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Re: Kino

#3326 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:58 am

And again, the explanation as to why they had to stretch the image makes absolutely no sense. There's cropping at the bottom of the screen, and giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'll pretend that was somehow unavoidable and that it was inherent in the film element used (again, the original 16mm OCN is presumed lost). BUT STILL...why the hell couldn't they have just left it un-stretched, or, if the stretching was inherent in the film element, squish it down to something that at least would feel correct to someone who isn't familiar with the film?

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Re: Kino

#3327 Post by ianthemovie » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:34 pm

Agreed. I'm truly puzzled as to how Haynes could give his blessing to this; regardless of what circumstances they may have been under due to missing elements, etc., there's no excuse for the stretching which looks awful.

I'm still curious to know whether the film was originally shot in widescreen, 4:3, or a mix of the two. The compositions on the Lorber DVD, which is all framed for 4:3, actually look correct to me.

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Re: Kino

#3328 Post by _shadow_ » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:57 pm

ianthemovie wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:21 am
That first shot of the teacher is the one that really rankles. I don't see how anyone could look at that and not notice that it looks terrible.

Now I'm curious to know what aspect ratio(s) this film was actually composed for. Was all of it shot for 4:3 or only the "Hero" scenes (with the other scenes shot for widescreen)? I could see Haynes playing with switching aspect ratios for each of the different stories. It's odd that, at least judging from the screengrabs, the distortion only seems to have affected "Hero."
The reason the squeezed shots appear only in "Hero" is that they are the only time these ID burn-ins appear, which obviously were not placed for a crop to widescreen. The squeeze is only applied to the shots with the burn-ins - when the same interview subjects appear elsewhere, those shots are cropped without the squeeze applied.

Overall, it plays fine in 4x3 - it would be interesting to know how Maryse Alberti feels about this treatement of her cinematography.

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Re: Kino

#3329 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:58 pm

I just noticed that Kino no longer lists a Blu-ray for Leos Carax's Lovers on the Bridge, just a DVD (which is currently 50% off at $15). I checked around and noticed that the Blu-ray has either been pulled or listed as "out of stock." I emailed Kino and they confirmed that it's out-of-print and they don't expect to press anymore copies. Bummer.

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#3330 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:33 pm

That sucks, I wonder if the other Carax films' rights are at risk of lapsing too.. Though it could just be a Miramax thing, what with all the recent wieldings of the company over the last few years

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#3331 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:40 pm

Possible - from the pictures I've seen, Lovers on the Bridge still has a Miramax logo on the case, so the deal must've been different. FWIW, Mauvais Sang is only $12.99 right now. I honestly remember getting that and Boy Meets Girl through Kino for close to $10 each not that long ago...not sure if I remember that correctly, but those discs do look great, FWIW.

Also, it's kind of nutty that Lovers on the Bridge never had a French BD release. There is a Japanese BD, but there's no English titles FYI.

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#3332 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:54 pm

I agree that they all look great, and I'm glad I bought Lovers on the Bridge at a non-discount price a while back. It's possible that it's been on sale since, but I haven't seen it on the sale pages. Hopefully this means another boutique company usurped the rights- it's one of the greatest films of the 90s

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Re: Kino

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Re: Kino

#3334 Post by brundlefly » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:29 pm

New Bill Morrison feature in theaters 9/22, on blu 11/23. (Trailer)
During the summer of 2016, a fishing boat off the shores of Iceland made a most curious catch: four reels of 35mm film, seemingly of Soviet provenance. Unlike the film find explored in Bill Morrison’s Dawson City: Frozen Time, it turned out this discovery wasn’t a lost work of major importance, but an incomplete print of a popular comedy starring beloved Russian actor Mihail Žarov. Does that mean it has no value? Morrison thought not. To him, the heavily water-damaged print, and the way it surfaced, could be seen as a fitting reflection on the life of Žarov, who loved this role so much that he even co-directed a sequel to it. Morrison uses the story as a jumping off point for his latest meditation on cinema’s past, offering a journey into Soviet history and film accompanied by a gorgeous score by Pulitzer and Grammy-winning composer David Lang.

Blu-ray Extras Include:

Three short films by Bill Morrison: Buried News (2021, 12 minutes), let me come in (2021, 11 minutes), Sunken Films (2020, 11 minutes)

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Re: Kino

#3335 Post by swo17 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:59 am

hearthesilence wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:14 pm
Glowingwabbit wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:08 pm
R. Emmet Sweeney tweeted about a 2-disc collection of Ken Jacobs' films. It says volume 1 on it as well. Pretty exciting as I don't believe his work has gotten any US release before (besides some anthology series perhaps). The cover is also posted in the tweet: https://twitter.com/r_emmet/status/1388 ... 30628?s=20

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Oh nice! I never expected to see this anytime soon (if ever). I've seen a few at Anthology, but will definitely be picking this up.
Has anyone else gone through this set? I think it's a treasure. Some notes on a few of the films that were new to me:

Blonde Cobra
This is a funny one, because apparently it was included in an edition of 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die, so loads of people who are not the target audience have disparaging things to say about it online. It's a Jack Smith film, so likely unwatchable to many, but if you know what you're getting into it has a certain...charm? There are some clever if impossible-to-remember instructions at the start of the film about providing your own soundtrack at different moments with a talk radio program. I randomly chose the first news footage that came up on YouTube, which happened to be CNN coverage of the Jan 6 insurrection. The film's subjects did not seem too amused by it.

