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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1226 Post by nolanoe » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:33 am

soundchaser wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:28 pm
I watched it the other night if you’re looking for an idea on how the restoration came out. It is extraordinarily teal/yellow. The detail is stunning, but the color scheme is basically a disaster. The trailer is not misleading.
It's what I expected after watching that "brown-on-brown" 35mm version a while back.

As for Rivette's writing, I came across a book that contains his unrealized script PHOENIX - it's sadly in french, and as mine is rather shoddy, I fear I have to wait for an english release. Though if anybody is aware what the script is about, I'd love to hear a summary.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1227 Post by Stefan Andersson » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:21 pm

I Googled for Rivette and "Phenix" and found this:

Rivette worked on the film in Summer, 1973, but it was too expensive to produce:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Rivette

"Rivette was also undeniably drawn to the theatrical world of the diva. Prior to conceptualizing Scènes de la vie parallèle, he had envisioned a film entitled Phénix that was to have focused on a reclusive actress who lived in a grand Paris theatre, a role intended for Jeanne Moreau. In his discussion of the film with Hélène Frappat, Rivette recalls: “Phénix came after Out... I had this idea of Sarah Bernhardt meeting the Phantom of the Opera, and immediately I thought of Jeanne Moreau.” (Phénix est venu après Out... j’ai eu cette idée de Sarah Bernhardt rencontrant Le Fantôme de l’Opéra, et aussitôt j’ai pensé à Jeanne Moreau.)29 In collaboration with Eduardo de Gregorio and Suzanne Schiffmann, Rivette drafted the scenario for Phénix, setting forth the story set in the late nineteenth century of a diva named Deborah who he described as “an actress, famous, venerated, and already even a bit mythical, in the image of those legends of the theatre, which for us are evoked by the names Sarah Bernhardt or Eleonora Duse.” (actrice, célebrée, prestigieuse, et déjà même un peu légendaire, à l’image de ces ‘monstres sacrés’ qu’évoquent, pour nous, les noms de Sarah Bernhardt ou Eleonora Duse.)30 Rivette was never able to acquire the funding he required to proceed with his diva film; however, certain qualities of Rivette’s phantom goddesses in Duelle recall those of the diva, who in her finest moments, according to Dalle Vacche, involves “a certain kind of ineffable spirituality, a ritualistic otherness, and an intuitive aura about invisible things.” 31 Sun and moon goddesses in Duelle borrow the diva’s imperious, aristocratic demeanour, her whimsical and at times extravagant dress style, and her superfluous costume changes."

See: http://www.thecine-files.com/wp-content ... format.pdf

A diva surrounded by doubles, admirers and a ghostly lady in white:
https://next.liberation.fr/culture/2002 ... oir_397544


Rivette on Out 1 and Celine and Julie Go Boating:
https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sig ... go-boating
The "Phenix" script is briefly mentioned (contains a film within the film):
"I think that Phenix, the script I wrote with Eduardo de Gregorio after Out 1 and haven't been able to film yet, is an attempt to do something halfway between Murnau and Renoir."

"Phenix", with Juliet Berto, was too expensive to produce:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/rivette/ok/phantomint.html - site dedicated to Rivette

Jonathan Rosenbaum on Out 1 and Celine and Julie Go Boating:
https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sig ... go-boating

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1228 Post by furbicide » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:24 pm

I was alerted to this excellent news on Facebook:
Mary Wiles wrote:On behalf of Les Films du Veilleur and my dear friend Véronique Manniez-Rivette, I take great pleasure in announcing [translation from French in brackets]:

"Ce mardi 8 janvier 2019, jour de saint Lucien,
Avec leurs bons vœux pour cette nouvelle année,
LES FILMS DU VEILLEUR
a la joie de vous annoncer l’arrivée de « L’Amour fou » au sein
de son modeste - mais néanmoins fabuleux - catalogue.
[Les Films du Veilleur takes great pleasure in announcing the appearance of "L'Amour fou" within its modest-but nonetheless fabulous--catalogue!!]
Au programme de cette année:
[The following restorations will be featured on the programme this year:]
« L’Amour fou »,
« Haut Bas fragile » et « Secret Défense »
L’édition DVD/Blu-Ray de Jeanne la Pucelle, les batailles / les prisons
et
L’édition Blu-ray, la réédition DVD, de « La Bande des quatre »,
« La Belle Noiseuse »,
« Haut Bas Fragile »,
« Secret Défense »
au bon soin des éditions POTEMKINE"
And in the comments on the post:
Mary Wiles wrote:I will simply quote Veronique Manniez-Rivette's response to me about subtitles: "À ma connaissance, tous les films de Jacques en circulation possèdent des copies avec sous-titres anglais. Tous les films numérisés en disposent. Il doit exister une copie VOSTA de « L’Amour fou » en 35 mm." So, in effect, we can expect English subtitles.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1229 Post by soundchaser » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:32 pm

Oh yes, please. I'll re-buy all of these day 1 if that subtitles comment is true (and probably L'amour fou even if it isn't). Are these the Cohen restorations?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1230 Post by senseabove » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:56 pm

