 Post by MichaelB » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:52 am

There’ll be a formal announcement soon, but I’m delighted to be able to confirm (with permission) that Volume 2 will now be a six-disc set, with Edward II on one of the discs.

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#57 Post by zedz » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:13 pm

MichaelB wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:52 am
There’ll be a formal announcement soon, but I’m delighted to be able to confirm (with permission) that Volume 2 will now be a six-disc set, with Edward II on one of the discs.
Merry Christmas!

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#58 Post by Big Ben » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:14 pm

Wonderful news! I look forward to owning a copy!

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#59 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:35 am

A complete list of all the extras in volume 2:
Dead Cat (1989, 20 mins): Derek Jarman and his friend and collaborator Genesis P-Orridge both feature in this startling surrealist films in which a young man is terrorised and humiliated, later engaging in a mechanised, industrial sexual encounter;
Isle of Sheppey (1984, 7 mins): edited highlights from a VHS video shot on a location-hunting expedition, cameraman Derek Jarman chats to writer and cultural historian Jon Savage;
Depuis le jour: excerpt from Aria (1987, 5 mins): Derek Jarman’s sequence from the anthology film Aria;
Depuis le jour audio commentary by producer Don Boyd;
Remembering Derek Jarman (2014, 13 mins);
James Mackay Remembers The Last of England (2019, 14 mins);
Don Boyd Remembers The Last of England and Aria (2019, 16 mins);
Homemade Stuff and Wild Ideas: Simon Fisher Turner on Derek Jarman (2019, 16 mins): the musician and composer looks back on his long and unconventional involvement with Derek Jarman’s art;
Another Derek: Jarman’s Life Away From the Limelight (2019, 5 mins): interview with artist filmmaker John Scarlett-Davis;
An Odd Morality (2019, 4 mins): interview with Lee Drysdale;
Another World for Ourselves (2019, 9 mins): director John Maybury remembers meeting Jarman;
David Lewis Remembers Dead Cat (2019, 15 mins);
• Audio commentary on The Last of England with James Mackay, Christopher Hughes, Christopher Hobbs and Simon Fisher Turner;
Books By My Bedside: Derek Jarman (1989, 25 mins);
Derek Jarman in Conversation with Simon Field (1989, 32 mins);
Requiem for Jarman (2008, 37 mins): recollections on the making of War Requiem;
Don Boyd Remembers War Requiem (2019, 38 mins);
John Maybury Remembers War Requiem (2019, 8 mins);
The Nature of Super 8 (2019, 8 mins);
Caravaggio Was Accidental (2019, 10 mins): Simon Fisher Turner remembers his first feature soundtrack for Derek Jarman;
Before the Last (2019, 15 mins): James Mackay recalls working with Derek Jarman on The Angelic Conversation and Imagining October;
Derek Jarman Presents (2019, 27 mins): John Maybury remembers the Super 8 filmmaking scene;
• Audio commentary on War Requiem with Don Boyd;
Derek’s Shoot in Dungeness (1990, 6 mins);
The Wanderer (1991, 30 mins): experimental film by David Lewis based on the Anglo-Saxon poem of the same name;
Kiss 25 Goodbye (1991, 7 mins): documents, in bold experimental fashion, the 1991 OutRage! ‘kiss-in’ protest at Bow Street police station;
Clause and Effect (1988, 19 mins): showing the gay community uniting against homophobic forces and the government around the issue of Clause 28;
Orange Juice (1984, 41 mins): Derek Jarman’s location shoot for the promo for ‘What Presence?!’ by post-punk band Orange Juice who were fronted by Edwyn Collins;
Shooting the Hunter (2015, 5 mins);
James Mackay Remembers The Garden (2019, 15 mins);
Anything Can Happen (2019, 11 mins): Richard Heslop on working with Derek Jarman;
David Lewis Remembers The Garden (2019, 15 mins);
The Other Great Masterpiece (2019, 6 mins): John Maybury considers Jarman’s enthusiasm for gardening;
Life with Derek: Simon Fisher Turner’s Recordings (2018, 44 mins): The composer’s collage of audio clips recorded during his adventures with Derek Jarman and friends;
Derek’s Edward (2009, 24 mins): the making of Edward II;
Ostia (1987, 27 mins): Jarman embodies Pier Paolo Pasolini in this ambitious student film imagining the last hours of the Italian director’s life;
Ostia audio commentary;
The Clearing (1993, 7 mins): short film by Alex Bistikas starring Derek Jarman and Keith Collins;
The Extended Derek Jarman Interview (1991, 70 mins): Colin McCabe discuses films and filmmaking with Derek Jarman;
Cut/Action (2019, 8 mins): Simon Fisher Turner provides the music and narration for this video essay;
David Lewis Remembers Edward II (2019, 4 mins);
The Same Spirit (2019, 6 mins): Don Boyd remembers Jarman’s later years;
Truly Beautiful (2019, 19 mins): interview with award-winning costumer designer Sandy Powell;
Derek Jarman in Conversation with Colin McCabe (1991, 97 mins, audio only);
Karl Johnson on Wittgenstein (2007, 9 mins);
Tilda Swinton on Wittgenstein and Derek Jarman (2007, 10 mins);
Tariq Ali on Producing Wittgenstein (2007, 9 mins);
Wittgenstein: Behind the Scenes (1993, 22 mins);
Wittgenstein: An Introduction (2007, 4 mins);
Face to Face: Derek Jarman (1993, 41 mins): Derek Jarman interviewed by Jeremy Isaacs;
Producer Tariq Ali on Wittgenstein (2014, 7 mins);
Jarmanalia with Simon Fisher Turner (2019, 17 mins);
Films Made By A Painter (2019, 5 mins): James Mackay reflects on Jarman’s distinctive style as a filmmaker;
21st Century Nuns (1994, 10 mins);
Delphinium: A Childhood Portrait of Derek Jarman (2009, 13 mins);
James Mackay Remembers Blue (2019, 15 mins);
Simon Fisher Turner Remembers Blue (2019, 8 mins);
David Lewis Remembers Blue (2019, 13 mins);
Hard to Imagine (2019, 8 mins): John Maybury recalls Jarman’s journey towards Blue;
After the Garden (2019, 10 mins): Richard Heslop remembers Jarman’s later days;
Total Magic (2019, 6 mins): production designer Christopher Hobbs looks back upon Jarman’s fascination with occult imagery;
After Neutron (2019, 8 mins): interview with Lee Drysdale;
The Best Mentor (2019, 9 mins): John Scarlett-Davis recalls Jarman’s latter days and reflects uponhis artistic legacy;
Glitterbug and Beyond (2019, 7 mins): James Mackay remembers the production of Glitterbug
David Lewis Remembers Glitterbug (2019, 7 mins);
Bliss (1991, 40 mins, audio);
• Trailers;
• An assortment of image galleries including rare stills and promotional materials from all of the included feature films

