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 Post subject: Re: 61 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:54 am 
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Blu Ray 1080P upgrade for April 2013 - superb news! Well done MoC!!...


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 Post subject: Re: 61 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:57 am 
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If I remember rightly, the DVD sold surprisingly well, so it's not a huge surprise. Great news, though.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:20 am 
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So the new BD is going to have extra scenes that were previously cut? A world first?


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 Post subject: Re: 61 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:36 am 
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manicsounds wrote:
So the new BD is going to have extra scenes that were previously cut? A world first?


Where have they said that? Their Twitter claimed 'This release will include the same features/56-page-booklet as our previous DVD edition from a few years ago'.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:40 am 
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neilist wrote:
manicsounds wrote:
So the new BD is going to have extra scenes that were previously cut? A world first?


Where have they said that? Their Twitter claimed 'This release will include the same features/56-page-booklet as our previous DVD edition from a few years ago'.


On their FB page:

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LA NOTTE [THE NIGHT]
One of the masterworks of 1960s art cinema and one of the very finest by Italian maestro Michelangelo Antonioni, starring Marcello Mastroianni and Jeanne Moreau – upgraded in a brand new 1080p presentation in the film's original 1.66:1 aspect ratio and with previously censored sequences restored for the first time. Released in a Blu-ray edition; worldwide Blu-ray première.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:36 am 
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Those scenes were on the MoC DVD... What has changed, apart from the release format, is the cover, which now adapts the original US release artwork, an image on the golf course the morning after... In reality the exclusive modernist clubhouse was the setting that MA used for the all night party in the film...


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:42 pm 
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Wasn't there talk of a Criterion BD being delayed because of problems with the elements? Seems like those problems have been solved.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:52 pm 

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Wonderful news!


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:24 pm 

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Will it be region free, or is too early to tell?


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:35 pm 
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Given the Italian source, I'd assume Region B unless otherwise confirmed.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:43 pm 
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Any chance of the commentary on the Madman Australian disc being ported over? It would make the upgrade to Blu even sweeter.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:57 am 
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I do a nonspecialist blog for the elusive "common reader." Here are a few thoughts on La notte.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:44 am 
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Amazon have notified that this is pushed back to 20th May...


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:38 am 
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According to their Facebook page, it will be released on August 25th.

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Unfortunately I have another change of release date to report. Due to unforeseen circumstances LA NOTTE will now be released on 25 August


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:02 am 
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Hah...may be we will see at least CC announcing the Trilogy before that.


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 Post subject: Re: 678 La notte
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:33 pm 
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Is is safe to assume that the MoC will also be the 4K restoration?


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 Post subject: Re: 678 La notte
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:46 pm 
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FrauBlucher wrote:
Is is safe to assume that the MoC will also be the 4K restoration?


"Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups." –Stanley Kubrick (and LA NOTTE was one of his favourite films).


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:01 pm 

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I might have to get both the MoC version for the original AR and the Criterion version for the expectedly cleaner image, then. How I hate doing that!


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:53 pm 
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From the MoC twitter:
MoC wrote:
Just to clarify and update, our new Blu-ray edition of Antonioni's LA NOTTE will be 1.85, and has updated on the site. The new master is *slightly* more masked at the very top, but greatly expands the picture info to the left and right compared to the 1.66, i.e., 1.85 here not a case of matting cropping off picture detail that would have otherwise been visible at top and bottom of the old 1.66.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:26 pm 
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From earlier in the thread:
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MoC final encode is 1.66:1 anamorphic. After reviewing the materials and analysing everything closely, there was no other option without losing key pieces of frame information.
With both the Criterion and the new MoC edition being 1.85, has something definitive arisen showing that this is the proper AR?


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:58 pm 
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As the MoC twitter message explains, this new resto reveals a lot more image on the left and right than the one previously used for the DVD. Likely 1.85:1 has always been the accepted ratio, but when working from a source missing vital side information, 1.66:1 was probably decided as more appropriate to retain the correct top and bottom line.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:31 pm 
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It's probably worth stressing that MoC (and possibly Criterion too) wouldn't have had access to 35mm materials - they'd have been working from masters created by others. So it's easy to see why they made the decisions they did, based on what they had to hand at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:34 pm 
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The hoary old story that no-one's mentioned yet is that European films were apparently shown in Europe in "European widescreen" 1.66:1, and in America in "American widescreen" 1.85:1 due to how respective cinemas/projectors/screens were set up on each continent. This is why European sourced OAR has often been 1.66, and US editions have been 1.85. Both being "OAR" in their respective countries.

Seeing as the film is Italian, and was displayed on release in its homeland and around Europe in 1.66, I'd argue that 1.66 is the most accurate OAR – unless there was some other information which trumped that...?

The Criterion L'AVVENTURA DVD has always looked too tight to me (and, from memory, it's not even 1.85:1, it's 1.77:1)


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:16 pm 
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Yes, it is too tight (As is the Criterion) and I think it's fairly plain Antonioni was sufficiently enamoured of Widescreen and its expressive possibilities to "prefer" 1.85 even over and above 1.77, let alone 1.66. He is after all one of the great mise en scene directors, like Preminger, another widescreen specialist.

I never though the 1.66 was "wrong" but I also don't think the 1.85 is "wrong for La Notte, notwithstanding Moreau's tits.

OF course as I've raised the question elsewhere, what on earth is this biz that the new scan has "far more" picture info on the sides? IS this from a previously unknown O-neg? I mean this as a serious question.


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 Post subject: Re: 61 / BD 47 La notte
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:23 pm 
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david hare wrote:
what on earth is this biz that the new scan has "far more" picture info on the sides? IS this from a previously unknown O-neg? I mean this as a serious question.

Is it possible that the telecine operator on the old transfer just got a little crazy with the zooming?


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