Wonderful news! Having just watched Out 1 over the break, I'm wanting to work my way through other Rivette and I've been trying to hunt down Haut Bas Fragile based on what I've been reading about his other works, but can't even find an SD source.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1231 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:21 pm

I think there's a Japanese DVD and def fanmade English subs circulating for whatever the source is. It and Secret Defense are among his best, so it's nice that someone's finally getting around to more of his good films

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1232 Post by soundchaser » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:38 pm

Gang of Four is no slouch either - I think it's my second-favorite after HBF. Honestly, though, there's not a bad film in this list. I don't like Jeanne as much as the others, but it's still well worth a viewing.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1233 Post by senseabove » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:56 pm

Thanks for the JP DVD heads up, but now that I know a BD is forthcoming, however far off, I'll probably wait for that, or a film or free option in the meantime. I'm just surprised I can't even find it through less-than-legal sources! Maybe I should order it, though—clicking buy would probably make the local cinematheque instantly program it.

And I didn't even notice Gang of Four was there because of the way it's spaced!

I assume this was posted to someone's personal FB account, not a publicly linkable post?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1234 Post by furbicide » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:01 pm

Yeah, personal account but the post is publicly available. Wiles is apparently a friend of Jacques' widow.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1235 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:03 pm

soundchaser wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:38 pm
Gang of Four is no slouch either - I think it's my second-favorite after HBF. Honestly, though, there's not a bad film in this list. I don't like Jeanne as much as the others, but it's still well worth a viewing.
I completely missed that one in the list (EDIT: And I see I wasn't the only one)! Nice, this will take care of all the Rivette I need on Blu-ray

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1236 Post by senseabove » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:09 pm

furbicide wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:01 pm
Yeah, personal account but the post is publicly available. Wiles is apparently a friend of Jacques' widow.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater
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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1237 Post by furbicide » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:10 pm

Right, sorry about that. Maybe I could see it because I'm Facebook friends with some of the people tagged in the post. :oops: Anyway, I've copied and pasted the full text of it.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1238 Post by senseabove » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:14 pm

furbicide wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:10 pm
Right, sorry about that. Maybe I could see it because I'm Facebook friends with some of the people tagged in the post. :oops: Anyway, I've copied and pasted the full text of it.
All good, and thanks for that :) I look forward to more official news from Potemkine!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1239 Post by Michael Kerpan » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:15 pm

Awesome news. Love all these films!

Gang of Four was the second Rivette I saw (and first I bought on DVD because it starred Bulle Ogier -- and was available after I saw my first Rivette, Va Savoir).

I just requested permission to join the Rivette group on FB. ;-)

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1240 Post by justeleblanc » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:55 pm

So just to sum up this news... Potemkine will be releasing a number of newly restored Rivette titles onto Blu ray, including the very rare L'Amour fou. Should this then be moved to the Potemkine thread? And are there any other links at the moment other than the facebook page?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1241 Post by furbicide » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:47 pm

No other corroboration that I can find so far (and I looked pretty hard at the time!). My impression is that L'amour fou is only getting a remastered theatrical/festival run (perhaps with an eye to a blu-ray release down the track) alongside Up Down Fragile and Secret défense and that the latter two as well as La Belle Noiseuse, Gang of Four and the two parts of Jeanne la Pucelle are all getting DVD + Blu-ray releases in 2019 (I couldn't quite work out why Jeanne la Pucelle is on a different line in Mary's post).

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1242 Post by nolanoe » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:10 am

Very, VERY happy to read these news!!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1243 Post by Calvin » Sat May 11, 2019 7:17 pm

In response to a comment on DVDBeaver's facebook post about The Nun, Adrian Martin has said that L'amour fou is 'forthcoming'.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1244 Post by ianthemovie » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:25 pm

Not sure if this is the right place to post this or if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but a stand-alone Blu-ray edition of Out 1 (with both cuts) is now available from Arrow. It's a great option for those (like myself) who aren't interested in owning other films from the Arrow box set and who also don't want to waste shelf space on the unwieldy dual-format edition from Carlotta. Affordable, too.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1245 Post by knives » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:28 pm

But the other films, well two of them, are better?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1246 Post by ianthemovie » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:45 pm

Not in my view :D But for those who feel that way, there's always the other Arrow box set with just Duelle, Noroit, and Merry Go Round!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1247 Post by Fiery Angel » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:21 pm

Both parts of Joan the Maid (4K restorations) are opening on August 2 at the Quad in NYC.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1248 Post by soundchaser » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:22 pm

Wish I could be in New York! And I hope this means some forward motion on the Blu-Rays (although I think the Gang of Four restoration premiered a few years ago? Wonder what the holdup is.)

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1249 Post by senseabove » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:39 pm

soundchaser wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:22 pm
(although I think the Gang of Four restoration premiered a few years ago? Wonder what the holdup is.)
That's unfortunate... I'm missing a screening near me in a few weeks, and I was consoling myself with the hope that the Cohen release would come out soon.

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