The Sky Socialist
Its companion piece A Primer on Sky Socialism is an amazing feat of 3D photography. This is totally different but feels in a way like Jacobs' magnum opus (though not his only one) and is presented here as finally complete after decades of tinkering. It's hard to say what's so striking about it. I don't think it's particularly trying to be, which helps. It simply captures a certain time and place that Jacobs clearly holds dear with unassuming but indelible images, sporadically punctuated with musical accompaniment that feels alternately off-putting and effulgent. (Note: These first two films are eligible for the 1960s list. :-" )

The Georgetown Loop
Nicolas Provost and Bill Morrison have made several films like this, where two mirror images flow in and out of each other to form new kaleidoscopic worlds that are vibrantly alive at the epicenter. This one, following a rickety old train ride in all sorts of directions is among the better examples of the form. At the risk of outing myself as a dad, I could watch it on a loop.

Capitalism: Child Labor/Slavery
Two fascinating experiments in attempting to create a 3D illusion in frame by oscillating between two similar 2D images while employing various tricks to always keep things moving. And there is of course further depth added by the choice of photographic subjects and their thematic resonance.

Movie That Invites Pausing
SpoilerShow
I would have put money on this being a Star Spangled to Death exercise in information overload. Instead, it's a purely visual exploration of some kind of honeycomb-shaped object, shown intermittently through the camera's blinking eye. Pretty much every time I tried to pause this I got a black screen so I don't get that angle of it, but I very much enjoyed the visual sensation of just sitting and watching it straight through.
Bring on Volume 2!

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Re: Kino

#3336 Post by DeprongMori » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:31 am

The Georgetown Loop
Nicolas Provost and Bill Morrison have made several films like this, where two mirror images flow in and out of each other to form new kaleidoscopic worlds that are vibrantly alive at the epicenter. This one, following a rickety old train ride in all sorts of directions is among the better examples of the form. At the risk of outing myself as a dad, I could watch it on a loop.
I had seen this at a film festival at its original release, but haven’t been able to recall the title or filmmaker’s name since. Thanks for finally resolving that nagging question.

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Re: Kino

#3337 Post by swo17 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:43 pm

Happy to help!

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#3338 Post by Nw_jahrles » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:53 pm

Kino to launch free streaming service “Kino Cult” beginning October 1st.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/kino ... w4vrs437Qw

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#3339 Post by fdm » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:37 pm

Wonder if it will provide support for dolby digital audio (or better).

Come to think of it, I wonder whether Arrow's does as well.

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Re: Kino

#3340 Post by Peter McM » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:31 am

There's been some talk lately about certain titles missing booklets that may or may not exist. In anticipation of getting Juliette Binoche's latest, Who You Think I Am, next month--I pulled Elles (2012) off my shelf to give another spin; my copy did not come with any insert. Does anyone reading this have this title, and if so, does yours have a booklet or any other material that might be of interest?

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Re: Kino

#3341 Post by L.A. » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:55 am


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#3342 Post by Calvin » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:17 am

Kino have confirmed to me that they have the rights to at least 4 Glauber Rocha films and that "they'll most likely be released in theaters first, followed by a home video release."

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Re: Kino

#3343 Post by captveg » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:34 pm

Kino Classics has announced Lubitsch's Three Women (1924) for 1/18/22 via a 4K restoration from the George Eastman Museum, with the cover art proclaiming "The Ernst Lubitsch Collection", so other early Lubitsch films are apparently also on the horizon.

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Re: Kino

#3344 Post by justeleblanc » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:49 am

Aside from the Berlin titles (which Kino might also be adding to this collection), it seems that SO THIS IS PARIS and ROSITA would be likely additions given their recent restorations.

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#3345 Post by Calvin » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:30 pm

Lady Windermere's Fan has also had a new restoration recently

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#3346 Post by captveg » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:33 pm

Hopefully they are also working on The Student Prince in Old Heidelberg (1927) for when it goes PD in 2023.

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Re: Kino

#3347 Post by domino harvey » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:35 pm

justeleblanc wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:49 am
SO THIS IS PARIS
This is on HBO Max, it might be with Warners?

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Re: Kino

#3348 Post by justeleblanc » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:46 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:35 pm
justeleblanc wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:49 am
SO THIS IS PARIS
This is on HBO Max, it might be with Warners?
That was my thought initially, but THREE WOMEN was also Warners. I might be wrong, though.

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#3349 Post by captveg » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:47 pm

As a 1926 release, So This Is Paris will go into the public domain in January.

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#3350 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:02 pm

The problem with So This Is Paris is that the restoration appears to have been done by WB themselves using a nitrate source from the Turner archives, and the score was commissioned by TCM so presumably WB owns that too. Legally speaking Kino could still use the restoration (though they might have trouble finding a copy of sufficient quality without WB's cooperation) and commission their own score, but that seems unlikely. The Library of Congress apparently has a very good 35mm print, so perhaps Kino could arrange to use that. Ideally WB would release it themselves, but we all know how they treat their silents.

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