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#60 Post by dda1996a » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:49 am

How is the box going to fit all of that on the back cover?

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#61 Post by swo17 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:01 am

It might require multiple columns--this will be very interesting

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#62 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:46 am

Look forward to this receiving 4/5 stars for extras from Blu-ray.com

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#63 Post by tenia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:54 am

Consider yourself lucky, it's the BFI, Arrow or Eureka might not even get a 2.5/5 with that.

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#64 Post by Jean-Luc Garbo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:48 pm

Wow, what a tremendous treasure here! I'd completely forgotten he'd make so many shorts so that will quite interesting to watch. I'm much more familiar with this phase of Jarman's career so I've been waiting to see what would surface but this is quite beyond my expectations. I've owned the Zeitgeist box since it was released but I'm really glad the producers took this effort to speak to so many collaborators anew. I'm definitely buying this one as soon as I can.

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#65 Post by swo17 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:57 pm

Still a lot of early shorts missing though--enough to make up a separate release?

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#66 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:01 pm

What a motherlode of riches! I can't wait for zedz to be a dissenting voice because Lee Drysdale only gets a 4 minute slot

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#67 Post by Adam Grikepelis » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:08 pm

swo17 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:57 pm
Still a lot of early shorts missing though--enough to make up a separate release?
That would be wonderful. With Jarman especially, the absence of his many short films has left a noticeable gap.

Despite that, the above list feels like Mum & Dad went away for the weekend, and the box set producer decided to have a party!

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#68 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:10 pm

As far as I'm aware, many of the missing items are missing thanks to music rights complications.

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#69 Post by zedz » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:24 pm

NABOB OF NOWHERE wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:01 pm
What a motherlode of riches! I can't wait for zedz to be a dissenting voice because Lee Drysdale only gets a 4 minute slot
4 + 8, I believe. Since I don't think he had much to do with this phase of Jarman's career, I'll regard this as a victory lap.

That's a mind-boggling package. There are probably rivals in terms of running time, but can anybody think of another release that's had that many discrete extras (the vast majority of which were, I assume, created / commissioned specifcally for this set)?

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#70 Post by zedz » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pm

MichaelB wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:10 pm
As far as I'm aware, many of the missing items are missing thanks to music rights complications.
There's an entire second career of music videos that will probably never be compiled, though his 'The Queen Is Dead' suite was released on the deluxe edition of that album recently.

Until now, I had no idea he'd directed the video for 'What Presence?!' (which must have been one of the first Jarman films I saw, probably the second after Marianne Faithfull's 'Ballad of Lucy Jordan' video.)

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#71 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:41 pm

That set sounds wonderful! As a taster here is the Depuis le jour segment of Aria. And that Face to Face interview is very moving.
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#72 Post by senseabove » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:55 pm

zedz wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pm
MichaelB wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:10 pm
As far as I'm aware, many of the missing items are missing thanks to music rights complications.
There's an entire second career of music videos that will probably never be compiled, though his 'The Queen Is Dead' suite was released on the deluxe edition of that album recently.

Until now, I had no idea he'd directed the video for 'What Presence?!' (which must have been one of the first Jarman films I saw, probably the second after Marianne Faithfull's 'Ballad of Lucy Jordan' video.)
I didn't know he'd done an OJ video either, not that I've explored too much of Jarman's music videography, but seeing that extra led me to watch it this morning...




I'm curious what the source and work done for Blue is. I imagine there was some interesting discussion about how to present it, what restoration to do, etc? Especially given the poor presentation it seems to have had in previous digital home releases... I vaguely remember a friend who wrote on Jarman in my MA program talking about how Jarman was interested in film's variability, the natural wear and tear of screenings, and how those effects interact with vision. But maybe we'd all just read too much phenomenology...

EDIT: I see this was discussed a little bit in a thread about Blue specifically: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5387&start=25

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Re: Derek Jarman Volumes 1-2: 1976-1994

#73 Post by DeprongMori » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:16 pm

Here’s Derek Jarman’s first music promo video — three songs from Marianne Faithfull’s album Broken English. The songs are “Witches’ Song”, “The Ballad of Lucy Jordan”, and “Broken English”.

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