1267 Sorcerer

[flyonthewall2983]

The surround mix in this case is given preference because it was overseen by the director for this release. The stereo is probably what was just on previous editions, maybe going back to theatrical release.

I don’t believe there was an alternate score or a version without TD’s music. That happened to them later when they worked with Ridley Scott on Legend. Since I have yet to see it I am not sure which one is considered the alternate, between theirs and Jerry Goldsmith’s more traditional score.

[CSM126]

what they call an alternate "2.0" soundtrack; is the soundtrack in 2.0 ?
I don't remember if for this movie, they did a soundtrack without Tangerine Dream (don't get me wrong; the Tangerine Dream soundtrack is amazing)

It’s the same soundtrack mixed in 2.0 instead of 5.1 (which is evidently the default)

[sabbath]

The "5.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack approved by director William Friedkin" is probably the one he tinkered with when the Blu-ray came out. There were controversies over his choices back then, especially the gunshot/backfire effect he added in the last shot. I can imagine Criterion decided to respect the late Mr. Friedkin's will by including it as the main audio, while providing the original theatrical audio as the "Alternate 2.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack."

[sabbath]

Sorcerer (1977) - Original Stereo vs. 5.1 Remix

[MichaelB]

The surround mix in this case is given preference because it was overseen by the director for this release. The stereo is probably what was just on previous editions, maybe going back to theatrical release.

I don’t believe there was an alternate score or a version without TD’s music. That happened to them later when they worked with Ridley Scott on Legend. Since I have yet to see it I am not sure which one is considered the alternate, between theirs and Jerry Goldsmith’s more traditional score.

Jerry Goldsmith is the original - Tangerine Dream was added for the film's US release.

As far as I'm aware they were always locked on for Sorcerer. In fact, Friedkin said that, had he discovered them early enough, he'd have asked them to score The Exorcist too.

[Orlac]

Also, this really should’ve included a piece on Tangerine Dream’s music. It ushered in a whole new phase of their career and changed Hollywood scores

It's one of those scores I first heard in a kung fu film, ENTER THE GAME OF DEATH, which also samples my all-time favourite film score, KING KONG by John Barry, and Marvin Hamlisch's awesome Bond '77.

[beamish14]

Also, this really should’ve included a piece on Tangerine Dream’s music. It ushered in a whole new phase of their career and changed Hollywood scores

It's one of those scores I first heard in a kung fu film, ENTER THE GAME OF DEATH, which also samples my all-time favourite film score, KING KONG by John Barry, and Marvin Hamlisch's awesome Bond '77.

“Betrayal”, the theme from the film, was also used in the trailer for Walter Hill’s The Warriors and Sidney Poitier’s Ghost Dad

[Stefan Andersson]

Detailed description of the Jim Clark/international version:
https://sorcerer1977.wordpress.com/2013 ... -universe/

[flyonthewall2983]

As far as I'm aware they were always locked on for Sorcerer. In fact, Friedkin said that, had he discovered them early enough, he'd have asked them to score The Exorcist too.

He was hip to electronic and rock music when most guys his age probably weren’t. I read somewhere he cut the car chase in French Connection to Santana, and more famously used the opening theme of side one to Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells.

More interestingly to me he was an unwitting catalyst to Peter Gabriel leaving Genesis. Friedkin had read the sleevenote of the band’s first live album, taken from some of Gabriel’s onstage banter, already established at the time as a more theatrical group. He invited Gabriel to Hollywood to I guess just spitball stuff, it came to nothing and Friedkin backed off when he had heard it caused some tension because the band was underway in recording The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.

I have read more books on the band then him at this point but that has been more or less the narrative as to the beginning of the split, that became further complicated by personal events and later lingering tension, resentment or worse towards the split directions they felt things were going in. Rest is history.

[nicolas]

what they call an alternate "2.0" soundtrack; is the soundtrack in 2.0 ?
I don't remember if for this movie, they did a soundtrack without Tangerine Dream (don't get me wrong; the Tangerine Dream soundtrack is amazing)

It’s the same soundtrack mixed in 2.0 instead of 5.1 (which is evidently the default)

The 2.0 is now confirmed to be the original mix according to Criterion, who sent this out to a BR user:

Our release features two soundtracks - the original 1977 2.0 surround soundtrack and the 2013 5.1 surround remix, both of which were approved by director William Friedkin.